Formula 1 General Chat & Discussion

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12.04.2013, 19:40

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Result of the 2nd practice session from today :

Felipe Massa sets the pace in second practice :
Felipe Massa put Ferrari on top in the second free practice session for the Chinese Grand Prix at Shanghai.
Runaway morning pacesetter Nico Rosberg had to settle for fourth this time, as Kimi Raikkonen and Fernando Alonso took second and third places. Initially Rosberg and Mercedes resumed their commanding morning form by setting the initial pace, while team-mate Lewis Hamilton was next up. The soft tyre runs started early, with Mark Webber switching from the medium rubber just 20 minutes in. He used his new Pirellis to outpace Rosberg by 0.6s and claim first place, although the German soon retaliated with his own soft-tyre dash and got back in front. But the second half of the afternoon was all about Ferrari and Massa.
A 1m35.340s from Massa on the soft tyres put him in front, and that was where he stayed.
More impressively, he maintained his speed better than most on his subsequent long run with medium tyres, on a day when radio complaints about graining were perhaps even more prevalent than usual.
Rosberg was eventually pushed down to fourth place as Raikkonen emerged as Massa's closest rival, getting within 0.152s. Fernando Alonso increased Ferrari's satisfaction with third place, albeit 0.4s off his team-mate.
Rosberg and Webber completed the top five, while Jenson Button showed encouraging form for McLaren again in sixth, ahead of Hamilton. Sebastian Vettel was only 10th, behind Force India duo Adrian Sutil and Paul di Resta. Sutil's session included a half-spin at Turn 8 in which his car arrived at the corner already broadside.
The German managed to stop the Force India on the asphalt run-off, unlike Sergio Perez in a near-identical incident minutes earlier. In that case the McLaren made it all the way over the gravel trap and lightly nudged the barriers before crawling back to the pits. Perez, who had crashed in the pit entry at the end of practice one, later made it back out and was 11th. His team-mate Button did not have a trouble-free afternoon either, pitting with a delaminated left-front tyre following a huge lock-up into the hairpin.
In the backmarker pack, Jules Bianchi impressed again as an early soft tyre run temporarily got him as high as 11th. He still ended up back in his habitual 19th place.
His Marussia team-mate Max Chilton had a horrible afternoon. The Briton stopped on track with oil pressure problems during the first runs, later rejoined and then had to park out on the circuit again.
Caterham's Giedo van der Garde was the other man to have adventures, catching a high-speed spin into Turn 1 before it could become a full rotation.

1. Felipe Massa : Ferrari - 1:35.340 -
2. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus - 1:35.492 + 0.152
3. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari - 1:35.755 + 0.415
4. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP - 1:35.819 + 0.479
5. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing - 1:36.092 + 0.752
6. Jenson Button : McLaren - 1:36.432 + 1.092
7. Lewis Hamilton : Mercedes GP - 1:36.496 + 1.156
8. Adrian Sutil : Force India - 1:36.514 + 1.174
9. Paul di Resta : Force India - 1:36.595 + 1.255
10. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing - 1:36.791 + 1.451
11. Sergio Perez : McLaren - 1:36.940 + 1.600
12. Romain Grosjean : Lotus - 1:36.963 + 1.623
13. Esteban Gutierrez : Sauber - 1:37.103 + 1.763
14. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso - 1:37.206 + 1.866
15. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso - 1:38.127 + 2.787
16. Valtteri Bottas : Williams - 1:38.185 + 2.845
17. Nico Hulkenberg : Sauber - 1:38.211 + 2.871
18. Pastor Maldonado : Williams - 1:38.276 + 2.936
19. Jules Bianchi : Marussia F1 Team - 1:38.725 + 3.385
20. Giedo van der Garde : Caterham - 1:39.271 + 3.931
21. Charles Pic : Caterham - 1:39.814 + 4.474
22. Max Chilton : Marussia F1 Team - 1:43.227 + 7.887


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Shaky-Schumi

12.04.2013, 07:27

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Result of the 1st practice session of the GP of China :

Nico Rosberg and Mercedes dominate practice one :
Nico Rosberg led team-mate Lewis Hamilton in a Mercedes one-two in opening Chinese Grand Prix practice, as the squad returned to the scene of its first modern-era Formula 1 victory one year ago.
Warring Red Bull duo Mark Webber and Sebastian Vettel were next up, but a second off the Mercedes' pace.
Mercedes took charge on the last lighter-fuel runs going into the final half-hour of the session.
Rosberg initially put in a 1m37.872s to knock Felipe Massa's Ferrari off the top spot.
This mark was then pipped by Webber, who went 0.2s faster just a minute later.
But Rosberg had more speed to come. Despite signs of tyre graining and being eight laps into a stint, he unleashed a 1m36.904s, backed off for a lap, then delivered the best lap of the morning with a 1m36.717s.
Mercedes then appeared to have superior pace on the race stint simulations in the final half-hour, although fuel load variations inevitably skew this picture. Hamilton was ultimately 0.454s down on his team-mate, but 0.487s clear of Webber. Three tenths of a second split the two Red Bulls in third and fourth.
Jenson Button had been among the first to set a flying lap, albeit over half an hour into the session, and kept his McLaren near the top for a long while. He ended up sixth, between the Ferraris of Fernando Alonso and Massa. Button's team-mate Sergio Perez provided a bizarre end to the session when he crashed in the pitlane entry gravel trap, replicating the infamous incident that ended McLaren predecessor Hamilton's 2007 Chinese GP. Adrian Sutil also had a stint in first place before ending up eighth, two places in front of Force India team-mate Adrian Sutil. Romain Grosjean's Lotus split them. The Frenchman's team-mate Kimi Raikkonen provided the session's other main incident when he ran wide at Turn 9 and spun back across the track. Raikkonen resumed without damage. Sauber rookie Esteban Gutierrez also had an excursion, exploring the gravel at Turn 1. Ex-HRT third driver Ma Qing Hua made his Caterham debut in Charles Pic's car at his home event. The GP2 racer was last, 1.5s off team-mate Giedo van der Garde

1. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP - 1:36.717 -
2. Lewis Hamilton : Mercedes GP - 1:37.171 + 0.454
3. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing - 1:37.658 + 0.941
4. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing - 1:37.942 + 1.225
5. Fernando : Alonso Ferrari - 1:37.965 + 1.248
6. Jenson Button : McLaren - 1:38.069 + 1.352
7. Felipe Massa : Ferrari - 1:38.095 + 1.378
8. Adrian Sutil : Force India - 1:38.125 + 1.408
9. Romain Grosjean : Lotus - 1:38.398 + 1.681
10. Paul di Resta : Force India - 1:38.561 + 1.844
11. Kimi Räikkönen ; Lotus - 1:38.790 + 2.073
12. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso - 1:39.057 + 2.340
13. Pastor Maldonado : Williams - 1:39.158 + 2.441
14. Nico Hulkenberg : Sauber - 1:39.180 + 2.463
15. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso - 1:39.336 + 2.619
16. Sergio Perez : McLaren - 1:39.360 + 2.643
17. Valtteri Bottas : Williams - 1:39.392 + 2.675
18. Esteban Gutierrez : Sauber - 1:40.032 + 3.315
19. Jules Bianchi : Marussia F1 Team - 1:41.966 + 5.249
20. Max Chilton : Marussia F1 Team - 1:42.056 + 5.339
21. Giedo van der Garde : Caterham - 1:42.083 + 5.366
22. Qing Hua Ma : Caterham - 1:43.545 + 6.828


Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

11.04.2013, 23:48

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Let me advise you about a very good movie that is coming out soon:

Rush



the story is about the two legendary drivers James Hunt and Niki Lauda on the
rush years of their career.
I don't know the details but it looks great !
Hunt and Lauda... that was yet in the golden era of the Formula 1.

Recommended to all lovers of Formula 1 'cause it seems very well done

p.s. I knew that one day this story made ​​it a film : And Niki for me is a real Mith !!

11.04.2013, 23:13

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Red Bull said yesterday :There should NO team orders be given......

But I am doubtfull
schubert.

11.04.2013, 22:27

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Chinese GP: the winners (last 6 editions)
2007 Raikkonen – Ferrari
2008 Hamilton – Mc Laren Mercedes
2009 Vettel – Red Bull Renault
2010 Button – Mc Laren Mercedes
2011 Hamilton – Mc Laren Mercedes
2012 Rosberg – Mercedes
In the last 4 editions only 5 pilots on podium: Hamilton and Button(3 times) Vettel, Webber and Rosberg(2 times)
the last podium of a Ferrari driver was in 2008. Here in 2006 Schumacher won his last Grand Prix.
Pole position: (last 3 editions)
2010 Vettel – Red Bull Renault – pole time 1m 34.558
2011 Vettel – Red Bull Renault – pole time 1m 33.706
2012 Rosberg – Mercedes – pole time 1m 35.121
weather forecast: partly cloudy for the whole race weekend but no chance of rain.
Two drs zones with two different detection point: start-finish straight and the very long straight after turn 13,
Season 2013: Team battle(Force India) Sutil vs Di Resta: 1-1 after 2 races
Average position in qualifying: Sutil(10,5°) and Di Resta(12°)
Hamilton. Grid position: 3° at Melbourne and 4° at Sepang. Average position in qualifying(3,5°)

11.04.2013, 21:34

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last year gp china podium
1 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 56 1:36:26.929
2 3 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 56 +20.6 secs
3 4 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 56 +26.0 secs

11.04.2013, 21:29

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.....some news
alonso said that he want to be part of the ferrari team till the end of his careerCoolBig Grin

10.04.2013, 21:09

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Shanghai circuit(Chinese GP) – First edition 2004
This circuit is similar to others designed by Tilke. There are 16 corners of varying types and two long straights. The downforce level is medium-high. Tyre: Medium(white stripe) and Soft (yellow stripe). The same combination as last year although of course all the tyres are softer and faster in this season. The track surface is smooth and not much abrasive therefore the strategy will be on two or three pit stops. Key points for tyres are the curves 1 and 13, which leads into a very long straight. The Shanghai Gran Prix is the third race of the 2013 season and Sebastian Vettel is already the leader of the championship, but due to his behavior in Sepang has fueled a lot of controversy. The three-time world champion has passed his team mate Mark Webber despite the Red Bull’s orders were " keep the positions". Team orders have always existed in the history of Formula One, because the races are an individual competition, but there is also the F1 constructors' championship that is worth a lot of money. Anyway in recent weeks, many experts have discussed the problem of the tyres. As request by FIA and FOM(Ecclestone), Pirelli has created tires that have an extremely high wear and some drivers complain because they cannot push their cars to the maximum. Now the most important thing is: “take care of the tires and do not destroy them, too soon”. The race distance is about 300 km and two pit stops mean 3 sets of tyres in every GP. The result: these tyres have a life of about 100 km. Of course doing three pit stops, tyres life becomes even shorter(75 km). Then the question is the following: money thrown to the wind and technology useless or thanks to these tyres we have races more unpredictable and less boring?
kind regards

10.04.2013, 19:03

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A little reminder for this weekend Cool :

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Course info characteristics :
Shanghai International Circuit : output low
Route length : 5.451 km
full throttle : 63 percent
Race distance : 56 laps = 305.066 km
Tire wear medium
Lap record : Michael Schumacher (Ferrari) 1:32,238 minutes (2004 )
Brake wear : low
Gasoline consumption : medium

Friday :
1st Practice session : 04:00 - 05:30 cet
2nd Practice session :| 08:00 - 09:30 cet
Saturday:
3rd Practice session : 05:00 - 06:00 cet
Qualifying : 08:00 cet
Sunday :
Race : 09:00 cet

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

29.03.2013, 17:28

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Bill Aston
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29.03.2013, 00:00

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f1 birthdays
29/03/1961 gary brabham former australian f1 driver
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29/03/1974 marc genè spanish f1 driver
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28.03.2013, 21:45

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news
Sebastian Vettel has personally presented his apologies to the staff of the Red Bull team for disobeying the order of the last Grand Prix of Malaysia, when a dozen laps passed his team-mate Mark Webber who at that time was in the head. Earlier this week, the German driver has visited the team at the site of Milton Keynes in the UK in the next race in China, taking the opportunity to reiterate his mea culpa .

27.03.2013, 21:39

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i don't like teams orders (also ferrari done in the past)Confused
f1 will be ruined by the businessSad

27.03.2013, 00:00

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f1 birthdays
27/03/1971 david coulthard former scottish f1 driver
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26.03.2013, 19:10

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Didier Pironi
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Born : 26th March 1952 - Died : 23rd August 1987