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Result of the 1st practice session :

Felipe Massa tops opening practice session :
Ferrari kicked off its Bahrain Grand Prix weekend with a one-two for Felipe Massa and Fernando Alonso in Friday morning practice. Hot on the heels of Alonso's commanding victory for the team in China, Ferrari continued to underline that its 2013 Formula 1 car is a frontrunner on merit. In a typically cagey opening session on the dusty Sakhir track, all the frontrunners waited long into practice before actually going for flying laps, and Ferrari held off longest of all. Nearly an hour had elapsed by the time Alonso and Massa showed their hand, and they immediately went quickest, as first Alonso did a 1m34.564s, then Massa beat it by 0.077 seconds with a 1m34.487s a few minutes later. They duly stayed on top as everyone, as usual, focused on heavy fuel and tyre endurance for the remaining half an hour. Nico Rosberg had been fastest for Mercedes prior to the Ferraris' laps, and retained third, 0.134s off the pace. Sebastian Vettel was the leading Red Bull in fourth, three places ahead of team-mate Mark Webber. Force India had a strong session. Adrian Sutil spent a while on top around the halfway point, and although he later slipped to eighth, his team-mate Paul di Resta made it up to fifth place, ahead of Jenson Button's McLaren. Lotus duo Kimi Raikkonen and Romain Grosjean completed the top 10. Lewis Hamilton was only 13th, 1.2s slower than team-mate Rosberg, but with no sign of drama at Mercedes, the disparity appeared due to differing programmes.
Heikki Kovalainen made his F1 return in 20th place. He ended up 0.6s slower than team-mate Charles Pic in Caterham's upgraded car as he settled in. Both were ahead of the Marussias. Rodolfo Gonzalez's GP weekend debut with Marussia was curtailed by a gearbox issue after seven laps. He brought up the rear of the timesheets, but was within 0.8s of race driver Max Chilton. Kovalainen and Gonzalez hand their cars back to Giedo van der Garde and Jules Bianchi respectively in the afternoon.

1. Felipe Massa : Ferrari - 1:34.487 -
2. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari - 1:34.564 + 0.077
3. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP - 1:34.621 + 0.134
4. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing - 1:34.790 + 0.303
5. Paul di Resta : Force India - 1:34.949 + 0.462
6. Jenson Button : McLaren - 1:35.069 + 0.582
7. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing - 1:35.101 + 0.614
8. Adrian Sutil : Force India - 1:35.119 + 0.632
9. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus - 1:35.345 + 0.858
10. Romain Grosjean : Lotus - 1:35.611 + 1.124
11. Sergio Perez : McLaren - 1:35.640 + 1.153
12. Valtteri Bottas : Williams - 1:35.783 + 1.296
13. Lewis Hamilton : Mercedes GP - 1:35.792 + 1.305
14. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso - 1:36.014 + 1.527
15. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso - 1:36.485 + 1.998
16. Pastor Maldonado : Williams - 1:36.498 + 2.011
17. Nico Hulkenberg : Sauber - 1:36.755 + 2.268
18. Esteban Gutierrez : Sauber - 1:37.214 + 2.727
19. Charles Pic : Caterham - 1:37.850 + 3.363
20. Heikki Kovalainen : Caterham - 1:38.401 + 3.914
21. Max Chilton : Marussia F1 Team - 1:39.445 + 4.958
22. Rodolfo Gonzalez : Marussia F1 Team - 1:40.215 + 5.728


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Shaky-Schumi

bahrain 2012 podium
Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 57 1:35:10.990
Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault 57 +3.3 secs
Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 57 +10.1 secs

Bahrain GP – Sakhir international circuit – First edition 2004
It was the first Gran Prix of F1 in the Middle East. Here it is important to have good traction and a well balanced car. There are four straights linked by slow corners with some fast corners mainly in the second sector. High temperatures, wind and sand will be the greatest challenges for pilots in Bahrain. After criticism for the high degradation of the soft tyres during last weekend, Pirelli have suddenly changed their tyre allocation for this GP. Instead of the soft tyre, as had been announced, it will be used: medium compound(white stripe) and of course hard compound(orange stripe). Last year there was a very different choice; (medium and soft). but probably the most used strategy (3 pit stop) will remain the same as last season. Pirelli tires have become protagonists of this Formula One anf during qualifying, teams are already studying best strategy for the race.
2010: the race was held on a different layout; the track was longer and slower.
2011: the race was canceled due to problems of public policy
so the only recent references on the same track, date back to last year's race.
2012: podium: 1° Vettel(Red Bull) – 2° Raikonnen(Lotus) – 3° Grosjean(Lotus)
Other pilots: Webber(4°) Rosberg(5°) Alonso(7°) Hamilton(8°) Massa(9°)
2012: qualifying Vettel pole position: 1.32.422 in front row also Hamilton: 1.32.520
Free Practice one: 1.33.572 Friday morning – FP two: 1:32.816 Friday afternoon
FP three: 1:33.254 (Saturday morning)
It is very unusual that lap time of FP3 is slower than lap time of FP2 because usually tracks become faster, session after session. But, last year, Friday night and Saturday morning, a strong wind brought a lot of sand on the track. In fact, a big risk here is not the rain but a slippery track and hazy conditions due to the sand storms.
Season 2013: Team battle(Marussia) Bianchi vs Chilton 3-0 after 3 races
Average position in qualifying: Bianchi (19°) Chilton (20.3°)
Riccardo: Grid position 14° at Melbourne 13° at Sepang and 7°at Shanghai. Average position in qualifying(11.3°)

A little reminder for this weekend :

Friday :
1st Practice session : 09:00 - 10:30 CET
2nd Practice session : 13:00 - 14:30 CET

Saturday :
3rd Practice session : 10:00 - 11:00 CET
Qualifying : 13:00 CET

Sunday :
Race : 14:00 CET

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Shaky-Schumi

I have forgotten since last sunday:
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VIVA LA FERARI!!!

P.S. "Ferari" is not a mistake, is the pronounce from Maranello.

News Update :

Eight drivers escape penalties for using DRS :
All eight drivers who were investigated after the Chinese Grand Prix for using DRS in an area where yellow flags were being shown have been cleared. Kimi Raikkonen, Sebastian Vettel, Jenson Button, Daniel Ricciardo, Romain Grosjean, Valtteri Bottas, Max Chilton and Mark Webber were all investigated following the race.
The stewards noted there were three “mitigating circumstances” for the infringements:
There was a delay of one minute from the display of the yellow flags until the message appeared on the official message system. The electronic marshalling system DRS disable function was not operational, so drivers were relying on team communications and information conveyed to them in the “Note to Teams” which was issued prior to the Race, resulting in a degree of confusion. The DRS use was on the main straight where a green light was displayed. Sebastian Vettel and Felipe Massa were given drive-through penalties for passing through a yellow flag zone while using DRS during last year’s Spanish Grand Prix.

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Shaky-Schumi

( that's it for today from me , i'm going to shut down my computer because i'm very sick at the moment , i've got a bad f**king headache ,i'm couching & sneezing like hell , i barely can keep my eyes open since saturday morning because of this all ,so i'm out of here and hopefully be fit again tomorrow for work and afterwards for being on this forum )

Bahrain International Circuit :

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Output : medium
Route length : 5.412 km
Full throttle : 60 percent
Race distance : 57 laps = 308.238 km
Tire wear : high
Lap record Michael Schumacher (Ferrari) 1:30,252 minutes
Brake wear: medium
Gasoline consumption : medium

Friday :
1st Practice session : 09:00 - 10:30 CET
2nd Practice session : 13:00 - 14:30 CET

Saturday :
3rd Practice session : 10:00 - 11:00 CET
Qualifying : 13:00 CET

Sunday :
Race : 14:00 CET

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Shaky-Schumi

News Update :

Webber given Bahrain grid penalty for hitting Vergne :
Mark Webber will lose three places on the grid of the Bahrain Grand Prix after stewards blamed him for his class with Toro Rosso's Jean-Eric Vergne in China. Webber made contact with Vergne when trying to pass the Frenchman for 12th position on lap 16 of the race. He confirmed his penalty to reporters as he left the stewards' office. The Australian said afterwards he was sure Vergne had left him room to pass, although the Toro Rosso driver denied knowing Webber was there.
"I think Mark could not have got through from where he tried and I'm not even sure if he was trying to pass me. Certainly I didn't even know he was there," said Vergne.
"Unfortunately, the impact put me into a spin and the incident damaged my floor. From then I lost a lot of downforce." Webber had already endured a nightmare weekend. The Australian had started the race from the pits after he had been excluded from qualifying for not having enough fuel in his car for scrutineering checks.
The Red Bull driver retired from the race after losing the rear left wheel following a pitstop.

Esteban Gutierrez punished for Adrian Sutil clash :
Esteban Gutierrez has been handed a five-place grid penalty for Bahrain after his crash during the Chinese Grand Prix. The Mexican Sauber driver outbraked himself five laps into the race and crashed into the back of Adrian Sutil's Force India. Rookie Gutierrez retired on the spot with a heavily damaged car, while Sutil managed to return to the pits but was also forced to retire due to the damage suffered.
"As I turned into the corner, I felt a hit from the rear and that was it. I think Gutierrez just braked late for the corner," said Sutil. Race stewards gave the Sauber driver a penalty for causing the accident, and he will drop five places on the grid next week in Bahrain. Gutierrez fully accepted that it was his mistake.
"I had Checo [Perez] fighting behind me, and I approached the corner too fast," he said.
"I was braking at the same place where I usually brake, however, I didn't anticipate the loss of downforce and the amount of speed I had.
"I tried my best to stop, but didn't succeed. It was definitely my fault, and I apologise to Adrian and to his team."

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Shaky-Schumi

Champions Standings after the GP of China :

Drivers :
01 Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull - 52
02 Kimi Raikkonen - Lotus - 49
03 Fernando Alonso - Ferrari - 43
04 Lewis Hamilton - Mercedes - 40
05 Felipe Massa - Ferrari - 30
06 Mark Webber - Red Bull - 26
07 Nico Rosberg - Mercedes - 12
08 Jenson Button - McLaren - 12
09 Romain Grosjean - Lotus - 11
10 Paul di Resta - Force India - 8
11 Daniel Ricciardo - Toro Rosso - 1
12 Adrian Sutil - Force India - 6
13 Nico Hulkenberg - Sauber - 5
14 Sergio Perez - McLaren - 2
15 Jean-Eric Vergne - Toro Rosso - 1

Teams :

01 Red Bull - 78
02 Ferrari - 73
03 Lotus - 60
04 Mercedes - 52
05 McLaren - 14
06 Force India - 14
07 Toro Rosso - 7
08 Sauber - 5
09 Caterham - 0
10 Marussia F1 Team - 0

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Shaky-Schumi

Result of a exciting race of the GP of China :

Alonso takes commanding victory for Ferrari :
Fernando Alonso gave Ferrari its first victory of the 2013 Formula 1 season as his tactic of starting on soft tyres proved the right one in a strategy-defined Chinese Grand Prix. Kimi Raikkonen and Lewis Hamilton used the same strategy to fill the podium, as Sebastian Vettel's tactics could only give him fourth place, just inches behind Hamilton in a thrilling finish. The race unfolded as two parallel contests between those who started on softs, briefly burst clear and then pitted early and dropped into traffic, and those who started on mediums, emerged up front, but would face soft tyre pain later. Alonso quickly thrust himself to the front of the first group. A slow start from Raikkonen meant the Ferraris were into second and third by Turn 1, and both Alonso and Felipe Massa overtook Hamilton on lap five as the Mercedes' soft tyres faded quicker.
Massa stayed out one lap longer than most on softs and subsequently faded out of the lead battle, while Alonso's speed at hacking through traffic on alternative strategies once he was on mediums gave him a clear advantage over everyone else on the same strategy. Vettel left his softs until the final five laps.
But by then, Alonso's strategy already looked better. The Ferrari's shorter stints meant Alonso caught Vettel on track on lap 42 on fresher tyres at a time when both had one more stop to go.
Alonso swiftly passed the Red Bull and cruised away, knowing Vettel would still have to take on softs.
While the Ferrari was out of reach, Vettel still had a shot at Raikkonen's Lotus and Hamilton's Mercedes, which had been battling all race. The champion caught his two rivals at a rate of three seconds per lap after his late pitstop and started the final lap with Hamilton in sight. The Mercedes hung on by just 0.2 seconds, with Raikkonen staying just far enough ahead to claim second. The Lotus was sporting a dramatic tear in its nose section after an early brush with the defensive Sergio Perez's McLaren. Jenson Button pulled off a two-stop strategy in the sister McLaren, allowing him to lead for a spell and finish fifth ahead of Massa.
Daniel Ricciardo converted his impressive qualifying result into seventh for Toro Rosso, despite an early front wing change. Paul di Resta and Romain Grosjean were eighth and ninth.
Nico Hulkenberg played a major role in the early stages. Running the same strategy as Vettel, he got ahead of the Red Bull early on and led as the pit tactics unfolded. A slow pitstop meant he lost out to Vettel, and Sauber's choice of a very short middle stint on softs did not pay off, leaving him 10th. Mark Webber's troubled weekend got even worse in the race. Clearing the soft tyres on lap one and instantly taking mediums gave him a shot at getting up with the leaders, but he smashed his front wing in a tangle with Jean-Eric Vergne's Toro Rosso then retired when his right rear wheel fell off after a subsequent pitstop for repairs. Nico Rosberg was troubled by an apparent suspension problem from the outset and retired his Mercedes soon after his second pitstop.
A host of drivers, including both Red Bull men, will be investigated for alleged DRS breaches after the race, although F1news understand that paddock-wide telemetry problems are the cause. Esteban Gutierrez could face sanction for ploughing into the back of Adrian Sutil early on, ending both their races. Sutil had earlier clashed with Force India team-mate di Resta.

1. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari - 1h36:26.945
2. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus - + 10.100
3. Lewis Hamilton : Mercedes GP - + 12.300
4. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing - + 12.500
5. Jenson Button : McLaren - + 35.200
6. Felipe Massa : Ferrari - + 40.800
7. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso - + 42.600
8. Paul di Resta : Force India - + 51.000
9. Romain Grosjean : Lotus - + 53.400
10. Nico Hulkenberg : Sauber - + 56.500
11. Sergio Perez : McLaren - + 1m03.800
12. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso - + 1m12.600
13. Valtteri Bottas : Williams - + 1m33.800
14. Pastor Maldonado : Williams - + 1m35.400
15. Jules Bianchi : Marussia F1 Team - + 1 lap
16. Charles Pic : Caterham - + 1 lap
17. Max Chilton : Marussia F1 Team - + 1 lap
18. Giedo van der Garde : Caterham - + 1 lap
Did Not Finish :
19. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP
20. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing
21. Adrian Sutil : Force India
22. Esteban Gutierrez : Sauber

Pistop Romain Grosjean : 3
Fastest Lap : Sebastian Vetttel -1:36.808
Bat.2 Teams : Massa / Rosberg
Grid.Pos. Vettel : 4

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Shaky-Schumi


Ps : The result just after the race counts for our game , the investigation will have no effect on our game !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The gas station didn't function well , it should have given to less petrol

Yes kyke50 , still for how long .........

schubert

schubert wrote:Webber putting back to the last place on the grid

Too less fuel

schubert

I wonder: why in Red Bull are always all the problems for Webber?

Webber putting back to the last place on the grid

Too less fuel

schubert

Result of the qualifying of the GP of China :

Hamilton grabs first pole with Mercedes :
Lewis Hamilton claimed his first pole position with Mercedes in a Chinese Grand Prix qualifying session dominated by tyre strategy. Kimi Raikkonen's Lotus will join Hamilton on the front row ahead of Fernando Alonso's Ferrari. Championship leader Sebastian Vettel chose not to set a time in Q3 and can start ninth on medium tyres, while most of those ahead must use the fragile softs for their first stint.
His Red Bull team-mate Mark Webber had a disastrous session, as a fuel pressure problem stranded him in Q2.
With the soft tyres only good for one flying lap and expected to quickly fade in the race, qualifying was all about rubber conservation. Q3 duly became a one-lap shootout in the final minute as all 10 contenders poured on the track at once at the last gasp. Raikkonen was first to take provisional pole with a 1m34.761s.
Several likely challengers failed to match that, but Hamilton came through on a 1m34.484s to give Mercedes pole at Shanghai for a second straight year. Alonso ended his run of being outqualified by Ferrari team-mate Felipe Massa as he took third, two places ahead of the Brazilian. Nico Rosberg split them in the second Mercedes. Romain Grosjean was sixth for Lotus, followed by Daniel Ricciardo.
The Australian was one of the stars of qualifying as he got Toro Rosso into Q3 for the first time this year, beating team-mate Jean-Eric Vergne by 0.9 seconds in Q2.
Jenson Button joined Vettel in opting for medium and did a slow lap for eighth, while Vettel and Sauber's Nico Hulkenberg chose not to do Q3 flying laps at all.Webber ended qualifying 14th after a fuel pressure problem forced him to park his car on the circuit in Q2. But the Australian fears he will ultimately end up at the back of the grid if the issue means his Red Bull cannot provide the mandatory fuel sample for the FIA.
Both Force Indias narrowly missed out on the top 10, with Paul di Resta just 0.029s off in 11th. Team-mate Adrian Sutil was behind Sergio Perez's McLaren in 13th. The tyre issue even neutered Q1, which did not feature any track action until halfway through. Toro Rosso attempted to get through on mediums, but had to make a late switch to softs as both drivers were at risk of missing the cut.
Vergne and Ricciardo's improvements meant Valtteri Bottas's Williams and Esteban Gutierrez's Sauber were the two midfield cars ousted. Jules Bianchi had been ahead of the Toro Rossos before they moved to softs, but had to settle for his usual 19th for Marussia, still comfortably faster than his back of the grid peers.

1. Lewis Hamilton : Mercedes GP - 1:34.484 -
2. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus - 1:34.761 + 0.277
3. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari - 1:34.788 + 0.304
4. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP - 1:34.861 + 0.377
5. Felipe Massa : Ferrari - 1:34.933 + 0.449
6. Romain Grosjean : Lotus - 1:35.364 + 0.880
7. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso - 1:35.998 + 1.514
8. Jenson Button : McLaren - 2:05.673 + 31.189
9. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing - not time set
10. Nico Hulkenberg Sauber geen tijd -

Q2
11. Paul di Resta : Force India - 1:36.287 + 1.803
12. Sergio Perez : McLaren - 1:36.314 + 1.830
13. Adrian Sutil : Force India - 1:36.405 + 1.921
14. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing - 1:36.679 + 2.195
15. Pastor Maldonado : Williams - 1:37.139 + 2.655
16. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso - 1:37.199 + 2.715
17. Valtteri Bottas : Williams - 1:37.769 + 3.285

Q1
18. Esteban Gutierrez : Sauber - 1:37.990 -
19. Jules Bianchi : Marussia F1 Team - 1:38.780 + 4.296
20. Max Chilton : Marussia F1 Team - 1:39.537 + 5.053
21. Charles Pic : Caterham - 1:39.614 + 5.130
22. Giedo van der Garde : Caterham - 1:39.660 + 5.176

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Shaky-Schumi

Result of the 3rd practice sesion :

Alonso keeps Ferrari on top :
Fernando Alonso and Felipe Massa kept Ferrari on top of the times in the final practice session for the Chinese Grand Prix. The Spaniard's best lap of 1m35.391s was still slower than the benchmark set by Massa in second practice on Friday. The Brazilian was second quickest on Saturday morning, over six tenths behind his team-mate.Lewis Hamilton finished third for Mercedes as team-mate Nico Rosberg had to settle for 14th position after being unable to set a time with the soft Pirelli tyres. World champion Sebastian Vettel outpaced Red Bull team-mate Mark Webber for the first time this weekend to finish in fourth position, right ahead of the Australian, who completed the top five. Force India's Adrian Sutil was sixth ahead of the first Lotus of Kimi Raikkonen, McLaren's Jenson Button and Sergio Perez and the Sauber of Nico Hulkenberg, who rounded up the top 10.
Caterham's Charles Pic and Giedo van der Garde were the first men to appear in the timesheets, the duo the only men to post a timed lap in the first 10 minutes of the session. Perez jumped to the top of the times nearly 20 minutes in, becoming the first driver from a top team to set a time. He was promptly outpaced by Romain Grosjean in the Lotus, the Frenchman relegated by team-mate Raikkonen just moments later. With a quarter of final practice gone, it was FP1 pacesetter Rosberg who moved to the top with the first 1m37s lap of the hour-long session. Team-mate Hamilton bettered his time three minutes later as Vettel went second quickest behind the Briton, both men still far from the leading times from Friday. Hamilton was first to move into the 1m36s at the half-hour mark, while Rosberg put the other Mercedes in second position ahead of Vettel.
Ferrari drivers Alonso and Massa waited until the second half of the session to complete their first timed laps, the Spaniard moving to fifth spot 28 minutes in with used medium tyres. Friday pacesetter Massa went sixth quickest with his first attempt seconds later. The soft tyres made their appearance with less than 20 minutes left, with Rosberg and Raikkonen the first of the frontrunners to try the yellow-marked rubber.
The German, however, aborted his first attempt and complained about excessive bottoming, returning to the pits without setting a time. His mechanics started working on the car immediately and he would not return to the track. Team-mate Hamilton also slowed down right after posting the quickest time in the first sector, also using soft tyres, but the Briton continued for another run. Although his first sector was not as strong as before, Hamilton posted the best time of the session with a lap of 1m36.065s which put him over a second clear of the rest of the field at the time. With most teams eager to save their soft tyres, the action was sparse as the session reached the final 10 minutes. Raikkonen jumped to second with eight minutes to go, but the Finn was still over half a second off Hamilton's pace. He was soon outpaced by Sutil, but the Mercedes driver's time was still out of reach. Most drivers finally jumped onto the circuit with five minutes left, Alonso setting the fastest time of the day with a 1m35.391s, still slower than Massa's best from Friday. The Brazilian moved to second ahead of Hamilton.

1. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari - 1:35.391 -
2. Felipe Massa : Ferrari 1:36.013 + 0.622
3. Lewis Hamilton : Mercedes GP - 1:36.065 + 0.674
4. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing - 1:36.286 + 0.895
5. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing - 1:36.420 + 1.029
6. Adrian Sutil : Force India - 1:36.549 + 1.158
7. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus - 1:36.605 + 1.214
8. Jenson Button : McLaren - 1:36.693 + 1.302
9. Sergio Perez : McLaren - 1:36.777 + 1.386
10. Nico Hulkenberg : Sauber - 1:36.853 + 1.462
11. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso - 1:37.072 + 1.681
12. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso - 1:37.205 + 1.814
13. Pastor Maldonado : Williams - 1:37.300 + 1.909
14. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP - 1:37.349 + 1.958
15. Valtteri Bottas : Williams - 1:37.457 + 2.066
16. Paul di Resta : Force India - 1:37.487 + 2.096
17. Esteban Gutierrez : Sauber - 1:37.740 + 2.349
18. Romain Grosjean : Lotus - 1:37.813 + 2.422
19. Jules Bianchi : Marussia F1 Team - 1:38.496 + 3.105
20. Charles Pic : Caterham - 1:38.821 + 3.430
21. Max Chilton : Marussia F1 Team - 1:39.627 + 4.236
22. Giedo van der Garde : Caterham - 1:39.652 + 4.261

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Shaky-Schumi