Formula 1 General Chat & Discussion

A little reminder :

brudgon wrote:Fri 10 May 2013
Practice 1 10:00 - 11:30
Practice 2 14:00 - 15:30

Sat 11 May 2013
Practice 3 11:00 - 12:00
Qualifying 14:00

Sun 12 May 2013
Race 14:00

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

F1 – this week end - Barcelona GP - some statistics:

Tomorrow: practice 1 and 2
Saturday 11 may : practice 3 and qualifying
Sunday 12 may: the race at 14.00

the winners (last 5 editions)
2008 Raikkonen – Ferrari
2009 Button – Brown Mercedes
2010 Webber – Red Bull Renault (2° place Alonso and 3° place Vettel)
2011 Vettel – Red Bull Renault (2° place Hamilton and 3° place Button)
2012 Maldonado – Williams Renault (2° place Alonso and 3° place Raikkonen)
- In previous years also one victory for Alonso and Massa.

Pole position: (last 3 editions)
2010 Webber – Red Bull Renault – pole time 1m 19.995
2011 Webber – Red Bull Renault – pole time 1m 20.981
2012 Maldonado – Mercedes – pole time 1m 22.285* (the best lap time was 1.21.707 (Hamilton) but was canceled for not having sufficient fuel onboard and so Lewis lost his pole position)
- Also 2 pole position for Raikkonen – quite strange Vettel and Hamilton: never in pole at Barcelona

Best flying laps at Barcelona, during the preseason tests only two months ago:
1 Nico Rosberg – Mercedes time: 1m20.130s (soft tyre) *
2. Fernando Alonso – Ferrari time: 1m20.494s (soft tyre) *
3. Lewis Hamilton – Mercedes time: 1m20.558s (soft tyre) *
* important: during this week end, soft tires will not be used

When is the next race, I wanna be sure not to miss it

Barcelona GP – Circuit de Catalunya - Montmelò
the Grand Prix of Spain has a good tradition in the history of F1. The first edition was held in 1951, but only from the end of the sixties becomes a regular event in the calendar. In the past various circuits (Jarama, Jerez and Montjuic) hosted the Spanish GP and since 1991 the circuit of Barcelona is the home of the event. All the drivers know very well this track because often hosts pre-season winter testing. During these twenty years, the track has not changed a lot. Personally I don't like the chicane inserted between the last two curves Europcar and New Holland; however, the layout is still quite good. Montmelò is a technical circuit with some interesting corners and an important test for the aerodynamics of the cars. Tyre: hard compound(orange stripe) and medium compound(white stripe) a very conservative choice because tyre wear is high: also brake demand and downforce level are high.
Now we have spectacular races, but in the past the Formula One was completely different and better for me.
today is 8th May and lots of old memories came to my mind.
Exactly 31 years ago, it was on saturday and there was the final qualifying session of the Belgium GP at Zolder. That afternoon I was not at my home and I heard on the radio that Villeneuve was at Lovanio’s hospital after a terrible crash. Gilles died that same evening, but I would remember two extraordinary victories of Gilles: Jarama 81 and Monaco 81 and his exploits. At Canadian Grand Prix, Gilles had damaged the front wing obscuring the most of his view, nevertheless he drove his Ferrari for many laps in heavy rain condition.
But above all is in the legend of formula One what happened at Dijon(French Grand Prix 1979). Arnoux(Renault) vs Villenueve(Ferrari) in the last three laps, wheel to wheel, side by side, in a series of passes. Breathtaking. I watch Formula One racing since 40 years but do not remember a duel as much exciting.
and how once: Forza Gil.

gp spain podium 2012
1 18 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 66 1:39:09.145
2 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 66 +3.1 secs
3 9 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault 66 +3.8 secs

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Happy Birthday Felipe !!!!!!!!! 25/04/1981

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FORMULA 1 GRAN PREMIO DE ESPAÑA 2013
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Fri 10 May 2013
Practice 1 10:00 - 11:30
Practice 2 14:00 - 15:30
Sat 11 May 2013
Practice 3 11:00 - 12:00
Qualifying 14:00
Sun 12 May 2013
Race 14:00

Championship Driver Standings :

1. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull - 77
2. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus - 67
3. Lewis Hamilton : Mercedes - 50
4. Fernando Alonso :Ferrari - 47
5. Mark Webber : Red Bull - 34
6. Felipe Massa : Ferrari - 30
7. Romain Grosjean : Lotus - 26
8. Paul di Resta : Force India - 20
9. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes - 14
10. Jenson Button : McLaren - 13
11. Sergio Perez : McLaren - 8
12. Adrian Sutil : Force India - 6
13. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso - 6
14. Nico Hülkenberg : Sauber - 5
15. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso - 1
16. Valtteri Bottas : Williams - 0
17. Pastor Maldonado : Williams - 0
18. Esteban Gutiérrez : Sauber - 0
19. Jules Bianchi : Marussia - 0
20. Charles Pic : Caterham - 0
21. Giedo van der Garde : Caterham - 0
22. Max Chilton : Marussia - 0

Championship Constructor Standings :

1. Infiniti Red Bull Racing - 111
2. Lotus F1 Team - 93
3. Scuderia Ferrari - 77
4. Mercedes AMG Petronas - 64
5. Sahara Force India - 26
6. Vodafone McLaren Mercedes - 21
7. Scuderia Toro Rosso - 7
8. Sauber F1 Team - 5
9. Williams F1 Team - 0
10. Marussia Racing - 0
11. Caterham F1 Team - 0


Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

Result of the Bahrain GP :

Vettel leaves action behind and wins for Red Bull :
Sebastian Vettel breezed to his second victory of the 2013 Formula 1 season in the Bahrain Grand Prix.
The world champion thrust his Red Bull to the front amid spectacular early dicing, then left the action behind.
In a repeat of the 2012 Sakhir podium, Lotus duo Kimi Raikkonen and Romain Grosjean made it through the field to second and third, the latter denying Paul di Resta a maiden F1 podium with just six laps to go.
Vettel was in a hurry to hit the front from the outset. He forced polesitter Nico Rosberg to defend heavily off the line, and although Fernando Alonso managed to get his Ferrari between them around the outside, Vettel surged back into second with a bold move at Turn 5. Vettel then pounced on Rosberg's Mercedes into Turn 4 on lap two, only to run wide. Next time around he made the move stick, and thereafter inched away towards an ever-more certain victory. Alonso was soon up to second but his DRS flap jammed open. He made an emergency pitstop to fix it, but the problem reoccurred. By lap nine, he was 19th, had made two pitstops and knew he would be without DRS all afternoon. With Alonso out of contention, the best of the rest battle became a contest between di Resta and Raikkonen, both two-stopping compared to most frontrunners' three.
Di Resta looked to be best-placed until his final stop, when Raikkonen vaulted him having stopped sooner.
Force India remained on course for third for a while, but Grosjean was looming. The three-stopping Frenchman saved his medium tyres for the final stint and was able to hunt down and pass di Resta, who had to settle for a career-best fourth. The rest of the top 10 featured wild racing all afternoon, with an abundance of side by side and wheel to wheel action as different strategies unfolded and different cars found pace at different junctures.
Lewis Hamilton crept forward after a low-key start and finally grabbed fifth. Sergio Perez produced by far his most combative performance for McLaren yet. He was embroiled in a long dice with team-mate Jenson Button and the fading Rosberg, which featured contact between the McLarens and anxious radio messages on more than one occasion. Despite losing a front wing endplate against his team-mate's car, Perez finished sixth, joining Hamilton in passing Mark Webber on the final lap. Webber had been a podium threat for a spell, before falling back on his final set of tyres. Alonso fought through to eighth despite his lack of DRS, with Rosberg and Button forced to four-stop and ending up ninth and 10th. Felipe Massa suffered two right rear punctures and was only 15th. He had also made contact with Adrian Sutil on lap one, causing a puncture for the Force India driver, who made it back up to 13th.

1. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing - 1h36.26.961
2. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus + 9.100
3. Romain Grosjean : Lotus + 19.500
4. Paul di Resta : Force India + 21.700
5. Lewis Hamilton : Mercedes GP + 35.200
6. Sergio Perez : McLaren + 35.900
7. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing + 37.200
8. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari + 37.500
9. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP + 41.100
10. Jenson Button : McLaren + 46.600
11. Pastor Maldonado : Williams + 1m06.400
12. Nico Hulkenberg : Sauber + 1m12.900
13. Adrian Sutil : Force India + 1m16.700
14. Valtteri Bottas : Williams + 1m21.500
15. Felipe Massa : Ferrari + 1m26.300
16. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso + 1 ronde
17. Charles Pic : Caterham + 1 lap
18. Esteban Gutierrez : Sauber + 1lap
19. Jules Bianchi : Marussia F1 Team + 1 lap
20. Max Chilton : Marussia F1 Team + 1 lap
21. Giedo van der Garde : Caterham + 2 laps
Did Not Finish :
22. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso

Fastest Lap : Sebastian Vettel - 1:36.961
Pitstop Felipe Massa : 4
Bat. 2 Teams : Raikkonen > Webber
Grid Pos. Nico Hulkenberg : 12th place

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

Result of the qualifying :

Nico Rosberg takes surprise pole for Mercedes :
Nico Rosberg claimed a shock pole position for Mercedes in Bahrain Grand Prix qualifying at Sakhir.
Mercedes had not looked like an outright frontrunner during practice, but Rosberg set a banker 1m32.4s lap at the start of Q3 and it proved impossible to beat. Sebastian Vettel got closest for Red Bull with a 1m32.584s, just ahead of Fernando Alonso's Ferrari. Rosberg then made his pole absolutely certain, improving to 1m32.330s to clinch the top spot by over 0.2 seconds. His team-mate Lewis Hamilton was 0.4s slower in fourth place. He will lose five places for having a gearbox change prior to the session.
Fifth position will also change post-session. Mark Webber took the spot for Red Bull, but faces a three-place penalty for his collision with Jean-Eric Vergne in China. Ferrari put Felipe Massa on hard tyres for Q3 and he took sixth place, followed by the Force Indias of Paul di Resta and Adrian Sutil. The latter only just made it into Q3 with a late charge. Friday pacesetter Kimi Raikkonen was only ninth in his Lotus.
McLaren was ecstatic to see Jenson Button reach Q3 against expectations with a last-gasp lap. The Briton chose not to do a flying lap in the pole shootout. The late Q2 improvements lik pushed Romain Grosjean's Lotus down to 11th. The Frenchman was back in the pits at the end of the segment and his first lap had not been good enough.The two Williams set exactly equal 1m34.425s laps in Q1, but Valtteri Bottas had got there first, so he made it to Q2 - where he took 15th - while Pastor Maldonado was left in 17th.
Esteban Gutierrez's troubles continued as he only managed 18th in qualifying, which will become last when his five-place penalty for crashing into Sutil in China is applied. There was a change in form at the back. Driving the upgraded Caterham, Charles Pic got his team ahead of Marussia for the first time in 2013, as he beat Jules Bianchi by a full 0.9s. Giedo van der Garde, in the older-spec Caterham, also outqualified a Marussia, pushing Max Chilton down to 22nd.

1. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP - 1:32.330 -
2. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing - 1:32.584 + 0.254
3. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari - 1:32.667 + 0.337
4. Lewis Hamilton : Mercedes GP - 1:32.762 + 0.432
5. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing - 1:33.078 + 0.748
6. Felipe Massa : Ferrari - 1:33.207 + 0.877
7. Paul di Resta : Force India - 1:33.235 + 0.905
8. Adrian Sutil : Force India - 1:33.246 + 0.916
9. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus - 1:33.327 + 0.997
10. Jenson Button : McLaren - no time set
Q2
11. Romain Grosjean : Lotus - 1:33.762 + 1.432
12. Sergio Perez : McLaren - 1:33.914 + 1.584
13. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso - 1:33.974 + 1.644
14. Nico Hulkenberg : Sauber - 1:33.976 + 1.646
15. Valtteri Bottas : Williams - 1:34.105 + 1.775
16. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso - 1:34.284 + 1.954
17. Pastor Maldonado : Williams - 1:34.425 + 2.095
Q1
18. Esteban Guiterrez : Sauber - 1:35.283 -
19. Charles Pic : Caterham - 1:34.730 + 2.400
20. Jules Bianchi : Marussia F1 Team - 1:36.178 + 3.848
21. Giedo van der Garde : Caterham - 1:36.304 + 3.974
22. Max Chilton : Marussia F1 Team - 1:36.476 + 4.146

Qual : 1:32.330
Pole : Nico Rosberg
Team Battle : Jules Bianchi > Max Chilton
Grid Position Daniel Ricciardo : 13th place


Because of the grid penalty's : Mark Webber will start on the 8th place
Lewis Hamilton will start on the 9th place
Esteban Guiterrez will start on the 22nd place

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

2013 FORMULA 1 GULF AIR BAHRAIN GRAND PRIX
qualifiyng results
1 9 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:33.364 1:32.867 1:32.330 14
2 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:33.327 1:32.746 1:32.584 12
3 3 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:32.878 1:33.316 1:32.667 11
4 10 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1:33.498 1:33.346 1:32.762 13
5 2 Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:33.966 1:33.098 1:33.078 13
6 4 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:33.780 1:33.358 1:33.207 13
7 14 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1:33.762 1:33.335 1:33.235 14
8 15 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:34.048 1:33.378 1:33.246 16
9 7 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault 1:33.827 1:33.146 1:33.327 13
10 5 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:34.071 1:33.702 11
11 8 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1:33.498 1:33.762 7
12 6 Sergio Perez McLaren-Mercedes 1:34.310 1:33.914 9
13 19 Daniel Ricciardo STR-Ferrari 1:34.120 1:33.974 14
14 11 Nico Hulkenberg Sauber-Ferrari 1:34.409 1:33.976 14
15 17 Valtteri Bottas Williams-Renault 1:34.425 1:34.105 13
16 18 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Ferrari 1:34.314 1:34.284 13
17 16 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1:34.425 6
18 12 Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 1:34.730 9
19 20 Charles Pic Caterham-Renault 1:35.283 6
20 22 Jules Bianchi Marussia-Cosworth 1:36.178 6
21 21 Giedo van der Garde Caterham-Renault 1:36.304 7
22 23 Max Chilton Marussia-Cosworth 1:36.476 6
Q1 107% Time 1:39.379

Result of the 3rd practice session that just ended :

Fernando Alonso beats Sebastian Vettel in final practice :
Fernando Alonso put Ferrari back on top in the final free practice session ahead of Bahrain Grand Prix qualifying. The Chinese GP winner produced a 1m33.247s lap on the softer medium tyres seven minutes from the end, and it proved unbeatable. Earlier in the session Alonso had spun wildly out of Turn 2 while on a hard tyre run. He stopped just short of the gravel trap and was able to continue. Sebastian Vettel looked best-placed to depose Alonso at the end, as everyone else fell shot on their medium runs. The world champion's Red Bull had been on top for most of the session, and waited until the final seconds before heading out on medium Pirellis. Vettel came across traffic halfway round his lap, prompting an angry gesture at Charles Pic. But even before he encountered the Caterham, Vettel's sector times were already shy of Alonso's.
Running very wide over the rough Turn 12 kerbs then stymied Vettel's next lap and he failed to improve on the 1m33.348s he had set on mediums, 0.101 seconds off Alonso's pace. Mark Webber completed the top three in the second Red Bull. Lotus duo Kimi Raikkonen and early pacesetter Romain Grosjean were fourth and sixth, sandwiching Lewis Hamilton. The Mercedes had a dramatic end to its session when Hamilton suffered an apparent left rear tyre failure on his slowing-down lap. Force India stayed with the frontrunners as Adrian Sutil and Paul di Resta took seventh and eighth, followed by Nico Rosberg's Mercedes and Nico Hulkenberg's Sauber. Felipe Massa, fastest on Friday morning, was only 11th for Ferrari, ahead of the McLarens.
At the back, Marussia's Max Chilton had to sit out the latter part of the morning due to a KERS problem.

1. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari - 1:33.247 -
2. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing - 1:33.348 + 0.101
3. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing - 1:33.380 + 0.133
4. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus - 1:33.446 + 0.199
5. Lewis Hamilton : Mercedes GP - 1:33.455 + 0.208
6. Romain Grosjean : Lotus - 1:33.464 + 0.217
7. Adrian Sutil : Force India - 1:33.596 + 0.349
8. Paul di Resta : Force India - 1:33.700 + 0.453
9. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP - 1:33.764 + 0.517
10. Nico Hulkenberg : Sauber - 1:33.922 + 0.675
11. Felipe Massa : Ferrari - 1:33.949 + 0.702
12. Jenson Button : McLaren - 1:34.117 + 0.870
13. Sergio Perez : McLaren - 1:34.282 + 1.035
14. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso - 1:34.577 + 1.330
15. Valtteri Bottas : Williams - 1:34.611 + 1.364
16. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso - 1:34.678 + 1.431
17. Pastor Maldonado : Williams - 1:34.833 + 1.586
18. Charles Pic : Caterham - 1:35.816 + 2.569
19. Jules Bianchi : Marussia F1 Team - 1:36.731 + 3.484
20. Giedo van der Garde : Caterham - 1:36.939 + 3.692
21. Max Chilton : Marussia F1 Team - 1:37.630 + 4.383
22. Esteban Gutierrez : Sauber - 1:39.592 + 6.345

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

Next up : Qualifying at 13.00u CET !!!!

Result 2nd practice session :

Raikkonen leads from Webber in 2nd session :
Kimi Raikkonen edged out the Red Bulls for the fastest time in second Friday practice for the Bahrain Grand Prix at Sakhir. Raikkonen's pacesetting lap of 1m34.154s in his Lotus came just after the halfway point.
It could have been faster still, as the Finn ran wide at the final corner on the way to the flag. Yet even with that slip, Raikkonen's pace was sufficient to edge him 0.030 seconds of Mark Webber, who had been in front for the preceding 20 minutes. Raikkonen then set an encouraging pace on his later long run, although he was keen to come in earlier than Lotus wanted him to as his tyres faded. Sebastian Vettel completed the top three in the second Red Bull, a tenth behind his team-mate. Morning pacesetter Ferrari dropped back only slightly.
After his fastest time in practice one, Felipe Massa had some minor adventures on the way to sixth. Fernando Alonso was fourth. Between them, Paul di Resta repeated his excellent morning pace and kept Force India in the top five. Mercedes had a low-key afternoon: Nico Rosberg eighth and Lewis Hamilton 10th, split by Adrian Sutil in the second Force India. Romain Grosjean was six places and 0.477s behind his team-mate Raikkonen in seventh. Neither McLaren made it into the top 10, Jenson Button and Sergio Perez ending up 11th and 13th.
Just a day after saying he had learned an important lesson from his Chinese GP collision with Sutil, Esteban Gutierrez was in the wars again as he banged wheels with Charles Pic as he tried to pass the slower Caterham. The Sauber had to limp back to the pits with a puncture. Pic's car was unscathed, and he got within half a second of Gutierrez and Valtteri Bottas's Williams in the final results. The Frenchman was the best of the backmarker group, just ahead of the Marussias of Max Chilton and Jules Bianchi, as the the Briton outpaced his team-mate for the first time. Bianchi had sat out morning practice in favour of third driver Rodolfo Gonzalez..

1. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus - 1:34.154 -
2. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing - 1:34.184 + 0.030
3. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing - 1:34.282 + 0.128
4. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari - 1:34.310 + 0.156
5. Paul di Resta : Force India - 1:34.543 + 0.389
6. Felipe Massa : Ferrari - 1:34.552 + 0.398
7. Romain Grosjean : Lotus - 1:34.631 + 0.477
8. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP - 1:34.666 + 0.512
9. Adrian Sutil : Force India - 1:34.932 + 0.778
10. Lewis Hamilton : Mercedes GP - 1:34.976 + 0.822
11. Jenson Button : McLaren - 1:35.356 + 1.202
12. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso - 1:35.506 + 1.352
13. Sergio Perez : McLaren - 1:35.589 + 1.435
14. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso - 1:35.761 + 1.607
15. Nico Hulkenberg : Sauber - 1:36.133 + 1.979
16. Pastor Maldonado : Williams - 1:36.279 + 2.125
17. Valtteri Bottas : Williams - 1:36.579 + 2.425
18. Esteban Gutierrez : Sauber - 1:36.616 + 2.462
19. Charles Pic : Caterham - 1:37.061 + 2.907
20. Max Chilton : Marussia F1 Team - 1:37.313 + 3.159
21. Jules Bianchi : Marussia F1 Team - 1:37.363 + 3.209
22. Giedo van der Garde : Caterham - 1:37.970 + 3.816

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi