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After reading all the^posts from yesterday and today i agree with HvB because is realy getting out of hand i would say ,some people take this realy too serious i think so maybe it's just better and this is only what i think ofcourse ,maybe it's just better too put the girls in alfabetical order on the list with just the profile and vid under her photo and whitout the voting ,this way nobody will have a say about a girls ranking ..so just the name of the girl/model on alfabetical order whitout giving the ranking points and when there is a new girl/model just put her also on it and that's just it . No complains or fuss about ranking points ,her performance ranking ,etc
 Kind Regards Shaky |
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I would normally disagree with the statement I am about to make, but in this case ....
... What we need is a sense of proportion here ... Liveshow-TV has nearly 38000 members who can vote. Yesterday fewer than 0.5% of those members voted for eUrotic TV models. Currently fewer than 0.05% of those members are participating in this debate. You don't have to be a statistician to understand the significance of the voting and this debate ... So, treat the voting as a bit of fun or totally ignore it ..... it just does not matter ... but don't take it seriously ... |
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HvB wrote:What about sacking the voting completely and just present the models in a random order? Oooh, spoilsport.... 
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What about sacking the voting completely and just present the models in a random order?
The voting in general is just what it is: a snapshot of the votes of the last 14 days. And it's absolutly unimportant if any given individual has voted only once, or 14 times, or never. The motives why that person voted are also totally unimportant. It's like in real live or does anybody believe that the majority of the voters has read any political manifest before going to the election? |
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I have another idea for a little bit more fairness by the voting. Every voter have to spend at least (e.g. 50) points, before he can push the send button. So the only-my-favorite-girl-voters are forced to spend also some points to the other models.
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Yes Tari, I understand your objection but probably you misunderstood my idea.
This is the point: I have not official data, but as far I can see, also from the members of the italian forum: - Cathegory A: Fans of a single model . They vote everyday with 5 star for that model, indipendently from her performance (which is, in some cases, very different from day to day), while they give a 'magic' rating to the girls they never watch (it's a mistery to me how to rate a girl I don't know...) - Cathegory B: Fans of a good Liveshow. They look at more than one aspect, they have eyes for all the girls. This is the reason this cathegory of members vote with less regularity than the first cathegory and their votes has a minor weight. But they can't deny that some girls deserve to be rewarded for all their efforts (last nightshow is a good example) So my idea: we must find a way to make it possible that all the members express the same number of votes in a month (1,4,8,30,....., 4 is just an example). How can we reach this aim ? Probably in several ways, I just exposed the first one that came to my mind. Members must not vote according the videos they downloaded. The vote must be only a filter working this way: - Member A would like to vote every day: he can't, only 4 votes. - Member B never votes: he has to vote 4 times, otherwise he can't download videos. Just ETV votes for ETV videos. --------------------- Probably another positive aspect : - actually many of the members who give 'magic ratings' to the models they don't know are members who belong to Cathegory A - with my system also some members of Cathegory B give these 'magic ratings', so also this component should have a better equilibrium. It's just a proposal, nothing more. If somebody has an idea about a better filter or if members are happy with the actual system there is no problem. Now I go back to my grave, because I've been too long. |
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I doubt that more than 10 or 20 % of the videodownloaders have scene the just daytime models live on the screen and with not videos for every model available the boundary condition of voting on the models page for video downloading won't work.
Also there are more channels than etv and what way would the condition work? Just etv videos for etv votes or also etv videos for Elite votes? I'm sure that nobody would like to programm this and it wouldn't be utile for the page and server, too. And btw: less than 10% can push the Thx-button. Why should 100% be able to vote 4 times a month? |
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You know people my personal top ten isn't represented either (although now a lot more then before
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In front of the unreality of the results, I personally stopped voting, and I leave the “sect of the Gia's admirers” be jubilant.
Without real significance, the classification is after all no so paramount that this. And I stop to lose my time for that |
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vappiano68 wrote:For me it's just a sort of respect for the hard work of some beautiful girls. Thanks vappiano for your post, I totally agree! I gave Gia always points for her beautiful and erotic shows, but Gia on place 1 and Amy and Mashiara on 4 and 5 is a little bit strange. Now I'm forced to give her 0 points to work against this "terror-gia-voters". Sorry, I like Gia more and more (also without nudity) but I wish me also a little bit more objectivity by the votings. But I'm afraid we must accept that the ranking cannot be used in this realistic and respectful way we want and it's so only a reflection of the most popular model. Greets logic |
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vappiano68 wrote:Simple: you should avoid to vote (I vote 3/4 times/month). Nah, I don't think I should deprive myself of the right to vote, just because I don't watch all of the models! It's totally unrealistic to give an unbiased rating, and I won't even try. Maybe you manage to do that, but I guess you're part of a minority then. Maybe the entire poll shouldn't be taken too seriously. It seems to me that it just reflects the overall impression the models leave on the viewers. After reading this forum for several days now, I get the impression that Gia exerts some magic on many members here, so IMO it's quite OK if she's on top of the list today - even if her magic doesn't reach me, to be honest. |
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arimolac wrote:I'm watching the shows selectively, depending on the participating models, and I'm totally ignoring some models, because I don't like them. I guess I'm not the only one who consumes ETV this way. So how should I give an objective rating? Simple: you should avoid to vote (I vote 3/4 times/month). How can you vote the models that you don't watch ? arimolac wrote:The best thing I can do is to rate my favorite models according to how much I enjoy their performances in general, and there's not much variance in this rating. This is true for some girls, not for other girls. Anyway, as I previously said, it's not a problem for me who is the n° 1 ,2, .... For me it's just a sort of respect for the hard work of some beautiful girls. You can be a beutiful and charming girl, but sitting on a chair or a couch for 4 hours and showing your feet now and then cannot be compared to the work of girls dancing, undressing, smiling, inter-acting for 5/6 straight hours. If you want to understand the difference...try to imagine a ppv service with Brona and Cleopatra ... |
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You have to bear in mind that a rapid surge of votes to push a model up the table will become an equally rapid drop in votes 14 days later, when they "fall off the end".
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Sarras wrote: I believe that by the date of this review, the main problem is that Gia is the first in the list no?.
is so hard to understand that for many people, eroticism is something more to be midnight with panties on his knees? Finally, someone who thinks in well-advised way. |
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vappiano68 wrote:I just want to see that girls' efforts are rewarded in a proper way. I'm not quite happy with the results of the voting either, because it doesn't reflect my preferences in any way. But nevertheless I think it's quite OK if the voters push their favorite models, rather than trying to assess objectively the daily merits of all models on the entire show. I don't think that many viewers watch ALL shows 24-7 and pay proper attention to ALL models all the time. As far as I'm concerned, I'm watching the shows selectively, depending on the participating models, and I'm totally ignoring some models, because I don't like them. I guess I'm not the only one who consumes ETV this way. So how should I give an objective rating? The best thing I can do is to rate my favorite models according to how much I enjoy their performances in general, and there's not much variance in this rating. |
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