Eurotic's website & webstream

asoert wrote:well offcorse naked boobs and ass??

Read [Versteckter Link - Registrierung notwendig] for an answer to your query

well offcorse naked boobs and ass??

asoert wrote:

vector wrote:

asoert wrote:???? did she showed boobs and ass ????

This is hardly be avoided when she stands in front of a camera.

well is this yes or no????

well, are you asking for boobs & ass or for naked boobs & ass? ;)

vector wrote:

asoert wrote:???? did she showed boobs and ass ????

This is hardly be avoided when she stands in front of a camera.

well is this yes or no????

asoert wrote:???? did she showed boobs and ass ????

This is hardly be avoided when she stands in front of a camera.

hi guys did ava showed anything interesting in her show with charley ???? did she showed boobs and ass ???? thanks

bellerophon wrote:

JohnGuitar wrote:What a shameful decision from ETV management for not proposing any Premium Hour Show
in the next week, this means the fetish people and foolishness of phone calls won in this
contest between eroticism and censor-ship as there are scheduled only Exclusive shows.
I don't understand why ETV is frightened of innovation and new scheme.
It is easy to come up with new plan or purpose just look back what worked for you some years
ago and challenge your own assumption that you are right all the time.
Finally you have to change your mind about some fundamental tenet of your belief,
and if you have no wish to do so, then you are likely to lose customers and viewers.
JohnGuitar

Come on - a whole two weeks of coming up with a completely different show with brand new ideas every night must take its toll on the creative and artistic Bohemian juices.........

What about cold turkey? 6 weeks.

What a shameful decision from ETV management for not proposing any Premium Hour Show
in the next week, this means the fetish people and foolishness of phone calls won in this
contest between eroticism and censor-ship as there are scheduled only Exclusive shows.
I don't understand why ETV is frightened of innovation and new scheme.
It is easy to come up with new plan or purpose just look back what worked for you some years
ago and challenge your own assumption that you are right all the time.
Finally you have to change your mind about some fundamental tenet of your belief,
and if you have no wish to do so, then you are likely to lose customers and viewers.
JohnGuitar

Wilsonsand wrote:

brokingbull wrote:This afternoon the web stream again is occupied by boring models while top models like Elmar have to stay outside of the fitting room.

I agree.Reserved hours are a lot and block a lot of time of useful time for another shows. I guess it should be 2 different streaming channels. It would give more chances of business, new possibilities, but i understand they don't do anything about it as they are very happy with reserved hours, so profitables with too low costs(also because their constant blindness and lack of respect to the viewers) The show is the less important way to get callings (money), but love and devotion from fans is more important and reserved hours are perfect for that. Who cares then about shows?

At least they could split the screen in 2 halves. One half for fitting room and one for reserved els.
In these shows, especially the fitting room, more than 60% of the screen is wasted with the curtains on both sides.
Someone should tell etv-managers that in the meanwhile we use wide screens (16:9).....

brokingbull wrote:This afternoon the web stream again is occupied by boring models while top models like Elmar have to stay outside of the fitting room.

I agree.Reserved hours are a lot and block a lot of time of useful time for another shows. I guess it should be 2 different streaming channels. It would give more chances of business, new possibilities, but i understand they don't do anything about it as they are very happy with reserved hours, so profitables with too low costs(also because their constant blindness and lack of respect to the viewers) The show is the less important way to get callings (money), but love and devotion from fans is more important and reserved hours are perfect for that. Who cares then about shows?

This afternoon the web stream again is occupied by boring models while top models like Elmar have to stay outside of the fitting room.

robert wrote:she fled the studio never to be seen again.

a pity she fled. Brona, Ju and others could follow her

Wilsonsand wrote:don´t know why, i see no contradiction between the 2 parts..

As you have now seen the show you will know the smoking was only an incidental part of one section and was never meant to be an erotic element.

Wilsonsand wrote:(do you remember Alicia shadows performance?)

i don't but i am sure she did as she fled the studio never to be seen again.

But enough already. I have gone way beyond my annual word count. Enjoy what you like to enjoy.

robert wrote:If you are looking for a paid up member of the club speak to Wilsonsand.

sorry? i am not interested in the succesful of the webshows in detriment of FTA, i wish FTA would be like years ago and there would not exists webshows!!! I am a FTA shows deffender, sorry, and i can´t assure to you i don´t join any "club", i am very far of being a fan reserving shows, sending gifts, sorry, no.. I sign right now the removal of the etv site in favor of a real interesting TV shows offer. Right now.Unfortunately the cast of the TV hot shows almost always don´t like to me at all, and neither a lot of premiums. My disappointment is almost complete in both sides.Anyway i admit sometimes there are decent (no more in my opinion, level is terribly low) night shows, and some nice premiums.

robert wrote:You might want to stop quoting the above then.

I don´t know why, i see no contradiction between the 2 parts.

Do you want to know what is erotic for me? i won´t write too much. Gia in movement was tremendously erotic, for example .A nice striptease, a naughty play with shadows, (do you remember Alicia shadows performance?), Ava in the fitting room playing with her panties, Amy with Mashi performances, a lot from the good old days....that is erotic for me. Evah trying to make jokes honestly no. Evah making a striptease yes. But if she doesn´t remove any piece of her clothes, then the striptease is plane, with no mistery and it doesn´t works because there is no game. I know she won´t offer nothing surprising or she won´t challenge her own limits. She will stay in her ultra soft safe zone with her dark shirt and her culotte (not even wetting them), without the less risk, and in the case of some soft models, without even a little bit of talent, and that is very boring to me. Once Evah was naughty and a little wild within being soft. Then she was hot, but not now. You like this kind of shows, i don´t, that´s all. And i would like even the soft models lika Evah or Connie today, should be brave enough for making a decent erotic performance like Alicia did that time, and not childish pieces of entertainment, soft models who are far from the erotic identity of ETV as a bait for money income from fans and people who is hopeful maybe it will be possible just today the soft model does a step ahead in a more hot direction.

best regards.

vappiano68 wrote:

Tarl_Cabot wrote:they found a group that always pays and they abstain from a group that never pays.
if they care most for this group it will mean that this group covers most of etvs costs.
they cannot pay a single camera man with a the used tissues of a free viewer.

But there are also other questions, Tari:

- in order to take care of this "group that always pays" with premium webshows, they have further costs.
So "X" (original costs) has increased to "X+Y" (current costs) ;

- a group that always pays does exist since the beginning, and it seems to pay (most of all) for what can be showed on fta.

So, in the whole structure, there's only one winner: people who take advantage from ETV's further costs (Y):
web designers, web mainteiners and editorial strategists.
I hope these roles are indipendent among them (one from each other), otherwise the reason for this
"therapeutic persistence " called "Eurotic's website & webstream". would be easily explained .

my answer wasn't only about the webshow customers but also about the fetish fans who pay for their wishes in the fta. (not to forget that tits and pussy shows are many people a kind of fetish, too).
and if I see the VIPs fta and read the posts of longtime viewers and probably former customers so I think that a group that always pays does exist since the beginning is in the wrong tense.
for sure it was easier for all fta erotic channels in the past and I think every channel "owns" a lot of former customers who are now called unhappy occasional viewers.
if we compare the shows of the channels so most will agree that every channel has become worse (not BS24 of course, they kept their lowest level) and while their costs are higher nowadays than in the past the number of customers is probably lower. one result is that wishes of any fetish guys are now more eye-catching and maybe these guys have found a new playground as you see these wishes not only at etv but at the Babeshows, SexySat and on every webcam website, too. I have no idea about the average costs to be a satisfied feet lover but maybe these shows are the cheapest or even only way to be satisfied.
and as etv most or all erotic channels have started webshows, too. and be asure that also at the other channels most webshows are shit. all channels need more viewers and of course more customers but it seems that none of the channels knows the right or best answer and so every channel tries its ideas and makes its mistakes and of course nearly all these ideas include new costs. but the channels must try and must spend some money and must accept mistakes or all channels will be dead, down, offline or whatever but not any longer an interesting and worth to watch fta erotic channel.

PS: you don't really believe that etv has engaged only one professional web staff, or? it's etv, everyone can do everything perfectly. ;)