Eurotic TV - General Discussion

as usual ... a nice story, but of course the facts are made up ...

[22.09.2010 23:22:03] etv: And with all sky italy burokrates we can not include eurotic in their epg for one month allready

you see ...
negotiations started back in August and

[04.10.2010 20:54:59] etv: it looks like we are back in Sky epg

in early October sky Italy commited to change the epg asap
well, it took till November till they finaly rolled out the change.
Yeah, for sure it was Simones intervention ...

And I'm sure the tooth fairy help him with that, right?

Well, sometimes you just need to look in front of your door to see where the 3 months delay comes from.
Of course you could also make up a story and believe in it ...

brokingbull wrote:ps: Last week naked girls ran through the streets of Berlin, during erotic fair "Venus 2012". A "no go" in Vatikan, eh, Pakistan, grrr, ..........Molvanian!!

I remember Jaya, Veni and one or two others going to 'Venus' to promote ETV. Well, this was way back in the good old times

Haiduc wrote:Leaving Sky Italy means losing an 80-90% of their audience in that country, due to poor use of FTA receivers.
Sat is Sky, in Italy; that means that only a small number of people receive ETV with an alternative system.

Honestly I don't know if they pay or are paid for appearing in Sky decoder "logical channel numbering" (I think it's a good question...), but I'm pretty sure that won't be a good move for their business.

If the decision isn't definitive, I suggest them to think about that, not one time, but two (or three, or ten...).

Sure they know, it already happened in 2010, when they moved to another frequence, out of Sky Italy receivers.
Calls and sms from Italy dropped to zero. They handled the issue in their peculiar way so that was what they obtain.
When viewers called to report about it, first answer from italian moderators (mainly Mimosa, but Gigi and Clio too) was "it doesn't depend on us, it depends on your system".
After some weeks they changed to "it doesn't depend on us, you have to ask Sky".
Only in november (10 November 2010, starting from the same period in August) ETV appeared again on Sky receivers.
That was because former italian moderator Simone (the one and only good person there) thumped his bosses to get a deal with Sky Italy, otherwise very few people would buy a FTA receiver to watch ETV.
Guess about Simone's source.

Maybe the amount of calls and sms from Italy has now becomen so little that they chose to save their money.
Because you have to pay Sky to be in their EPG, specially if your purpose could compete to Sky content (Sky Hot Club, for example).

vappiano68 wrote:

HvB wrote:The offer stands. I will try to convince them to do your show if you come up with a reasonable concept.

ETV's problems can't be solved by a "concept show" or a script.
Moreover I'm not a fan of "predefined shows".
You know very well what I mean. Anyway you can find a source of inspiration here:
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The girls from Molvania City need a plan, script or concept to tear down their pants?
The boss in the upper floor of etv-sky-scraper needs someone who tells him what is wrong with his plans/concepts whatever these are.
The boss needs to be told that in an uncensored way. But it can't be said here..... a pity. Otherwise etv indicates to ban the viewer, I have happened to know by boardmails. (Maybe boardmails should be forbidden if they are not true)

Only one thing: This is second week I don't buy any "exclusive" or "premium" show. After all these boring shows in the past. I will have a look again when I read some positive comments here. But the webstream-thread is dead since a week.....
And british sky-satellite dropped from sky last night?

ps: Last week naked girls ran through the streets of Berlin, during erotic fair "Venus 2012". A "no go" in Vatikan, eh, Pakistan, grrr, ..........Molvanian!!

Hi,
maybe you don't believe me but like a simple viewer i sent some mail with some suggestions for the show and even some little change to do in the web- concept to go in the right (for me) way, and i have spoken like a person who spent money for Eurotic but never will spend for this ETV. Useless to say that all was ignored and im sure someone was also laughing.
Well now we see some results of their policy, i guess is not a format question, but the attitude of someone, they are arrogant, they think that there are a lot of people with a nose ring outside of ETV, they still write on the site that they don't know what will happen during the next PS .....
They always told "if you don't like... change channel" maybe too much people did it!

ok do you want some suggestions?
Stop with stupid camera work
stop with stupid directors in the studio, leave the girls free to do anything they like,
stop to tease people sending messages with requests that never will fulfilled, simply tell them that the request is wrong and can't be fulfilled.
Stop with capricious kids in the studio, if someone doesn't like this work, stay at home.
They have spent years to destroy the channel, i hope they not expect to solve all in some days.

(sorry for my english)

Leaving Sky Italy means losing an 80-90% of their audience in that country, due to poor use of FTA receivers.
Sat is Sky, in Italy; that means that only a small number of people receive ETV with an alternative system.

Honestly I don't know if they pay or are paid for appearing in Sky decoder "logical channel numbering" (I think it's a good question...), but I'm pretty sure that won't be a good move for their business.

If the decision isn't definitive, I suggest them to think about that, not one time, but two (or three, or ten...).

Sorry but few aspirin I have needs for my personal care.
;)
An alternative vision to Titanic.
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outside wrote:Talking about script for shows it's like giving some aspirin a patient who needs some open-heart surgery.

Well, it's just as futile to talk about open-heart surgery to people that can't even give some aspirin, isn't it?

HvB wrote:

outside wrote:Google translated it as "aggressive treatment" but I think this isn't the appropriate translation. I wanted to mean what in italian has been named as "accanimento terapeutico".
So better translations are well accepted. I am not a medic but I have read this idiomatic phrase doesn't exist in not-latin languages.
Maybe "useless therapy".

Futile medical care
hth

Right.
Talking about script for shows it's like giving some aspirin a patient who needs some open-heart surgery.

HvB wrote:The offer stands. I will try to convince them to do your show if you come up with a reasonable concept.

ETV's problems can't be solved by a "concept show" or a script.
Moreover I'm not a fan of "predefined shows".
You know very well what I mean. Anyway you can find a source of inspiration here:
[Versteckter Link - Registrierung notwendig]

outside wrote:Google translated it as "aggressive treatment" but I think this isn't the appropriate translation. I wanted to mean what in italian has been named as "accanimento terapeutico".
So better translations are well accepted. I am not a medic but I have read this idiomatic phrase doesn't exist in not-latin languages.
Maybe "useless therapy".

Futile medical care
hth

Google translated it as "aggressive treatment" but I think this isn't the appropriate translation. I wanted to mean what in italian has been named as "accanimento terapeutico".
So better translations are well accepted. I am not a medic but I have read this idiomatic phrase doesn't exist in not-latin languages.
Maybe "useless therapy".

lucifer70 wrote:The truth is that ETV has outlived itself.

Regards

You won't believe, but I partly agree on that. That's why it's time to try something new and different, but of course that triggers a lot of disagreement, as you can read all over the forum.

vappiano68 wrote:

HvB wrote:

vappiano68 wrote:

HvB wrote:q.e.d.

Quality Evaluation for Dismantlement ?

Well, what about being creative and constructive for once?
Write a script for a show you'd like to see. If we manage to convince them to do the show, Bellerophons statistics will show us if it is a reasonable strategy (and you have it in hand to make it successful ).

Unfortunately I've lost every kind of will in doing it.
If you remeber I did in the past, receiving only virtual kicks in the ass.
At that time I liked to think that this forum could be seen as a sort of "propositive feedback" for ETV.
Now, after 3-4 years since then, I've noticed that this forum has been studied as "destructive feedback".
All that we liked (it can be seen in the videos threads) has been banned from the shows.

Sorry, there's no more possibility to be constructive, because it's not a matter of ideas, it's a matter of will.

Exactly, this is the point.
Now ETV is like the Titanic, it continues to take on water and the orchestra continues to play, even if no one is dancing any more.
A boxer in the fifteenth round would have more clear ideas of who manages ETV now.
The truth is that ETV has outlived itself.

Regards

The offer stands. I will try to convince them to do your show if you come up with a reasonable concept.