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29.03.2014, 13:04

Re: Formula 1 General Chat & Discussion

Update :

Bottas hit with grid penalty for impeding Ricciardo :
Valtteri Bottas has been given a three-place grid penalty for the Malaysian Grand Prix for impeding Daniel Ricciardo in qualifying.
The Red Bull driver complained that he had been blocked by the Williams in Q2. "He was on his out-lap," said Ricciardo of Bottas.
"I'll have a word with him. There were a lot of times last year, to be honest... "We raced each other a lot in the junior categories and I thought we had a lot of respect for each other, but it's a little difficult how many times he's done that now." Bottas had been nonplussed by Ricciardo's charge. "I think there was nothing special," said the Finn. "We were both pushing. For me, there was no incident." The penalty will drop Bottas from 15th to 18th on the grid, and he admitted to being surprised at its imposition.
"I thought it would be OK and there would be no penalties," he said. "It was a difficult situation - we had a radio problem and in Turn 9 the team told me that I had either a gap in front or behind Ricciardo. "So I thought I would try to stay in front. Obviously he was coming very quickly and it was a bit closer in the last few corners than maybe it should've been.
"It didn't cost him anything in the end and I wasn't sure whether he was on a timed lap or not."

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Shaky - Schumi

29.03.2014, 11:25

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Result of a wet qualifying :

Q3:
1. L. Hamilton - Mercedes - 01:59.431
2. S. Vettel - Red Bull - 01:59.486
3. N. Rosberg - Mercedes - 02:00.050
4. F. Alonso - Ferrari - 02:00.175
5. D. Ricciardo - Red Bull - 02:00.541
6. K. Raikkonen - Ferrari - 02:01.218
7. N. Hulkenberg - Force India - 02:01.712
8. K. Magnussen - McLaren - 02:02.213
9. J. Vergne - Toro Rosso - 02:03.078
10. J. Button - McLaren - 02:04.053

Q2 :
11. D. Kvyat - Toro Rosso - 02:02.351
12. E. Gutiérrez - Sauber - 02:02.369
13. F. Massa - Williams - 02:02.460
14. S. Perez - Force India - 02:02.511
15. V. Bottas - Williams - 02:02.756
16. R. Grosjean - Lotus - 02:02.885

Q3 :

17. P. Maldonado - Lotus - 02:02.074
18. A. Sutil - Sauber - 02:02.131
19. J. Bianchi - Marussia - 02:02.702
20. K. Kobayashi - Caterham - 02:02.595
21. M. Chilton - Marussia - 02:02.388
22. M. Ericsson - Caterham - 02:02.407

Qualiying Time : 01:59.431
Pole : Lewis Hamilton
Team Battle : K.Magnussen > J.Button
Grid Pos. Nico Rosberg : 3rd place

Hamilton edges Vettel at Sepang :

Rain or shine, the Mercs have the best time. Or to be accurate the best time ‚Äì Lewis Hamilton put his Mercedes on pole in the wet qualifying sessions ‚ and the third best time as Nico Rosberg gridded third in the other Mercedes. Sebastian Vettel qualified his Red Bull second.
Qualifying 1
Torrential rain delayed the start of qualifying by 50 minutes. Mercedes teammates Nico Rosberg and Lewis Hamilton lined up at pit exit to be the first out. The track had dried enough so that the intermediate Pirelli wet weather tire was an option, but the McLaren drivers had the extreme wet tire fitted. The ambient temperature at the start of the session was 79 degrees Fahrenheit (26 degrees Centigrade) and the track temperature was 93 degrees Fahrenheit (34 degrees Centigrade.) More rain was expected, so the drivers had to get in some quick times while the rain held off. Everybody headed out except Marcus Ericsson whose Caterham had stalled in the pit lane. Hamilton, on inters, posted the first time: 1:57.309 and then Rosberg crossed the line with a time of 1:57.189.
McLaren radioed Kevin Magnussen that the inters were the best option and told him to pit for tire switch. With 11 minutes remaining in the session, Rosberg shaved his time down to a 1:57.183 and Hamilton was down to a 1:57.202. The rain was getting heavier on some sections of the circuit. Daniel Ricciardo had snatched third place while his Red Bull teammate Sebastian Vettel was 10th.
With 7 minutes remaining in the session, all 22 drivers were on track as Nico Hulkenberg moved his Force India into third place. McLaren's Jenson Button and Jan Magnussen had managed to claw their way into the top 16. With 4 minutes remaining in the session, Vettel got up to third with a 1:57.654 and then slid off at Turn 9. With 2 minutes remaining in the session, only the Mercedes duo was not on track. With just under a minute remaining, Ericsson lost control of his Caterham and hit the barriers. Esteban Gutierrez (Sauber) just missed hitting the Caterham. The top six at the end of Q1 were: Rosberg, Hamilton, Vettel, Hulkenberg, Fernando Alonso (Ferrari) and Ricciardo. The six drivers eliminated at the end of Q1 were: Pastor Maldonado (Lotus), Adrian Sutil (Sauber), Jules Bianchi (Marussia), Kamui Kobayashi (Caterham), Max Chilton (Marussia) and Ericsson.

Qualifying 2
It started to rain heavier during the break between Q1 and Q2 but not enough to cause any delays. But the track was wet enough for Hamilton and Rosberg to have the extreme wets on their Mercedes. The other drivers except the inter-shod Alonso, Kimi Raikkonen (Ferrari) and Valtteri Bottas (Williams) followed suit. Once again everybody was out trying to get in a time before the rain increased. But then Alonso clipped Daniel Kvyat's Toro Rosso and the red flags stopped the session after just two minutes. The left front suspension on the Ferrari was damaged. After a 6 minute delay the Q2 session restarted. Everybody was on extreme wets except for Bottas. Everybody but Alonso headed out. But within two minutes Alonso joined them. Hamilton set the mark: 1:59.419. Bottas was 10 seconds off the pace. With 7 minutes remaining in the session, Daniel Ricciardo put his Red Bull into second place with a 2.00.147. With 6 minutes remaining in the session, Sebastian Vettel took second with a 1:59.879 while Hamilton improved to a 1:59.241. With 4 minutes remaining in the session, Magnussen spun off in the final turn. With minutes 2 remaining in the session, Hamilton improved to 1:59.041 while Rosberg moved up to second with a 1:59.445. Then at the least minute Vettel snatched second with a 1:59.399. The top six at the end of Q2 were: Hamilton, Vettel, Rosberg, Ricciardo, Hulkenberg and Alonso. The six drivers eliminated at the end of Q2 were: Kvyat, Gutierrez, Felipe Massa (Williams), Sergio Perez (Sauber), Bottas and Romain Grosjean (Lotus).

Qualifying 3
Raikkonen was the first out for the 12-minute Q3. The question now was intermediate or extreme wet tires? Most drivers opted for the latter. Magnussen and Button were on inters, which was the wrong choice. Magnussen pitted for extremes. Raikkonen set the first time: 2:01.218, only to have Hamilton beat that with a 1:59.431. With 4 minutes remaining in the session, the track was starting to dry off but was it enough to warrant a switch to inters? Raikkonen pitted for new extremes. That was the way to go. Vettel moved into second and Alonso third. Rosberg was fourth and Ricciardo fifth. On his final fast lap Hamilton went off at Turn 4 and continued.
Just as the checkered flag came out, Rosberg grabbed third from Alonso. But the rest of the drivers failed to improve. The top 10 qualifiers at the end of Q3 were: Hamilton, Vettel, Rosberg, Alonso, Ricciardo, Raikkonen Hulkenberg, Magnussen, Jean-Eric Vergne (Toro Rosso) and Button who had stayed out on inters for the entire session.

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Shaky - Schumi

29.03.2014, 07:28

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The 3rd practice is done , so here is the result :

1. Nico Rosberg - Mercedes GP - 1:39.008
2. Lewis Hamilton - Mercedes GP - 1:39.240 +0.232
3. Kimi Räikkönen - Ferrari - 1:40.156 +1.148
4. Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull Racing - 1:40.387 +1.379
5. Nico Hulkenberg - Force India - 1:40.523 +1.515
6. Daniel Ricciardo - Red Bull Racing - 1:40.686 +1.678
7. Fernando Alonso - Ferrari - 1:40.736 +1.728
8. Felipe Massa - Williams - 1:40.781 +1.773
9. Valtteri Bottas - Williams - 1:40.891 +1.883
10. Sergio Perez - Force India - 1:41.029 +2.021
11. Daniil Kvyat - Toro Rosso - 1:41.182 +2.174
12. Jean-Eric Vergne - Toro Rosso - 1:41.441 +2.433
13. Adrian Sutil - Sauber - 1:41.552 +2.544
14. Esteban Gutierrez - Sauber - 1:42.041 +3.033
15. Romain Grosjean - Lotus - 1:42.749 +3.741
16. Pastor Maldonado - Lotus - 1:43.539 +4.531
17. Max Chilton - Marussia F1 Team - 1:43.977 +4.969
18. Jules Bianchi - Marussia F1 Team - 1:44.170 +5.162
19. Marcus Ericsson - Caterham - 1:44.457 +5.449
20. Kamui Kobayashi - Caterham - 1:46.015 +7.007
21. Jenson Button - McLaren - 2:05.555 +26.547
22. Kevin Magnussen - McLaren - no time

Nico Rosberg fastest as Mercedes dominates :
Mercedes head into qualifying for the Malaysian GP as the team to beat as Nico Rosberg was quickest in FP3, 0.2s up on Lewis Hamilton. As many expected - and some feared - Mercedes had a clear advantage over the chasing pack in the final practice at the Sepang circuit. Swapping to the medium Pirelli tyres in the final 20 minutes, Rosberg clocked a 1:39.008 to set the pace ahead of Hamilton. The British driver was 0.232s down on his team-mate's best but well ahead of third placed Kimi Raikkonen.
The Finnish driver's best time, a 1:40.156, was 1.148s short of Rosberg's P1 time while Sebastian Vettel was fourth for Red Bull Racing. The German, who used a new front wing that features slots gaps that are much further apart than its predecessor, was a further two-tenths off the pace. Nico Hulkenberg showed some pace in his Force India to finish fifth ahead of Daniel Ricciardo and Fernando Alonso. Felipe Massa and Valtteri Bottas were eighth and ninth ahead of Sergio Perez. Meanwhile, it was a better day for Lotus in that Romain Grosjean managed 16 laps and Pastor Maldonado 20. Grosjean, though, was not happy and told his team "there is no performance" followed by "the rear end is a disaster". There were also issues for McLaren with Jenson Button covering just four laps and Kevin Magnussen five. Sensor problems meant neither driver could get the power out of their engines.

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Shaky - Schumi

28.03.2014, 18:05

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Result of the 2nd practice session :

1. Nico Rosberg - Mercedes GP - 1:39.909
2. Kimi Räikkönen - Ferrari - 1:39.944 +0.035
3. Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull Racing - 1:39.970 +0.061
4. Lewis Hamilton - Mercedes GP - 1:40.051 +0.142
5. Fernando Alonso - Ferrari - 1:40.103 +0.194
6. Felipe Massa - Williams - 1:40.112 +0.203
7. Daniel Ricciardo - Red Bull Racing - 1:40.276 +0.367
8. Jenson Button - McLaren - 1:40.628 +0.719
9. Valtteri Bottas - Williams - 1:40.638 +0.729
10. Nico Hulkenberg - Force India - 1:40.691 +0.782
11. Jean-Eric Vergne - Toro Rosso - 1:40.777 +0.868
12. Kevin Magnussen - McLaren - 1:41.014 +1.105
13. Adrian Sutil - Sauber - 1:41.257 +1.348
14. Daniil Kvyat - Toro Rosso - 1:41.325 +1.416
15. Esteban Gutierrez - Sauber - 1:41.407 +1.498
16. Sergio Perez - Force India - 1:41.671 +1.762
17. Romain Grosjean - Lotus - 1:42.531 +2.622
18. Max Chilton - Marussia F1 Team - 1:43.638 +3.729
19. Jules Bianchi - Marussia F1 Team - 1:43.752 +3.843
20. Marcus Ericsson - Caterham - 1:45.703 +5.794
21. Pastor Maldonado - Lotus -no time
22. Kamui Kobayashi - Caterham - no time

Rosberg fastest as Mercedes own first day in Malaysia :
Mercedes F1′s early season strength was again evident with German Nico Rosberg going fastest in Friday Free Practice for the Malaysian Grand Prix as a number of Formula One teams suffered teething problems on a tricky day. Rosberg, who won the season opening race in Australia two weeks ago, clocked a best time of 1:39.909 seconds in the second session at a steamy, slippery Sepang circuit, where track temperatures reached 50 degrees Celsius, testing the cooling systems on the new V6 turbo engines to the max. Rosberg’s team mate Lewis Hamilton had clocked the best time of 1:40.691 in the opening session despite sliding off the track earlier on Friday, the Briton was only fourth in the second session, with a 1:40.051 after more grip issues. The 2008 world champion complained on the team radio after his first venture into the gravel that the circuit was “like driving on marbles”. With less downforce and more torque and power, on the new cars taking some getting used to. Kimi Raikkonen was second quickest on Friday in both sessions for Ferrari with a best time just 0.035 seconds behind Rosberg, with team mate Fernando Alonso fifth with a 1:40.103. The Spanish double world champion had led the timesheets in the opening half of the first session, before making an error and spinning at turn eight. He and his engineers then concentrated on system and balance checks with the result that his times slipped back. For Raikkonen it was a turn around of form, as at the season opener in Melbourne he did not finish any session ahead of teammate Alonso. World champion Sebastian Vettel was third quickest in the second session with a best time of 1:39.970 seconds, but Red Bull Team Principal Christian Horner told Skysports that the team were having problems with a fuel sensor that required changing. Perhaps most notable was the fact that a mere 0.061 of a second separated the top three, while the top 11 were within a second of the top time. Last year, at the end of the same FP2 session, only the top seven were within a second. Fuel flow rates led to Vettel’s team mate Daniel Ricciardo being disqualified from his home grand prix in Melbourne last week, a verdict the team have appealed.The Australian was seventh quickest in the second session on Friday and ended the day by taking a run over the grass. He was behind Felipe Massa of Williams who also took a spin at turn eight, like his former Ferrari team mate Alonso, while Sauber’s Adrian Sutil, Force India’s Nico Hulkenberg and Jean-Eric Vergne in the Toro Rosso also had similar spins. McLaren’s Kevin Magnussen had an up-and-down day with his car stopping on the track at turn 15 in the opening session before the Danish rookie bemoaned oversteering in the second session, as he finished well down the grid. It was nothing compared to the problems of Lotus, however, with Pastor Maldonado not even making it out for the second session after engineers worked on his car which billowed smoke in the opening 90 minute run, before he could register a time. Romain Grosjean’s Lotus faired little better with his car stopping at turn 10 also without him setting a time before his second session was interrupted by another problem with his team telling him to bring the car back to the garage in second gear. Japan’s Kamui Kobayashi was also absent in the second session because of electronic control issues on his Caterham, while Max Chilton also missed most of the precious running time after going off the track after only six minutes.

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Shaky - Schumi

28.03.2014, 06:52

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Result of the 1st practice session :

1. Lewis Hamilton - Mercedes GP - 1:40.691
2. Kimi Räikkönen - Ferrari - 1:40.843 +0.152
3. Nico Rosberg - Mercedes GP - 1:41.028 +0.337
4. Jenson Button - McLaren - 1:41.111 +0.420
5. Kevin Magnussen - McLaren - 1:41.274 +0.583
6. Jean-Eric Vergne - Toro Rosso - 1:41.402 +0.711
7. Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull Racing - 1:41.523 +0.832
8. Nico Hulkenberg - Force India - 1:41.642 +0.951
9. Felipe Massa - Williams - 1:41.686 +0.995
10. Valtteri Bottas - Williams - 1:41.830 +1.139
11. Fernando Alonso - Ferrari - 1:41.923 +1.232
12. Daniel Ricciardo - Red Bull Racing - 1:42.117 +1.426
13. Adrian Sutil - Sauber - 1:42.365 +1.674
14. Daniil Kvyat - Toro Rosso - 1:42.869 +2.178
15. Esteban Gutierrez - Sauber - 1:42.904 +2.213
16. Jules Bianchi - Marussia F1 Team - 1:43.825 +3.134
17. Marcus Ericsson - Caterham - 1:45.775 +5.084
18. Max Chilton - Marussia F1 Team - 1:46.911 +6.220
19. Kamui Kobayashi - Caterham - 1:51.180 +10.489
20. Romain Grosjean - Lotus - no time
21. Sergio Perez - Force India - no time
22. Pastor Maldonado - Lotus - no time

Hamilton edges Raikkonen :
Mercedes’ early season strength was again evident with Briton Lewis Hamilton going fastest in Friday’s first practice for the Malaysian Grand Prix in a session where many cars struggled for grip. The 2008 world champion clocked a best time of one minute 40.691 seconds at the Sepang Circuit on a scorching hot Friday where track temperatures reached 44 Celsius (111 Fahrenheit) during the 90 minute session. However, Hamilton was one of many drivers who encountered the Malaysian gravel after locking his wheels and the Briton said over the team radio the Sepang track was “like driving on marbles”.Ferrari’s Kimi Raikkonen was second quickest in a promising session for the Finn who clocked a best time of 1:40.843 just ahead of Hamilton’s team mate Nico Rosberg, who won the season opener in Australia two weeks ago. Jenson Button was fourth quickest ahead of McLaren team mate Kevin Magnussen, whose car stopped on the track at turn 15 and needed a push from the marshals to get back to the pits with 30 minutes remaining. The Danish rookie, second in Australia on his F1 debut, was back out on the track later in the session, though, relieving fears of a more serious issue with his car. However, there was plenty of concern in the Lotus garage with neither Romain Grosjean or Pastor Maldonado able to complete a timed lap as both encountered issues. The French driver stopped at turn 10 and had to be pushed off the track by marshals early in the session, while smoke billowed out of the back of Maldonado’s car in the final minutes and he was told to switch off the engine by a concerned team. Meanwhile, Sergio Perez also managed just two laps in his Force India while Kamui Kobayashi covered five before Caterham "found a problem with his energy store so it's floor off to change it so he can run again in FP2." Jean Eric Vergne was sixth for Toro Rosso but his rookie Russian team mate Daniil Kyvat was 14th after telling his team over the radio the car was “undriveable”. World champion Sebastian Vettel was seventh quickest, almost a second behind Hamilton, after managing only nine laps, while team mate Daniel Ricciardo managed to clock 20 laps and finished 12th. Ferrari’s Fernando Alonso was first out of the pits in the session and had set the early pace before ending in 11th as he also suffered problems with grip and spun at turn eight but managed to continue. The same corner also caught out the Spaniard’s former team mate Felipe Massa but the Williams driver also resumed, while Sauber’s Adrian Sutil ran wide at turn 15 but kept the car going before making it back on the track.

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Shaky - Schumi

27.03.2014, 20:28

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The Sepang International Circuit, will host the Malaysian Grand Prix for the sixteenth time this weekend. First edition in 1999
Designed by Hermann Tilke, The Sepang circuit is technical and challenging, with a wide variety of fast, medium and slow corners
Sepang is one of the most demanding circuits for tyres and Pirelli has chosen the “Orange hard” and “White medium” compounds
for this weekend

Podium 2011: Vettel(Red Bull) – 2° Button and 3° Heidfeld. Fastest lap: Webber
pole position : Vettel 1'34''870

Podium 2012: Alonso(Ferrari) – 2° Perez and 3° Hamilton. Fastest lap: Raikkonen
pole position : Hamilton 1'36''219

Podium 2013: Vettel(Red Bull) – 2° Webber and 3° Hamilton. Fastest lap: Perez
pole position : Vettel 1'49''674(This lap time was achieved in wet conditions)

the winners
3 wins: Alonso (2005-2007-2012) and Vettel (2010-2011-2013)
2 wins Raikkonen (2003-2008)
1 win: Button(2009)

pole position
2 pole: Alonso (2003-2005); Vettel(2011-2013) and Massa(2007-2008)
1 pole: Button(2009) and Hamilton(2012)

Fastest lap
2: Raikkonen (2005-2012)
1: Alonso(2006); Hamilton(2007); Button(2009); Perez(2013);

Podium(winner+second+third) for current pilots at Sepang
5 (3wins+1second+1 third) Alonso
4 (1+1+2) Button
3 (3+0+0) Vettel
3 (2+0+1) Raikkonen
3 (0+1+2) Hamilton
One second place for Perez
One third place for Rosberg

the superiority of Rosberg and Mercedes in Austrialia
Nico scored the fastest lap time of the race only on lap 19
While almost all other drivers have scored their best lap times in the final race with less fuel
Therefore Rosberg has never pushed to its maximum his Mercedes in the second half of the race.

Sepang. weather forecast: chance of rain 40-60% during the week end
with possible scattered showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon.

27.03.2014, 19:01

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Malaysian Grand Prix at Sepang International Circuit :

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Sepang International Circuit Data :
•Length of lap: 5.543 km
•Lap record: 1:34.223 (Juan-Pablo Montoya, BMW-Williams, 2004)
•Total number of race laps: 56
•Total race distance: 310.408 km
•Pitlane speed limits: 80 km/h in Practice, Qualifying and the Race

Circuit Notes :
•The kerb on the exit of Turn Five has been extended further towards the apex of Turn Six.
•Artificial grass has been removed from areas around the outside of Turns One, Five, Seven, Eight and 12.
•A new kerb has been installed on the Turn 15 entry.
•Attention has been paid to levelling the grass verges as bumps were noted during December’s inspection.
•The DRS sectors will be between Turns 14 and 15 and Turns 15 and One. The first zone has detection 54m after Turn 12 and activation 104 m after Turn 14. Zone two has detection 16 m after the Turn 15 apex followed by activation 28 m after Turn 15

Schedule :
Friday :
1 Free Practice : 03:00 - 04:30 CET
2 Free Practice : 07:00 - 08:30 CET

Saturday :
3 Free Practice : 06:00 - 07:00 CET
Qualifying : 09:00 CET

Sunday :
Race : 10:00 CET

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Shaky - Schumi

19.03.2014, 09:26

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This is the new sound in F1 Sad

Click on picture # 2
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Regards schubert

18.03.2014, 00:22

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f1 birthdays
18/03/1982 timo glock german f1 driver
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17.03.2014, 01:31

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2014 FORMULA 1 PETRONAS MALAYSIA GRAND PRIX
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Fri 28 March 2014
Practice 1 03:00 - 04:30
Practice 2 07:00 - 08:30
Sat 29 March 2014
Practice 3 06:00 - 07:00
Qualifying 09:00
Sun 30 March 2014
Race 10:00

16.03.2014, 17:21

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schubert wrote:Sorry , shaky-schumi , I had to bring this whole explanation about this new rule

Sorry a Long version !!!


Ricciardo excluded from Australia race results 16 Mar 2014


Daniel Ricciardo (AUS) Red Bull Racing, on the grid. Formula One World Championship, Rd1, Australian Grand Prix, Race, Albert Park, Melbourne, Australia, Sunday, 16 March 2014 Daniel Ricciardo (AUS) Red Bull Racing RB10. Formula One World Championship, Rd1, Australian Grand Prix, Race, Albert Park, Melbourne, Australia, Sunday, 16 March 2014 Second placed Daniel Ricciardo (AUS) Red Bull Racing celebrates in parc ferme. Formula One World Championship, Rd1, Australian Grand Prix, Race, Albert Park, Melbourne, Australia, Sunday, 16 March 2014 Daniel Ricciardo (AUS) Red Bull Racing RB10 finished second. Formula One World Championship, Rd1, Australian Grand Prix, Race, Albert Park, Melbourne, Australia, Sunday, 16 March 2014

Red Bull’s Daniel Ricciardo has lost his second-place finish in Sunday's Australian Grand Prix after stewards decided his car had run with too high a fuel flow rate during the race. The team are to appeal the decision.

Ricciardo crossed the line behind winner Nico Rosberg to claim his maiden F1 podium. His exclusion elevates McLaren's Kevin Magnussen to P2 and team mate Jenson Button to third.

Under article 5.1.4 of the new 2014 technical regulations, cars are limited to a fuel flow rate of 100kg/hour, as measured by an FIA-homologated sensor on the car.

According to the stewards’ report, Red Bull used a different fuel sensor on Saturday after they found the one used on Friday had produced unreliable readings. However, when the sensor used on Saturday failed to provide results that were satisfactory to them or the FIA, they were instructed to change back to the original sensor within parc ferme on Saturday night.

Considering this sensor unreliable, Red Bull chose to rely on their own internal fuel flow model, something that the stewards say is in violation of the procedure outlined in the technical regulations.

Furthermore, Red Bull were warned by the FIA’s technical representative during the race that the fuel flow on Ricciardo’s car was too high. The team were given the opportunity to correct this, but according to the stewards’ report, they chose not to make any changes.

Announcing their intention to appeal the stewards’ decision, Red Bull said: “Inconsistencies with the FIA fuel flow meter have been prevalent all weekend up and down the pit lane. The Team and Renault are confident the fuel supplied to the engine is in full compliance with the regulations.”

The stewards' decision in full:

The Stewards, having received a report from the Technical Delegate, heard from the team representatives, have considered the following matter and determine a breach of the regulations has been committed by the competitor named below and impose the penalty referred to.

No/Driver: 3, Daniel Ricciardo
Competitor: Infiniti Red Bull Racing
Time: 20:17
Session: Race
Facts: Car #3 was not in compliance with article 5.1.4 of the FIA Formula 1 technical tegulations.
Offence: Breach of article 3.2 of the FIA Formula 1 sporting regulations and Article 5.1.4 of the FIA Formula 1 technical regulations.
Decision: Car #3 is excluded from the race results.
Reason:
1) The technical delegate reported to the stewards that car #3 exceeded the required fuel mass flow of 100kg/h. (article 5.1.4 of the Formula 1 technical regulations)

2) This parameter is outside of the control of the driver, Daniel Ricciardo.

3) The fuel flow is measured using the fuel flow sensor (Art. 5.10.3 & 5.10.4 of the technical regulations) which is homologated by the FIA and owned and operated by the team.

4) The stewards considered the history of the fitted fuel flow sensor, as described by the team and the technical delegate's representative who administers the programme. Their description of the history of the sensor matches.

a. During practice one a difference in reading between the first three and run four was detected. The same readings as Run 4 were observed throughout practice two.

b. The team used a different sensor on Saturday but did not get readings that were satisfactory to them or the FIA, so they were instructed to change the sensor within parc ferme on Saturday night.

c. They operated the original sensor during the race, which provided the same readings as run four of practice one, and practice two.

5) The stewards heard from the technical representative that when the sensor was installed on Saturday night, he instructed the team to apply an offset to their fuel flow such that the fuel flow would have been legal. He presented an email to the stewards that verified his instruction.

6) The technical representative stated to the stewards that there is variation in the sensors. However, the sensors fall within a known range, and are individually calibrated. They then become the standard which the teams must use for their fuel flow.

7) The team stated that based on the difference observed between the two readings in P1, they considered the fuel flow sensor to be unreliable. Therefore, for the start of the race they chose to use their internal fuel flow model, rather than the values provided by the sensor, with the required offset.

8) Technical directive 01614 (1 March 2014) provides the methodology by which the sensor will be used, and, should the sensor fail, the method by which the alternate model could be used.

a. The technical directive starts by stating: "The homologated fuel flow sensor will be the primary measurement of the fuel flow and will be used to check compliance with articles 5.1.4 and 5.1.5 of the F1 technical regulations..." This is in conformity with articles 5.10.3 and 5.10.4 of the technical regulations.

b. The technical directive goes on to state: "If at any time WE consider that the sensor has an issue which has not been detected by the system WE will communicate this to the team concerned and switch to a back-up system."
(emphasis added.)

c. The back-up system is the calculated fuel flow model with a correction factor decided by the FIA.

9) The FIA technical representative observed thought the telemetry during the race that the fuel flow was too high and contacted the team, giving them the opportunity to follow his previous instruction, and reduce the fuel flow such that it was within the limit, as measured by the homologated sensor - and thus gave the team the opportunity to be within compliance. The team chose not to make this correction.

10) Under Art. 3.2 of the sporting regulations it is the duty of the team to ensure compliance with the technical regulations throughout the event.

Thus the stewards find that:

A) The team chose to run the car using their fuel flow model, without direction from the FIA. This is a violation of the procedure within TD/01614.

B) That although the sensor showed a difference in readings between runs in P1, it remains the homologated and required sensor against which the team is obliged to measure their fuel flow, unless given permission by the FIA to do otherwise.

C) The stewards were satisfied by the explanation of the technical representative that by making an adjustment as instructed, the team could have run within the allowable fuel flow.

D) That regardless of the team's assertion that the sensor was fault, it is not within their discretion to run a different fuel flow measurement method without the permission of the FIA.

The stewards find that car #3 was out of compliance with the technical regulations and is therefore excluded from the results of the race.

schubert (Thanks to F1 )

Respect for them who did read this Cool

16.03.2014, 17:09

Re: Formula 1 General Chat & Discussion

CONSTRUCTORS CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER 1 RACE :

McLaren 33 points
Mercedes 25 points
Ferrari 18 points
Williams 10 points
Force India 9 points
Toro Rosso 6 points

16.03.2014, 17:06

Re: Formula 1 General Chat & Discussion

DRIVERS CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER 1 RACE :

N. Rosberg GER Mercedes 25 points
K. Magnussen DEN McLaren 18 points
J. Button GBR McLaren 15 points
F. Alonso ESP Ferrari 12 points
V. Bottas FIN Williams 10 points
N. Hulkenberg GER ForceIndia 8 points
K. Raikkonen FIN Ferrari 6 points
J.E. Vergne FRA ToroRosso 4 points
D. Kvyat RUS ToroRosso 2 points
A. Sutil GER Sauber 1 point

16.03.2014, 16:28

Re: Formula 1 General Chat & Discussion

Ricciardo DisQ.
Car has used more fuel than the allowed 100kg per hour.

16.03.2014, 10:37

Re: Formula 1 General Chat & Discussion

In reply to 'Shaky' ...
Yes ... and No ...
With new cars and new rules it's a big step into the unknown for everybody.
I was surprised so many cars made it to the end ... and that may crucial. After a certain point most were aiming to finish rather than to race.

Two highlights for me:-
Kevin Magnussen - Excellent drive for someone new to F1. A future champion?
Valtteri Bottas - Getting Willams more points in this race than they had in the whole 2013 season.
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