Now on ETV - The current show

It is a storm in a teacup.
Stronger dog f....
They think where the money is all there is.

Slowfox wrote:

BornExtreme wrote:....Who pays, in my opinion, must have at least the decency to don't require an exclusive show in a NightShow...

errrrhhh .... what ???

I do not like the ELS in the nightshows, but don't you ask a little too much ? At least one can say who pays makes the rules. The ELS are an offer, like it or not, and if someone makes use of it, it is his good right to do so.

You are apparently a little misguided as there is no companionship amongst the viewers or any kind of solidarity of those paying for those just viewing. To the contrary, those who pay get sometimes really pissed off by those who enjoy everything for free, or even demand to get everything for free, and still have the guts to complain.

Once we see your messages on screen skipping the word 'exclusive' we will honor and praise of course your decency to pay for all of our entertainment.

The els are ok in the first hour of the nightshow but after that turn the camera off otherwise it kills the shows. I think he should be entitled to ask for his show and I dont know why she was cross she had a phone call also some extra credits made and did a decent els show. she just brought foward the nightshow earlier for him during the boring hour. Its a storm in a teacup.

BornExtreme wrote:....Who pays, in my opinion, must have at least the decency to don't require an exclusive show in a NightShow...

errrrhhh .... what ???

I do not like the ELS in the nightshows, but don't you ask a little too much ? At least one can say who pays makes the rules. The ELS are an offer, like it or not, and if someone makes use of it, it is his good right to do so.

You are apparently a little misguided as there is no companionship amongst the viewers or any kind of solidarity of those paying for those just viewing. To the contrary, those who pay get sometimes really pissed off by those who enjoy everything for free, or even demand to get everything for free, and still have the guts to complain.

Once we see your messages on screen skipping the word 'exclusive' we will honor and praise of course your decency to pay for all of our entertainment.

BornExtreme wrote:< snip >
Who pays, in my opinion, must have at least the decency to don't require an exclusive show in a NightShow.
But they require these exclusives, because ETV push them to do it.
And this distinction between the viewers, is killing even more the product.

I have no data, obviously, but the Nights, or even better, the TV, is very very important for them, because they can advertise all their products.
If you want to destroy that, you want to destroy you.

What products do they advertise on TV that are not on the Internet?

eigentor wrote:

Watcher wrote:Now let's analyse this:- ...

Just your usual nitpicking then...

Let me inform you that the 'paying customers' last night seemed not particularly happy about this new initiative - for various reasons:
Rollo for example didnt like that he would have to pay to see other peoples wishes after he had already sent several himself, Slow was pissed
that he couldnt see Roshana while talking to her and Marcel doesnt seem to have internet at all and wouldnt be able to see anything.

Even though none of them had the 'freeloaders' in mind with their complaints, we still owe them the existence of the nightshow as we know it,
at least yesterday. Of course the usual ETV kissasses will still write their praises to the wall how great it all is.

However, I´m looking forward to read your own opinion about this latest idea...you must be positively thrilled, right ?

Sorry, I dozed off in the boring bit.
To which idea do you refer? Can't be one here ...

Watcher wrote:

BornExtreme wrote:Last night ETV tried again to kill the NightShow.
But they don't understand that without the Nights, there will be no ETV.
They don't understand that they still on air thanks to the Nights.
So, before acting, you should think better.

The problem are also the viewers who requested the exclusive.
Shame on you.

Now let's analyse this:-

ETV have access to data on numbers of calls, call durations, texts received, web messages received, logged in customers viewing habits ...
You have data on ???

Who is in the best position to know just how well ETV are doing?
Whether they use the data accurately or not, they have it; I guess you don't.

"The problem are also the viewers who requested the exclusive."
Actually, they're called paying customers and I guess they think the same about freeloaders

Who pays, in my opinion, must have at least the decency to don't require an exclusive show in a NightShow.
But they require these exclusives, because ETV push them to do it.
And this distinction between the viewers, is killing even more the product.

I have no data, obviously, but the Nights, or even better, the TV, is very very important for them, because they can advertise all their products.
If you want to destroy that, you want to destroy you.

Watcher wrote:Now let's analyse this:- ...

Just your usual nitpicking then...

Let me inform you that the 'paying customers' last night seemed not particularly happy about this new initiative - for various reasons:
Rollo for example didnt like that he would have to pay to see other peoples wishes after he had already sent several himself, Slow was pissed
that he couldnt see Roshana while talking to her and Marcel doesnt seem to have internet at all and wouldnt be able to see anything.

Even though none of them had the 'freeloaders' in mind with their complaints, we still owe them the existence of the nightshow as we know it,
at least yesterday. Of course the usual ETV kissasses will still write their praises to the wall how great it all is.

However, I´m looking forward to read your own opinion about this latest idea...you must be positively thrilled, right ?

BornExtreme wrote:Last night ETV tried again to kill the NightShow.
But they don't understand that without the Nights, there will be no ETV.
They don't understand that they still on air thanks to the Nights.
So, before acting, you should think better.

The problem are also the viewers who requested the exclusive.
Shame on you.

Now let's analyse this:-

ETV have access to data on numbers of calls, call durations, texts received, web messages received, logged in customers viewing habits ...
You have data on ???

Who is in the best position to know just how well ETV are doing?
Whether they use the data accurately or not, they have it; I guess you don't.

"The problem are also the viewers who requested the exclusive."
Actually, they're called paying customers and I guess they think the same about freeloaders

Last night ETV tried again to kill the NightShow.
But they don't understand that without the Nights, there will be no ETV.
They don't understand that they still on air thanks to the Nights.
So, before acting, you should think better.

The problem are also the viewers who requested the exclusive.
Shame on you.

bellerophon:.....
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We are the victims of our fellow viewers.

yes! My many times we read in the "wall" of viewers who are willing to pay - a proposal - ETV in the interest receipts are accepted.
It is shortsighted.
Where will the girls present to find viewers? The breakout room / DT /? Girls, but they do not know that because of their many ads will not see for a while, and it's still not enough. If not viewers will not be advertising. But how long will then ETV?

brokingbull wrote:Forget the current night shows, yes, those after 11 pm!

Hot scenes from now on in exclusives, during the night shows.

at the next Mod meeting I'll ask about the position of etv in this forum.
if etv use the fta shows for advertisement only it will be the best to move all etv threads to [hidden link - please register].

PS: are the webshows during the complete night show or only in the first "hot" (what's the word for lauwarm?) hour?

Previously I had assumed that the next step ETV in their quest earn more money would be:
the free online reserved shows will change on to pay about 2 credits abt.
But their greed now is much bolder than my most bad expectations.
The introduction of paid ELS even for night this is a funeral
for the free TV shows with naked models.

logic wrote:It seems now it's happen finally..................also night show wishes will be shown only in exclusive?

Hmm.........maybe fair for the payers of the wishes, but definitely the death for the night shows.

What a pity!

What is fair? This new exclusive works only with the envy of the viewer (or some) and should bring etv more money. Every vip-exclusive-wish support this.
I dont understand this vip-exclusive senders. Bevore if only 10 viewers send wishes, I dont know how many different viewers send vips, than every viewer see 10 shows for 1 vip and now if he or she want to see all 10 shows, they pay 1 vip and had to pay 9 credits extra for all the other shows. This is fair only for etv. With more and more vip-exclusive-shows it would better and better only for etv.

This system is absolutly fair, but only for etv.

My feeleing is that there where less vips in the first hour and the girls are talking less time. So it could be a backfire for etv.

they wrote this:

""One person pays for something which is being watched from all the other for absolutely free. In (fta) TV we’ve accepted this injustice simply because there is anything (sic) we can do about it."

One more time lying.

All tv-viewers who send vips will be very glad to hear:

"If you want to see what you just paid for then switch on your fuckin... pc and have a look there, if you are a member of course. It's very easy."