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LeahLuv wrote:[quote='WILSONSAND']

You´re welcome

But why deciding to post Bad speeches from here ( And present it like a new trophy) if there are so many of it from here

And why do you think I did like your post, did I push the Like button..Mhhhhh... Nope!

i know you didn´t like it it was an irony and i know perfectly well you are not one of those guys that i can find in my Like button, i don´t expect you doing so. If it makes so many answers like this, i will post new bad speeches, because it´s funny to see how fast the white knight fan jump here to save the honor of her beloved lady, because it keeps this forum alive, because i think discussion is something good, because i do whatever i want and even more when someone try to say to me "why to post it"...many reasons, you see. And "if there are so many of it here", i will contribute to this great collection . I posted that video and i will post more if i find them and i want to do it. I guess i´ve answered you.

Watcher wrote:Are you participating in these actions or just waiting for the outcome?

It depends on how the day goes.
Sometimes I'm so naive as to believe than sending or writing fair criticism outlining what in my opinion is working and not is a good idea.

Also, consider what I previously wrote: unlike some, I'm not going to die if ETV shuts down, so nobody pays me for that and my patience on the aforementioned matter is definitely finite.

WILSONSAND wrote:

LeahLuv wrote:

Mr_Niceguy wrote:And yet you were all looking I guess if there would be some surprise it would be an awful shame to miss it...

Yep! And it seems,some just watching for hopefully catching a lapse from a "special" model.
And guess,someone did found something and postet immediately here for demonstrate what a bad bad girly she is.
What a suprise

hahahahha!! thank you for this post. I will tell you something. I rarely watch the night shows because it´s very low quality and the casts. And if Karry is on, even worse, because i am one of the guys who defends the shows are worse if Karry is on the studio. Unfortunately to me, she is in night shows almost always (i think she should be joining dayime with her friend Jessica). Yesterday i took a look at the show because it was Roshana there, and i like her, and i was curious about Ava new decision commented here of no more nudity. So, i watched the show for a while, no more than 20 minutes after i gave up, and i found what Karry said, one more of the usually bad speeches from her, and i decided to post it especially because her answer to the nudity only in webshows. Being honest, it´s not so difficult to find something to post from Karry that leaves her in a bad position.

I see you liked my post , don´t worry, i won´t look for more, but if i find another one, (and that´s easy) and i have time to do it, i will post it here, because there is no other girl with so bad combination of bad behaviour + bad night shows than her, and so vehement defenders here, and that is funny to me

You´re welcome

But why deciding to post Bad speeches from here ( And present it like a new trophy) if there are so many of it from here

And why do you think I did like your post, did I push the Like button..Mhhhhh... Nope!

Chris26 wrote:

Tarl_Cabot wrote:

Chris26 wrote:Sure, if you write one.

Mr_Niceguy wrote:If I am asking you why you watch what you don't like...?

Weird, I thought he was rhetorically saying why he was reading what he didn't like.

Short answer, ETV was in a certain way, now it's in another. I want to see if it's possible to bring it back (at least partially) the way it was.

If yes, cool.

If no, people react differently: there are those who shrug their shoulders and walk away and those who try to change things.

Are you participating in these actions or just waiting for the outcome?

LeahLuv wrote:

Mr_Niceguy wrote:And yet you were all looking I guess if there would be some surprise it would be an awful shame to miss it...

Yep! And it seems,some just watching for hopefully catching a lapse from a "special" model.
And guess,someone did found something and postet immediately here for demonstrate what a bad bad girly she is.
What a suprise

hahahahha!! thank you for this post. I will tell you something. I rarely watch the night shows because it´s very low quality and the casts. And if Karry is on, even worse, because i am one of the guys who defends the shows are worse if Karry is on the studio. Unfortunately to me, she is in night shows almost always (i think she should be joining dayime with her friend Jessica). Yesterday i took a look at the show because it was Roshana there, and i like her, and i was curious about Ava new decision commented here of no more nudity. So, i watched the show for a while, no more than 20 minutes after i gave up, and i found what Karry said, one more of the usually bad speeches from her, and i decided to post it especially because her answer to the nudity only in webshows. Being honest, it´s not so difficult to find something to post from Karry that leaves her in a bad position.

I see you liked my post , don´t worry, i won´t look for more, but if i find another one, (and that´s easy) and i have time to do it, i will post it here, because there is no other girl with so bad combination of bad behaviour + bad night shows than her, and so vehement defenders here, and that is funny to me

timfrance wrote:

WILSONSAND wrote:i won´t describe and i won´t comment it, It speaks for itself:

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Excuse me but I can't see a single thing that has been wrong here

Karry responds to a guy who freely insults her, and without even giving his name. So ?

where is the insult? the fact she even admited that she is only naked in the webshow or the sentence about she wants money for nothing when is a fact she does nothing?

Let me say that it is difficult to watch the NS from months, even with the best intentions, and derive satisfaction from what we are witnessing ... This applies even when there is no Carrie & C. ... The problem is the quality in general .. that some Etv fans say to the old plaintive members to change the channel, I can understand it.. although it seems to me, saying this with respect and courtesy, a way to do ostriches .... or who cleans a room by putting the dust under the carpet .... probably you, Etv fans, you have become too "corporatists", you write as speak the politicians! It may be that both we and you have reason, the reason is often in the middle since that new members have the same negative feelings... but the facts of which many complain are indisputable, at the moment ... And even new members write in that way ... In that, you are always entrenched, in turn, behind the simple phrase "simply, don't watch it (the NS).." etc etc... And my choice to write no more assiduously here stems from this, as well as my post which, coincidentally, just the same people (accidentally or deliberately? Mmmh ...) starting by one of you.. translated in a very personal way by extrapolating a sentence, at his convenience, in a long context ... In any other forum, at least one mod would seek a clarification, instead of siding an "I like" for.him....first time in a 6-7 forum where I occasionally write in..and are many more those I wrote in the years.. Probably here there are different rules...I accept these ones...but I hope that something will change.... Regards

Tarl_Cabot wrote:

Chris26 wrote:Sure, if you write one.

Mr_Niceguy wrote:If I am asking you why you watch what you don't like...?

Weird, I thought he was rhetorically saying why he was reading what he didn't like.

Short answer, ETV was in a certain way, now it's in another. I want to see if it's possible to bring it back (at least partially) the way it was.

If yes, cool.

If no, people react differently: there are those who shrug their shoulders and walk away and those who try to change things.

Chris26 wrote:Sure, if you write one.

Mr_Niceguy wrote:If I am asking you why you watch what you don't like...?

WILSONSAND wrote:i won´t describe and i won´t comment it, It speaks for itself:

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Excuse me but I can't see a single thing that has been wrong here

Karry responds to a guy who freely insults her, and without even giving his name. So ?

Mr_Niceguy wrote:I love ETV for it's unique proposition, for this same reason you seem to hate it (at least so it seems from every single one of your posts).

Fair enough. I liked ETV a lot until let's say about a year ago, and I hate what it's become and what it's becoming.

Mr_Niceguy wrote:For you there are many other places to find what you want (I think). I only have ETV. Your useless malignant posting is harming what I love so I come to it's defense.

Thanks for the "useless" and "malignant", first of all. I could answer saying that I think your posts, both here and on the wall, are mawkish and sad, if you want to put the discussion on this level.

Mr_Niceguy wrote:I have tried looking the other way and I hardly posted for a year or even more, but the state of the forum right now is in my humble opinion so deteriorated I can no longer look the other way.

And what "threat" do I pose to the channel?
If, like so many members like you said, we are just a humble minority who only cry because we can't get stuff for free anymore (and that couldn't be farther from the truth because my spending for ETV in all this time is quite big) and ETV is thriving and everything is going well, what is your problem?
Just enjoy the channel that you like and you shouldn't have problems, right?

I write what I think are the problems with the channel right now because I'm curious to see what is the general idea and what are the different points of view, not necessarily to change them or to pay attention to them (because in all this time mine have cemented quite a bit).
If I don't like a certain model's behaviour, yes, I will write it whenever I want and I'll agree with all those who share the same opinion. I certainly am not wasting my time posting (or I wouldn't post).

And if you say "If you don't like, just switch the channel" (which, by the way, is what ETV always say), thanks but no, first I want to see if it's possible to delete some of those changes so that it might come back the way it was.
I'm actually curious if there is a single member here, outside of those whose only interest is to speak with their favourite model, who believes that ETV right now is better than how it was in the past.

On one point you're right, though: should the channel close tomorrow, definitely I wouldn't curl up into a ball in a dark corner and cry myself to sleep.

Mr_Niceguy wrote:So now that I answered your question, can you answer mine?

Sure, if you write one.

Chris26 wrote:

Mr_Niceguy wrote:I am simply pointing out the obvious that an easy solution to the problem of having to watch something you don't wanna see is not to watch,

For the same reasoning, if you don't like a post here you can simply ignore it, right?

There is not only Karry in the nightshows, anyway, although you lot all seem to be funneling that thought.

Heh Chris, for the first time you raise a point of interest, so thanks and congratulations.

If I am asking you why you watch what you don't like then why am I reading what I don't like?

The answer however is simple. I love ETV for it's unique proposition, for this same reason you seem to hate it (at least so it seems from every single one of your posts). For you there are many other places to find what you want (I think). I only have ETV. Your useless malignant posting is harming what I love so I come to it's defense. I have tried looking the other way and I hardly posted for a year or even more, but the state of the forum right now is in my humble opinion so deteriorated I can no longer look the other way.

So now that I answered your question, can you answer mine?

CommanderData wrote:

LeahLuv wrote:

Mr_Niceguy wrote:And yet you were all looking I guess if there would be some surprise it would be an awful shame to miss it...

Yep! And it seems,some just watching for hopefully catching a lapse from a "special" model.
And guess,someone did found something and postet immediately here for demonstrate what a bad bad girly she is.
What a suprise

Sorry, but I have to tell you that you are both totally wrong . . . since months I dont watch nightshows anymore when Karry is in the cast, and I am sure I am not the only one. Scenes like the one caught by Wilson yesterday have always been there when she is on, so I dont wonder . . .I just dont want to see it anymore, as long as she is there etv lost me as a potential costumer.

Btw.: you dont have to search to "find something" to prove how bad minded she is, she delivers it all the time . . . you must be blind not to see it

I just wonder why guys like you always defend her? She neither has any show talent at all, she cant even dance properly, nor is she eminently attractive with her stupid and ugly tatoos all over, her buck teeth and her hollow back. Beside this she refuses to fulfill even reasonable wishes, insults costumers und destroys every nightshow she is in, not to mention her lack of respect to the other models, like e.g. we have seen at the occasion with Tia. At every other workplace she would have been fired long ago, there were multiple occurrences which had required to dismiss her inmediately, if there would be a respectable and reasonable leadership at etv. But for whatever reasons she can do whatever she wants . . .

I wish all you defenders to have a daughter or a girlfriend like her . .. you will get a lot of fun

Normally I give every model unconditional respect that every human being deserves, regardless if I like her or not, but not to her anymore . . .

Data

You don´t have to be sorry

And you´re doing the right thing,don´t watch if she´s on air. Keep going
I´m watching just a few min. a week, and I don´t have to cry here
It´s just Bad luck for you, that she is still in the nightshow.

Oh, I have my fun! Reading some post here can be very funny

@all

She does not like the NS! it has always been like this since the beginning. go back to her first NS and you will find this in her words
she prefers the web
it is so easy: leave Karry only on the web. Give her a full day per week (exlusive, simple premium, double premium, premium extra). leave her the keys of the studio, let her be supported by her favourites director/director

There will be
- an happy model
- happy fans who will spend even more credits
- happy non-fans (of karry) who will finally enjoy the NS

Ivo, Ilja wake up! if you loose also karry how do you buy your bread?

Tarl_Cabot wrote:sorry but you are posting a mirror for yourself because Mr_Niceguy answered to a post that was writen for him.

That was precisely my point, it's a loop from which there is no exit.
Which is why I think that posting just "Why do you always complain?" is useless, while "I don't agree with your complaints because..." is useful.