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the wish for free last night was not good. Why they take a girl in a premium show that not going nude?
i dont understand this. Zoe was many to shy and for someone i will not pay money. I"ve seen many wish for free in the last time, but that was my last I think. I"m not ready to pay 8 Euros for seeing this kind of soft show. Also the camera was repeatly not good enough. |
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It's hard with ETV for all.
The girls are hampered by censorship. The spectator sees always the same program. |
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There is a saying in Germany:
many cooks spoil the mush! |
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@kennyboy
your mc donald sample was nice, but it had to big mistakes. The 1. if I go to mcd I know exactly (worldwide) what I got for my money. At etv I know they show the sms on tv and plasma and all other is just a surprise. Would you go to mcd if you know: I got the boxes and if a burger, chesse or double or what else is in, depends on the mood of the crew. I think no one would go to mcd and pay a penny. The 2. the storemanager was in the mcd hierarchy nothing. In etv it was less then the moderator for the show. And I know the customer opinion in the mcd world had much more weight than at etv site. Two columns of selling are trust and respect. Both are lack at etv. For me, the lack of firm and long time rules and the absend of respect to the customer are the biggest problems of etv. The last example for lack of respect was the deleting of the videos without any notice before, or got someone a notice that they rewrite the offer for videos. You have right that etv must sell a lot to make money. But what they do is only money driven and thinking from day to day. I see no longtime strategy. Untill today etv found enough robots and apes for their income. With more rules and respect it could be more. |
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also we all know kennyboy you are an etv plug just like wk on wall and joyous messages
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I agree with zxcv don't give them a dime they don/t care about there customers and mr kennyboy your analogy of mc donalds is flawed they care about customers while etv do not and for the record I spent tons of money on lauren and keira and the past on Sabrina they treated my request on the last days of keira like crap and the same for lauren so don't some of us that have watched for years we have to be censored or not heard they won't receive criticism so no more money
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For sure arguing you had and will always have no value ….but let's give it a try…. But Again I could assure that as usual you are losing the argument…..
In terms of the right of complaining while ceasing spending …. FirstIy , I gave a reason for my suspending of spending …I exactly said …I figure out that their system is not credible enough ( that's a big issue no time to discuss it here ) ….they had and still have a huge credibility problem and therefore there is no chance to get part in this non credible system Secondly , If your logic is that the one who has to the right to complain is the one who spends his money …. Well , I can give you a long list including names of a real and old customers of ETV ….who used to spend and still spending their money and while claiming that they are being deceived from ETV side ... .....So the idea is not discussing who has the right to speak and who is not …the idea is discussing how the the whole system is being operated ...And how this way of mismanagement has deeply affected the outcome of the whole system ..... My logic was simple …..At this critical time in ETV world …..During this complete chaotic situation....I call everyone to think before he spends his money …and to think after he spent his money ….what he got in return . Did he had enough respect … Did he have a clear vision for their…. guideline….. rules…. Regulations ….For their prohibitions Did they ever seriously take into account some FAIR CRITISM, ideas, recommendations, advices……. or they always treat their customers as minors who has no right even to let their posts being published without editing !!!!!!!! ......The answer is ……Neither , nor , nor ........ So , Clearly they drawn the lines for us ( their customers ) exactly as we used to be and still just a brainless robots For my part , I refused to be treated as a robot.....To be programmed the way they want me …OR.. to see the other fellow being treated that way ...Therefore my call for everyone , to think before he spends a cent and to take an action in this very critical time …… was completely justified. On the other hand …..Now we have a huge shift …the system is completely being changed in favor of the web (And I think u are a big supporter of that direction you never leave a post of yours without announcing your rut for the night exclusives ) …. As a fan and I would say I have the right to refuse this new direction and I explained in brief my reasons for not accepting all of these new stupid policies and strategies which will destroy the channel and will shortly make everybody gives them his back …… And naturally , there is nothing wrong with that …..This is a free forum for all the opinions and ………Not exclusive only for your ..." exclusives discussions and propaganda"  .So that was all about the discussion of today ……And I won't say you are losing the argument…I will leave it to the whole community around to decide which one who had the upper hand . But what is clear…… you still want to exchange insults as you always like to do with me ….But I have never did that with any fellow member her in the forum ....so next time you want to discuss me you have to keep manner and discuss me with respect . Last but not least ….. And for the insults which tacitly included in your post against me …..I would say I would not go the same as u did….. I will just leave to the Mods to decide which action could be done . |
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Medic!
hang on, you say you decided at the start, not to give them a cent. So you having this big meltdown about a product that you do not purchase? an analogy: you go to your nearest McDonalds (as an example, its a good one because we all know McDonalds), so you walk into McDonalds and ask for the manager, and you complain about the food. He asks you what you have bought? You reply that you haven't bought anything and that you decided at the start, never to buy their food. Now, this may surprise you but I suspect the manager may think you're either having a joke with him, or you're just plainly an idiot that needs help. I've read a few posts from persons that claim they have never, nor will ever pay for anything on ETV, and I wonder, How can they complain about something that they have only received for free? I have had a difference of opinion with quite a few on here, but mostly with those that have actually spent money on ETV. we all have different opinions, that is good. they all have equal value. except someone complaining about something they have never paid for. To me, that's either taking the piss, or just plain mad, or just posting for the sake of it. Shakes head in disbelief  I have had discussions with ETV, and they are aware of this forum, and they opinion is that its full of complaints and people just complaining and slating the site. I have pointed out that there's quite a lot of good points and post made here, and yes, there are some quite useless posts. needless to say, have a wild guess which yours is
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Slowfox wrote:Why so aggressive ? @ slow You mean I was somehow enthusiastic ….but Aggressive no , no …Especially with the old friends Thanks for sharing your friendly replay …even though I intended to stress some views and direct the discussion to another direction but I would respect your desire not to start a useless discussion about the current situation . @ all Since the first time I watched ETV I took the decision not to spend a cent with them ….in fact My problem wasn't the money …But their system which was and still not credible enough …there was no clear rules where to start and when to stop…what is available and what is not . therefore I decided to stay away from this system . However , For a long time I have argued them to fix this credibility problem …. And in turn will positively reflected on the outcome of their income..And still got no answer . Having said that I got to say ….. The situation in the past was somehow acceptable and that why we live with it ….yes ….there were stupid decisions, wild dreams and sudden changes from the east to the west… there were no credible system…But in total the situation was acceptable Now their dreams became even wilder … their decisions became totally illogical… and we have turned into just only as a receivers …we have to accepted their fuckin changes …nothing else . .....The situation became totally chaotic …Nothing except chaos …. However what still amused me is that ......they still being able to control this totally chaotic scene, and direct the masses of their fans to the direction which services their interest ….there is no question And Now I came to the conclusion … They definitely treat us as a brainless creatures who definitely has no brain , no intelligence , no will , nothing ….They just succeeded to turn us to robots which will be programmed exactly the way they wanted . Speaking about the human qualities….. I strongly believe ….if only five or ten of you whom used to regularly spend their money decide to take a positive step …would have the guts ....and stay away from them …that would make deference If everyone would think that he should think a little bit about getting out of this fantasy world for only a while …with no doubt that would make a deference . .....The next day you will see that they surely will start to pay attention to what is going on in the other side ….But only then they will realize that the robots whom they have created ....have finally WAKE UP and started for the first time ……To question them.... what exactly they are doing ..And should be done , what is not ? to agree or disagree with my views …. I have already decided to leave this fantasy world …. I have decided not to live with their wild dreams anymore …. I have decided not to be a robot whom would be programmed with their data where to act and when exactly to cease my actions . if anybody wants to JOIN ME …he's welcome ….But please don't try to convince me that the whole situation is beyond our control … No the whole situation is controllable at least we can decide to get out of this world . Brothers ...... it's up to us not to them . |
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zxcv wrote:Slowfox wrote:Just to asnwer these two questions. Why so aggressive ? Frankly, I was just giving an answer to somebody who seemed to be a little puzzled of the schedule. But I figure I have stressed your intelligence, thus please accept my sincere apologies for under estimating you. And for my opinion ? Well, it is too humble as to have any value. Don't get me wrong I have mine, but I really do not feel to share it with everybody anymore. Case I have an issue with ETV I clarify it with them direct rather then writing big words here. Having some coffee now to enjoy a sunny day on my terrace. And tonite I will have the pleasure .... 
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Slowfox wrote:Just to asnwer these two questions. Fair enough ....... And reasonable enough sir ..........But I must assure you that was understandable from the beginning...Thanks for the tireless efforts of the others fellow who always provide us the schedule  So my question in the first place did had a Repudiation nature ....In other meaning .....Why should the bellow mentioned stars ( I think we can count in one hand how many real star remains in ETV world ) had to go the other business while the first business was in huge need to their services ...SO that was the meaning beyond the question !!!!!! But on the other side u didn't give a real fair and reasonable explanations as you always done when it comes to the complete state of chaos inside ETV ....That's what really matters now.......And that's in return what should " MUST" be given a real and reasonable explanation around it . |
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zxcv wrote:Some fair questions about last night's show : Just to answer these two questions. Saya & Tia: They both were only in the internet show. These internet shows Friday night are completely separated from the TV shows and thus you did not see them on TV Effy: She was already in the evening show filling in for Jasmine in the TV night show, who moved to the internet show replacing Lauren who dropped out on rather short notice. This happening the girl filling in is allowed to leave after 2 or 3 hours into the night show, respectively after 8 to 9 hours of total work. That explains Effy's sudden disappearance. |
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Some fair questions about last night's show :
- Where were Tia And saya last night ...... - And I wonder why Effy suddenly disappeared from the show last night . - I also wonder why nearly all the newbies ( Bunny ,Destiny , Effy) had set their limits for the topless level ...No more No less .....But lets come to the most interesting question ...... Why ETV has spent the whole year of 2015 trying to convince us to live with their new stupid Ambitions and stratiges for the web . let's say it .........No ETV ......Again No ................. Neither We will live with your fuckin stupid Ambitions and strategies for the future .....Nor we will accept this permanent state of Chaos and inability to provide a real acceptable system which could preserve the fame of the old reputable TV channel which was called EUROTIC TV |
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paradise wrote:Very good Tuesday NS, excellent work from camera teams. Maybe you've never watched at a few years ago show, otherwise you'd never posted these your impressions  Regards |
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All the shows, now, unfortunately, are not interesting.......
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