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kennyboy2012 wrote:the only good thing so far is that Saiqa hasn't shaved below for a few days, we so need a few girls with a nice level of growth below, like Tallona

I wonder how many other viewers like girls with a big bush down below. I personally prefer a clean shave. My problem with pubic hair is that it is so permanent. It is not just there for the duration of a 5-10 minute show but it will be there all the time. Wishing girls not to shave is, therefore, something like a permanent wish, like wanting a girl to wear stockings in every show and for the entire duration of them. I think you need some backing by a fair proportion of the viewers to be able to justify wishing that girls do not shave. The only occasion where I saw hair lovers win a poll was on another site, but there each vote cost the voter about one euro. Then you only need a few determined hair lovers with a big purse to tip the balance. How about a poll here?

I agree in part and disagree in part.

Firstly, I assume you were sending a number of the negative messages last night, and based on that assumption:

The censorship was similar to last week, not quite the same but close, and certainly more revealing than normal shows, and I do think that last week was more revealing that normal Friday shows even. Zoe sitting on the bed with legs wide open and the camera staring straight at her pink palace, she couldn't have been more revealing
I thought the lighting was good, certainly much better than some exclusives this week
Yes, in some ways, the show is losing the sparkle it started with, I have already said this both here and on the wall. the show needs a boost, something to add a new flavour, hence all the suggestions by myself and others. They may not be great ideas to some, but they are ideas to think about.
The problem with the FFW show is that its pretty much done everything they can think of to do, the requests have all been done before, they are all variations on previous ideas, and most of the girls have done the shows an awful lot too. It used to be a great show, but its now starting to become not good, and its time to give it a makeover.

But the one thing that really doesn't help anyone, and indeed makes it worse, is the constant negative messages. Yes, |I can understand and appreciate if someone doesn't see what they want, but to send in the messages that we saw last night, is just going to dampen the atmosphere and make the shows worse. Imagine your at work and you boss is standing over your shoulder, constantly telling you you're rubbish and no good. Its bound to get to you sooner or later and make you less good,
You say the girls were superb as always last night (I agree) and yet you send them messages saying how bad the show is and its no good etc. The girls are going to read them and its bound to affect them and make them feel like they are doing a bad job, regardless of where you put the blame.

and as for the number of negative messages: of the ones I saw, a few had a name but a lot did not, and so may all be from the same person, and if they cant or don't put their name, then they shouldn't be displayed.

If a show is that bad, then watch for the first hour, and if you don't like it, leave and ask for a refund. you cant stay and watch the whole show and then ask for a refund, that's daft. If this was a meal in a restaurant, you wouldn't eat the whole meal and then complain that it was inedible and awful, you'd stop eating as soon as you knew it was awful.
I do think that if you log out of the show after a short period and then go and complain, then potentially you can argue for a refund.

but whinging all the way through a show just puts a dampener on it for everyone, for the other viewers and especially the girls, and that's not going to improve it and will certainly make it worse.

As I've said, I think the negative messages of the type last night, should be vetted out, and all messages should have a username automatically added. Messages that point out errors or ask for something that hasn't been done, are fine, for example: ' Can the lights be brighter' but just negative messages like 'the lighting is crap, its rubbish' is not helpful at all.

I do agree that they need more substance to the show. and I've made suggestions, one was that every hour or 90mins, the girls change the theme and change costumes. that might help. Currently, they get naked almost straight away and pretty much stay naked. theres no tease, and that would help the show a lot.

but please, of you are just going to post negative messages on a show, please think twice, and if you don't like the show, which may be understandable, then leave and ask for a refund, or at least message with positive ideas: more ' can we have more lighting' and less ' the lighting is crap' positivity breeds more chance of agreement, than negativity which breeds conflict.

A lot of what you say is fair comment, but its overshadowed by the displayed negative messages that just throw water on any sparkle of hope in the show.

and for me, I think ETV should vet the messages better, rather than throwing the girls to their mercy like they do. ETV are wrong for doing that..

Message to the wall.

Friday Energy Mix.

My opinion certainly does not interest you, but I give it to you.Your message last week, said that money did not interest you, why not to make free shows?Every Friday before show, I'm positive.I said to me, this evening I do not send negative messages. Unfortunately circumstances are disadvantageous, I'm not going to respect my commitments. One more time it was a disaster.The beginning was encouraging, as always. But very quickly doubt came to become established.As always there was a cruel lack of brightness which destroyed any hope of appreciating show.Then, an extreme censure.Censure by ETV and censure by the girls (girls have certainly received very strict guidelines).A question turned in my mind,am I the only one who is disappointed?The many negative messages on the screen made me understand not.Many people were disappointed.Despite this, your stubbornness and pride prevented you from changing direction.The girls were superb as always, but show was empty, flavorless, flavourless, without pleasure.A lot of sequences were without any interests, erotism was nonexistent.Certainly in the studio, with overview show was very good.But we simple customers, have only our small screen, small numerical frame which you fill.Unfortunately you do not see farther than the end of your nose.Unquestionably cameramans and technicians enjoy,but you always forget your customers.You have raise some of my wishes,it was discouraging to die.Certain rare hot sequences do not save show.To conclude, I lost four credits and four hours of sleep.But as always my opinion does not interest you.What more can be said?

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have to say, yes some shows are better than others, but why send in messages telling them its a bad show and negative messages like that, those messages wont change anything except to negatively affect the girls and possibly have a negative effect on the show, which then makes it worse for everyone else.
Just no need and no point.

grrrrrrrr

yes, it is a shame. I was hoping Destiny might pop in, and to be honest, it was the only reason I paid for the FFW show this week. The way ETV work, they would send her over without announcing it and then wonder why anyone got annoyed at missing it, hence paying for the show just in case.
But I specifically haven't asked this week by message. theres been enough requests via the wall, so they certainly know that a few of us want to see her.
the only good thing so far is that Saiqa hasn't shaved below for a few days, we so need a few girls with a nice level of growth below, like Tallona

I do get frustrated with ETV, sometimes they will listen to ideas and use them, such as 'Terry's' idea for a blue dark studio on Friday evening, and in fairness a few other ideas but they so need to freshen up the FFW and there's been a number of good ideas and suggestions, and yet its still the same show that was great at first, but is now starting to become a bit stale.

One things that does soooo annoy me about the FTA show, is the constant voiceovers, some of the voces are quite brief, but some just seem to talk and talk and talk, pausing to think what to say and then talking again. God I want to slap them sometimes

TazDevil wrote:Dacota is making some very hot shows tonight. Saiqa and Kia seem a little coy, but maybe they will perform out of the darkness as the show progresses.

Show is very discouraging.Too dark and very censored!!!I wait more!!!

It doesn't look like any other models are going to get a WFF tryout tonight, but maybe that's a good thing because with such a model shortage it would have too much impact on TV land. It is a shame because I was hoping Effy would drop in and drop her panties! (In my dreams!).

Dacota is making some very hot shows tonight. Saiqa and Kia seem a little coy, but maybe they will perform out of the darkness as the show progresses.

cm888 wrote:Friday's WFF has a constant streaming problem for the first hour or so where it constantly stops and starts. They must be aware of this. Tv show works fine as does all other sources.

Yes, this has been an issue for weeks, I've messaged them a number of times about it. seems to be about 30-40minutes of random freezing in normal exclusives, and it lasts longer on Fridays. its a right pain in the arse and effectively loses us 20% of the show.

I suspect their system just cant cope with the surge at the start of the shows

I did suggest start the streaming 10-15mins before the show to allow members to log in early and I think they tried it a few times and it did improve it a little bit when they did that, but its still a huge pain on the arse.

Friday's WFF has a constant streaming problem for the first hour or so where it constantly stops and starts. They must be aware of this. Tv show works fine as does all other sources.

TazDevil wrote:... is Kelly the right model for that show on a night when extra viewers may watch because of the Black Friday promotion? Surely they should schedule their hottest models that night....

Dacota needs only a little bit makeup on her scar and different hairstyle and ETV can put her in the WFF show as Kelly.


I'm wondering that they never made this joke until now....

Maybe Kelly accepted to be more exposed and explicit, who knows and maybe the same request was done to Tara, Marla and Penelope...

The provisional schedule for next week has Jasmine, Kelly and Saiqa allocated to the Friday Wish For Free show. Unless ETV are planning to change the show that night, is Kelly the right model for that show on a night when extra viewers may watch because of the Black Friday promotion? Surely they should schedule their hottest models that night, so those who take up the discounted show get hooked by a great show and come back the following week to spend credits at full cost!

GaretJax wrote:

kennyboy2012 wrote:in regards to 'the girl next door' I do think there are a few that are girl next door, and a few that are clearly not. Sidra is clearly a pro, Zoe, I don't know (but with that body, I really really don't mind ) whereas Yoko and Destiny, I would suggest are 'girl next door' girls, but this is just guess work on my part, I don't honestly know.
But then, if a pro can portray herself as the 'girl next door' then for me, it doesn't really matter that much, we buy into the illusion, into the fantasy, into the escape of our own reality, to enjoy the girls for the times that we watch,
but that's just my view

I'd agree with much of this (especially the part about Sidra being clearly a pro). Given that we aren't likely ever to meet the models the reality of whether they've previously worked in this or a related industry doesn't worry me. Their appearance and, most importantly, willingness to make an effort is what matters most to me. As an example, for me the contrast between Lauren and Marla is huge. Whereas objectively in terms of looks there might not be much in it, Lauren seems to enjoy what she does. That in itself makes her shows more enjoyable to me. Marla seems much more ambivalent, which I can respect but, at least for me, it makes her appearances somewhat uncomfortable. Rightly or wrongly I would put both in the 'girl next door' category but one of them seems to have so much more fun. I would guess that I'm not alone in preferring the performances where the models seem to be enjoying themselves.

I too like the 'girl next door' models, and would put Effy and Isadora in this category. My suspicion is that from time to time a new model joins and fits it straight away, then speaks to her friends and colleagues about the safe well paid job she has found, resulting in other like minded, similar background girls giving it a go. Resulting in a batch of students, dancers, strippers, Webcam performers, etc. Joining the ETV cast around the same time. I have no evidence of this, it just feels that way when you review the timeline.

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