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Rialpka, has anybody said Karry should be "forced" to do more than other girls? of course not. She can do a show or not. She prefers not doing it. Ok, but there is a big difference between Karry in nightshows and Karry in webshows, at least until now, there is no need to explanation as everybody knows it. Karry has done very good ELS in the past, and not so far past, even i sent sms to her to thank her!, so it´s not a crazy thing expecting a "little show" from her. The other day she said she could do "lot of things" if are "right wished", so.... she can or not? Maybe you are happy seing models doing nothing, congratulations if it´s so... but i prefer the opposite.
 She choses this way. I only said i give a great value to those who does the opposite, something wrong with that?And yes, i don´t want her in night shows because she is not willing to contribute to the show in any way, it´s a completely different thing. @watcher, i am in topic, you don´t (again) With answers like yours, i would write it thousand times again with pleasure... You can try not reading me, right?
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Wilsonsand wrote:150 minutes of complete boredom again...oh, sorry, 136 minutes right now .This should not be called "shows", a girl doing nothing but speaking for sure is not a show. I agree with Chris completely. This "shows" depend on the models, some of them are willing to make "shows" and some not. Those who are not willing make useless sending requests or wishes, and ETV/the models should be more clear about it, but it demands an exercise of honesty i doubt very much they are ready to do. Everyday i give more and more value to models like Nancy, Kristina or Claudia, who are willing and able to satisfy the viewers anywhere, anyway and anytime. Why are you telling us this? ... Again ... |
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Funny.
Tell me why, Karry would be forced to do more than other girls(Jess,Evah,etc..) in ELS? To thank a lot those who, as you, did not want to see her in the NS but are going to see her in ELS (totally logical isn't it?) I think she gives the good and just response to all who complained and yet will continue finding something else like any of her words. |
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Chris26 wrote:@Slowfox: if you read again my entire post, you'll see that I wrote that ETV themselves are very confused about what they mean with their services: as they stated that ELS are just to have conversations, I can see no confusion. They are shows where calls have priority so any "show" in your terms (something everyone seems to assume rather than define) is dependent on the wishes of the caller. Many seemingly prefer to talk with a model where the model is in full and uninterrupted view (something that is a major plus point for the internet shows) and is focused on the conversation rather than acting out a wish. (BTW it is really annoying in mid conversation when the model is distracted by a text message and I would be livid as a caller if the model asked to respond to a message whilst i was on the line.) I do agree that there is a conflict between calls and messages particularly for the more popular models who talk most of the show. Perhaps a disclaimer on the page stating that calls have priority would help. Then it is up to the texter to decide if it is worth taking the risk. Most people know the type of show each model will do so to express outrage when they perform to type seems wasted effort. If you want to see the kind of show you like then feel free to use your credits on a Premium. PS the Reserved Exclusive only indicates an advance booking so has no relevance to the discussion. |
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150 minutes of complete boredom again...oh, sorry, 136 minutes right now .This should not be called "shows", a girl doing nothing but speaking for sure is not a show. I agree with Chris completely. This "shows" depend on the models, some of them are willing to make "shows" and some not. Those who are not willing make useless sending requests or wishes, and ETV/the models should be more clear about it, but it demands an exercise of honesty i doubt very much they are ready to do. Everyday i give more and more value to models like Nancy, Kristina or Claudia, who are willing and able to satisfy the viewers anywhere, anyway and anytime.
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Oh well,
Karry has nice music today!
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Watcher wrote:The 'Wall' and the 'Terms & Conditions' are all there is, to my knowledge. If that does not give you enough then you should approach ETV or maybe reconsider your use of their services. In fact I have reconsidered it a long time ago, but that doesn't lessen in any way my right to comment or criticize or even praise. The "They're working for money" (which is a perfectly fine reasoning) quote has been repeated many times, especially against those who complained (rightly, in my opinion) about the difference in behaviour of some girls between the webshows and the TV shows. If, like you rightly state, you are in no position to comment, I find it hard how it can be so easy for you to always side with the models and never with the viewers (but you're not the only case - and I'm very wary of those who always side with ETV in any occasion, I think that's quite odd to say the least. It's much more normal to have both positive and negative judgments in different occasions). @Slowfox: if you read again my entire post, you'll see that I wrote that ETV themselves are very confused about what they mean with their services: as they stated that ELS are just to have conversations, I find it puzzling that they actually acknowledged their decreasing quality. So what are they? Shows, not shows? That's why I said that it'd be far simpler to have a thorough division between Internet Shows: keep "reserved call style" shows, where the scheduled model is only there to speak and is not supposed to pay attention to wishes (with all the pros and cons), and normal shows where the scheduled model is there to do an actual show (as in Exclusive Live Show). In short, shows where the priority are the calls, and shows where the priority are the viewer's wishes and requests. But stating it before, so that viewers can know what to expect. P.S.: based on US case law (which is what ETVShow.com, although being based in Dominica for fiscal reasons, abides to), the "Terms & Conditions" are actually invalid, being present only at the bottom of the page and not referred to in any other part of the site (they're a so-called "browser-wrap agreement", which contrasts with clickwrap agreements where an user actually proves its acceptation by clicking on something like an "I agree" button). In fact, most users are not even going to be aware of these TOC as with normal size screens (which nowadays I guess means a resolution of about 1366x768) it is actually necessary to actively scroll down to see the link. Users caught breaching these TOC would most likely be found not guilty (as the majority, if not the totality, of such cases had a verdict in favour of the users). |
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Watcher wrote:Maybe this quote from ETV will help:- pertner is a pervert partner???? 
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Watcher wrote:Chris26 wrote:< snip > well, in this particular case, related to the information given by ETV, the answer is just one thread away. sorry, for borrowing this from the general discussion thread Chris26 wrote:nighthawk wrote:It has been ETV's own decission to show more during the time when it is impossible in TV. Can you follow... seems there is some confusion between sometimes understanding and sometimes not understanding. |
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That's right Mimi is on PH show nine times in this week. So, I may be wrong in that, but
not I think in putting the question WHY? Is it a shortage problem of other models? As we all know the callousness and insolence of ETV, this decision has been made unilaterally, automatic and unquestionable agreement between the Molvanians around their table without no considering about the need of other far more talented girls. Anyway and whatsoever it does not harmonize with mine using just one model for so long time span. JohnGuitar |
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Chris26 wrote:< snip > The 'Wall' and the 'Terms & Conditions' are all there is, to my knowledge. If that does not give you enough then you should approach ETV or maybe reconsider your use of their services. As there is only one of me, I can only speak for myself. You'll have to introduce me to the rest of the "all". As I do not recognise the quote I can only assume it was made by one of the others from "all" and as such I will offer no comment. The requesting and offering of refunds is between the parties involved, so I am in no position to comment. I take my money very seriously and expect other to do similarly, therefore I do "try" before I suggest anyone should spend any. We seem to be having this same discussion in multiple threads so I would not be surprised by some moderator intervention. |
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Watcher wrote:You have a problem then ... It's very simple. An official communication, whether it is a well-constructed lie or the truth, is always an official communication. So yes, I think that they should clarify on the Wall once and for all what kind of services they offer and how a customer is supposed to behave and what reaction he is supposed to expect. You are all very considerate talking about the very personal involvement of the models (uhm, weren't you all guys the ones who used to say "Of course they work for the money, what are you thinking?"?), so also the financial contribution of the viewer should be, for fairness' sake, "personal". What do you say?  If a model interprets her job in a "personal" way, viewers should also. They're not satisfied? They ask for a refund in a very "personal" way. Sorry, but I don't like to "try", especially when money is on the table. You're all very good at playing and joking about other people's money, after all.
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Chris26 wrote:< snip > You have a problem then ... Since ETV say The Wall is how the will communicate with the viewers, your inability to accept or believe what they publish leaves you at a disadvantage. How else do you expect to find out? I suppose you could try email but do you expect a personal reply when they publish the information? Yes, the models interpret the ELS on a personal level ... theirs is a very personal involvement. It appears that you want to see everything but not actually get involved by having to call the model and get personal. Try it, maybe then she may agree to do something. |
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@Chris26
Nope, I´m only saying: Well, why should she do better things!?To become money for doing nothing is not the worst activity you can do on a lazy sunday Sorry, I forget to put of my clowns nose
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