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Tarl_Cabot wrote:wait till next night and you'll see his next VIP. I've just spotted a message from him. Unless it was another Marcel. |
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outside wrote:No, rob a Swiss bank. Pro house may not be enoughschubert wrote:Hilbert wrote : |
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wait till next night and you'll see his next VIP.
he writes every month the same but never stops to send VIPs. and if I see the content of his VIPs I can hardly say that I feel sorry for him when he's out of money. |
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schubert wrote:Hilbert wrote : The date when he will get the deposit from selling his house? 
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wolf1 wrote:schubert wrote:Hilbert wrote : 850€? Pssht, he's an amateur compared to some people. 
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schubert wrote:Hilbert wrote : What the Hell 850 for this Crap I am speechless.
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Hilbert wrote :
Every day we are swamped with shows (?!?!) entirely "pussy-free" and erotically so exciting as a "Bauchschmerzen", as a matter of fact only fetishists have fun and "enjoy" that kind of show. You're right . How long will it go on with this ? Last night an example . Marcel wrote "Girls , thanks for all . I have now to wait till 15 -7 - 2012 , before I can sent you new VIP SMS's . Till now it costs me € 850 " Plus what the other callers pay . For what ?? .......nothing Greetings schubert |
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I may be wrong, but I don't think the Web has brought much money they (naively) expected. The proof is given by the constant changes in the format (and models, no more new models, apparently unable to attract customers, but only the hottest) of which the Premium is the latest. That's the latest attempt to make fertile a barren field. In the meantime, we must reflect on the fact that they continue to maintain, during the day shifts, about 11 models (however, they must pay) which are often left with no calls for hours. Nightshows are real disaster, if Tia has so few calls during the night and if Eliza and Lilian are the real stars of the show the problem is large.
Furthermore, we must not forget that to sell the models on the web has a devastating effect on the perception that customers have (especially after losing so much time in useless flattery and false shyness) about the girls, models aren't more girls next door, but professionals. No one sends flowers to professionals, no one writes love sms to a professional and the client expect a lot from a professional whom is payed to do a show. As I said long ago, they locked themselves into a corner from which they can not get out, so they pray to their holy protecting, Mashiara, Scarlet and Amy, to invent something to survive. |
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uk334 wrote:...How about buying a punching ball? Concerning ELS I agree, why should I pay for something I can get for free? I think I already mentioned several times, until now all attempts to make money beyond calls and SMS in the FTA shows failed, and I'm optimistic ELS doesn't pay off on the long term either. Anyway I still watch the FTA show and sometimes there are for my taste real good shows, e.g. last Thursday or last week Sunday, but of course it's always a matter of personal taste and expectation. As we say in Germany, from a cow you shouldn't expect more than a piece of beef Regards Joker |
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uk334 wrote:I have already mentioned this in the Gia thread, those who contribute to ELS say to etv they can earn money doing it this way and therefore keep it going. You scored the point, until there will be people (I actually use a different term to name them) to pluck, they will continue plucking them. And since they are always the same people, sooner or later there won't be any feather to pluck from them. I actually am not so sure about they are really incoming money since ETVShow has started. They have admitted (of course in their way, full of haughtiness and arrogance) almost all "premium shows" were big failures (except, maybe, the one in the shower with an over-aroused Angelina, because it was very cheap to produce for them). Almost in all cases they won't even cover the costs. They lose money. And in ELS shows, no longer novelty effect, they had a solid lack of calls and sms, so they have already reduced the amount of people working at them. Even with "stars" as Mashiara, Scarlet, Kristina and Roshana. I was told Michelle in her last ELS was really annoyed because she was alone, no one at handling the camera, no one even to take her bag with her leggings to put on because of a request (requests are manly the same of TV shows, of course firstofall foot fetish stuff). I was also told Michelle stopped some "harder" requests saying "luckily this isn't a porn channel so we can do only what we feel". Respect for Michelle, but for the customers? I think they will give a break at the end of July, justifying that with summer break, and they won't start it again. In the meantime they ruined TV shows, whose quality is going down and down, over and over again. A potential star as Anna is blocked at handling the camera at ELS (or maybe she has to show her big assets to help some colleagues that didn't get enough calls because they lost their fans). Neither the presence of platinum stars as Tia, or Kia or Aliyah or new stars with Roshana could stop this. And gold stars as Amy, Mashiara and Scarlet are now considered as cheapest camgirls (not so far from Jane actually). Take a look at the video section, only few videomakers (maybe some more than "Juliet and Juliet and Juliet without panties" viewers). Don't also forget obsolete (bodies and souls) models as Aria, Eliza and Janine couldn't resist at their exhibitionism and self-indulgence. Aria is frantically searching for a colleague to share with her and Mimosa her italian moderator shifts, since Simone (the best one there, not of their league) has moved to another country for the whole summer (it seems Michelle has already denied, tonight Isabella had a little tryout), because she is terrified to become a full-time moderator. P.S. models have their big guilt in this situation. No reasons to justify them. Sorry, but I cannot talk about some among them without referring to unpleasant titles. |
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What happened with daytime showers? I haven't seen those shows for several months.
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ji_mar wrote:ETV on a satellite dying. I have already mentioned this in the Gia thread, those who contribute to ELS say to etv they can earn money doing it this way and therefore keep it going. How many ideas have etv come up with in the past, now this one is earning them money they will not dump it. Me personally I have stopped watching the sh*t they put on fta and I WILL NOT be joining anything websiteish, why would I there are plenty of FREE places to go with nicer girls and less arrogance all over the internet. And you don't have to HOPE to see them something, they DO ! Still like calling into this forum though, it's good for the soul. |
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ETV on a satellite dying.
 I am sad, how ETV to lose loyal viewers . Many forum members now prefer only to ELS. They demand new girls, new ideas for shows and they forget the "old and good" ETV.  I also would like to see a good show on satellite. Most girls in the ELS does not show more than is allowed on the satellite. If ETV bosses were good, he could earn money on satellite. Now bosses ETV destroys their satellite channel. They now use it only as an advertisement for their ELS. In my opinion this is very dangerous for the survival of ETV. In the absence of free satellite ETV, will ETV exist only on the Internet? ETV on satellite has very little competition and they are gaining a large number of customers. The Internet is a huge competition. How familiar would ETV on the Internet, if they do not use their girls who became famous on the satellite? How could the ELS popular, if they used the example girls from "studio Berlin "? Will the new girls as well as popular as the "old girls" from the satellite ETV? All the popular girls went through a long development in the ETV and thus gained their popularity. New girls in ELS have not this popularity . Can this concept shows on the Internet survive? The audience will demand more and where will it end? In my opinion, can not exist the Internet ETV without satellite with this concept. Bosses deliberately destroying their ETV satellite show and loses his audience. If ETV on internet survive, it will be only cheap erotic portal  , which are thousands on the internet!I do not like ELS  . I still want to buy credits because it is now the only chance to see a nice show . But I have of it very bad feel because it also contributing to the extinction of ETV satellite . ETV Bosses do not give us a other choice .(This is my opinion. My English is bad, I hope it's understandable.) |
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Tarl_Cabot wrote:marcus2 wrote:Tarl_Cabot wrote:marcus2 wrote:That's all from Austria. All other rules come from ETV itself or UK? Hello you. You made reference to HB satellites, what influence can have HB or astra on ETV? I do not understand? Satellites are only the broadcast of images (good or bad) in the world. evidently is that the satellites have a very major and wide audience (more than the web, personal avi) ........ but the diffuser is in danger or conversely, only programs that are ... .. And the rules of the country, after 23 hours .... What do you think? Your opinions are always very interesting. Sincerely daf911. |
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outside wrote:Since summer season has officially started, it would be nice do not see stockings, pantyhose, leggings, etc. for at least 3 months. That would be erotic so I think it will never happen. Dungarees or pants, wooly jumpers and leggins only ! Is it me, or are some of the models a bit too masculine anyway ? By that I mean in demeanor not sexual organs. ! |
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