Eurotic TV - General Discussion

Tarl_Cabot wrote:

jost54 wrote:Due to early sleeping I didn`t see this message. But showing insults of models on plasma would be an evidence of incapacity.

insults towards the models costs the same as complaints about bad or even not shown requests.
and we know that etv earns money with this, too.
also it wasn't the first time that something like this happened.

PS: haven't seen the VIP yet but don't wonder about this way to express an opinion.

if this is only for business human genre is only meat slaughter

Tarl_Cabot wrote:

jost54 wrote:Due to early sleeping I didn`t see this message. But showing insults of models on plasma would be an evidence of incapacity.

insults towards the models costs the same as complaints about bad or even not shown requests.
and we know that etv earns money with this, too.
also it wasn't the first time that something like this happened.

PS: haven't seen the VIP yet but don't wonder about this way to express an opinion.

Well, money rules the (Molvanian) world. But where is the line? Anyway all the models of ETV need a strong constitution.

@Slow

I agree with you on many things, you know Some obvious, like when you say "We all work to collect our coins."

My doubts begin when you say "The program is entertainment for Which You have to add your contribution case you want to see a decent show, or Any show at all." If we follow your reasoning, we understand that the show we see is the result of calls-sms being sent. Curiously, Slow and you know it, is that as you well say, ETV has no obligation to fulfill the wishes of the sms-consumers, and many models ignore many of these wishes and some practically almost all of them (and many very reasonable and soft). Therefore, I have my doubts that the sms are doing the shows good, given the rampant censorship and lack of interest shown by ETV to give a good production to the shows. Yes, you have to contribute, but ETV gives very little in return. It seems very little in return to see your sms into a plasma. What is ETV doing with that money? are they investing to improve the shows? seems not. There are fewer models, the studio is increasingly poor and the shows more boring and more soft, for everyone: for who pays or not. "I do not want to spend my money if I do not see ETV take it seriously," many consumers may think. ETV gives more time relevant and stupid sent by sms-massive senders, than sms that can really contribute to the show. IT seems they are not interested in doing a good or hot show (in the near future they should replace the word hot, for not lying), only in the way of getting more money. They are reluctant to show some sms longer and more to fulfill them, but have no qualms about showing a sms which insults a model, and far from ignoring it, give the microphone to the poor model for comment . Sorry. This is the current ETV, and i am free if i don´t want to spend my money this way.

I doubt this system is improving the shows, rather tend to think otherwise. ETV seems pleased, because the system does not change, so they must be lining their pockets, but in return their self-limitations and restrictions make their shows more and more boring, less "hot", becoming more of fans-in love meeting with their models via sms that an erotic show. The proportion of wishes fulfilled decently is sometimes very low, (the basic instinct show the other day, distant shots, and the models with their panties on, was one of the most ridiculous thing I've seen in ETV). Slow, i want to be clear in this: i save the girls, who are really good, beautiful and sexy, but ETV staff is not up to them.

Slow friendly, and well you know I like you, thought you were more tolerant of diversity of opinion, but it seems to be co-financer of the shows , you will have become a shareholder in some little part way, because otherwise I do not understand this allegation:

Slowfox wrote:Basically you get even more because you do not have to pay and can just watch. But then please, enjoy quietly and do not analyze what was bad in last nights show ... and what you expected ... .

First of all, Slow, this forum is not ETV mailbox customer care, this a free forum to comment ETV world. If i don´t spend money in the show, i can´t claim (i don´t have the right) nothing to ETV, because i am not a customer, but i can comment what i think about it as a viewer here in a this great free forum, and if this system is not fair, it´s simple: make ETV a "pay per view" channel, then the viewers will be customers as well. While this show is free i will watch it if i want, and if it doesn´t like to me and i want to comment it, i will do, because i am free, i am not disrespecting anyone and i am just commenting what i see. And those who spend their money, have the same possibilities and freedom to tell what they think. It´s a freedom exercise, and i will repeat over and over again each time i will see people telling who can speak or who can´t analyze a show. I think the fact that you sent from time to time messages to ETV does not entitle you to put yourself above anyone who doesn´t send that sms to tell if he can say a thing or not. Sorry, Slow.

as, glassy, i think the girls were paid for "to do was to provide sexy and erotic entertainment for paying customers who contacted them either by phone or sms to the studio", not for only reading some sms from the plasma if they want to, fulfill them if they want to... I see many times models doing performances or hot actions not requested and even not speaking at the phone, then??? what is this? art loving? asking for new customers with a good show perhaps? ordered actions by direction?

@mario
you seem really annoyed . The answer is so simple: they will watch ETV while they want, whatever reasons, and they will comment what they want in this forum while they want while they do not violate the rules. And it is just great for the life of this forum and the richness of opinions. There is no reason to bother. (anyway i know you are suffering so much this days without Gia.... i too...:thumbup Friendly, Mario.

I will say it one more time: the first is respect, and after that, diversity of opinions are really good, join the freedom for thinking different and having the right for writing if you want to!!

jost54 wrote:Due to early sleeping I didn`t see this message. But showing insults of models on plasma would be an evidence of incapacity.

insults towards the models costs the same as complaints about bad or even not shown requests.
and we know that etv earns money with this, too.
also it wasn't the first time that something like this happened.

PS: haven't seen the VIP yet but don't wonder about this way to express an opinion.

brudgon wrote:

jost54 wrote:First the payment then the performance of the models, or first the show to raise the number of calls and sms-requests.

maybe this point is right...maybe....but how dare etv to allow post messages that insult the models on the plasma? is this the businnes? (i'm referring to last nigh about roshana) this is unacceptable is also for this i never sent sms because etv not respect her models

Due to early sleeping I didn`t see this message. But showing insults of models on plasma would be an evidence of incapacity.

universal wrote:

brudgon wrote:

jost54 wrote:First the payment then the performance of the models, or first the show to raise the number of calls and sms-requests.

maybe this point is right...maybe....but how dare etv to allow post messages that insult the models on the plasma? is this the businnes? (i'm referring to last nigh about roshana) this is unacceptable is also for this i never sent sms because etv not respect her models

Perhaps they hoped to receive a lot of sms in response to defend Roshana..

...or perhaps they needs to understand that in the studio there are human persons and not some beasts........

brudgon wrote:

jost54 wrote:First the payment then the performance of the models, or first the show to raise the number of calls and sms-requests.

maybe this point is right...maybe....but how dare etv to allow post messages that insult the models on the plasma? is this the businnes? (i'm referring to last nigh about roshana) this is unacceptable is also for this i never sent sms because etv not respect her models

Perhaps they hoped to receive a lot of sms in response to defend Roshana..

jost54 wrote:First the payment then the performance of the models, or first the show to raise the number of calls and sms-requests.

maybe this point is right...maybe....but how dare etv to allow post messages that insult the models on the plasma? is this the businnes? (i'm referring to last nigh about roshana) this is unacceptable is also for this i never sent sms because etv not respect her models

Slowfox wrote:

jost54 wrote:Who decides what are constructive criticisms, precious suggestions and pointless complaints?
How can one recognise who is a paying customer?

certainly a valid point, jost54, sir. any suggestion ?

slow

I´m afraid not.

jost54 wrote:Who decides what are constructive criticisms, precious suggestions and pointless complaints?
How can one recognise who is a paying customer?

certainly a valid point, jost54, sir. any suggestion ?

slow

Slowfox wrote:There is no problem with constructive criticism and suggestions for improvement, just with pointless complaints without having actively participated or contributed. slow

Only a short remark from my point of view.

Who decides what are constructive criticisms, precious suggestions and pointless complaints?
How can one recognise who is a paying customer?

I think just ETV can determine what`s the best to get enough money. First the payment then the performance of the models, or first the show to raise the number of calls and sms-requests.

Mario205 wrote:But guys, all this things are NOT new!

Therefore my question is,... Why you'll see, this channel ???

Mario, sir,

the initial question was not why we watch the show, it was about the money flow and those complaining about the performance of the girls.

the intention of the previous post basically was to have second thoughts about such complaints eventually raised, w/o having contributed in any form

we all certainly like to watch the show and we all like to see a good show, but that does not happen out of the blue and is not paid for with tooth picks or shells.

you may recall that a similar question has been raised in the Gia D&C, where someone finally said that she is a coin machine. You put a coin in and she gets moving (or not; but regarding this see below). But everybody else is, too, as nobody works for nothing. In that sense I am definitely a coin machine, too, as w/o salary I would give a damn s..t about work. And same, no doubt, goes for the girls.

However, the twist is the message system but I like to quote from my post below:

'The only draw back, admittedly, and that is exceptional, the girls are not obliged to follow what is written on the plasma. You pay, and that has been said previously, for your message being shown on screen and nothing else. However, it is certainly advisable, although not compulsory, for etv and the girls to comply as otherwise messages decrease, when nobody expects anything anymore.'

So, basically they should follow (or the management needs to take care) as glassy, sir, correctly mentioned, as this is where the money comes in. Without compliance no further requests / sms. But, and that is a very big but, they do not have to.

Strange ? Certainly, but we will not change that.

And true, every sms is subject to a lottery of a 50/50 chance.

But back to what was the core question, i.e. the complaints. I believe as long as one does not actively participate, even facing the 50/50 risk, one should refrain from having the guts to complain. The show is broadcasted free, i.e. not yet encrypted. Thus we get to see something we do not have to pay for. And then raising doubts about the quality of something which is free. I have my doubts that this is the correct approach.

There is no problem with constructive criticism and suggestions for improvement, just with pointless complaints without having actively participated or contributed.

slow

Hi Watcher having worked for many years as a camera operator in several studios similar to but not on the same scale as Eurotic. I can see where things could be improved or changed to make the shows more appealing to the adult customers this channel outputs its material to. It isn't easy keeping up a certain standard in every show. I certainly don't think I could do it better but knowing what equipment Eurotic has at there disposal there is no excuse to only make one or two good shows a month. Eurotic CAN make and have made good shows but when a channel starts to ignore the whole concept of them being on air and even worse recently-- ignoring money paying cutomers requests--then these customers will fade away and with them take the future of this channel.

Mario205 wrote:But guys, all this things are NOT new!

Therefore my question is,... Why you'll see, this channel ???

In my capacity as Head English Master, I believe that Mario means 'Why do you watch this channel?' ...
and I believe I can answer this:-

In Hilbert's case, it's because he is stalking Ju.
In glassy's case, it is because he honestly believes he can do it far better than ETV.
In lucifer's case, it's because he lives to complain

And yes, these things are not new ... they repeat continually throughout this and many other threads, irrespective of the number of times that Tarl_Cabot or any other member posts an answer.

But guys, all this things are NOT new!

Therefore my question is,... Why you'll see, this channel ???