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Hi Gentleman !
I agree at 100 % with vappiano68. My special opinion is: Models, which are not longer motivated (Athina) or with a really horrible performance (Lilian) are not the future of ETV. Last night, we saw a good way and a chance, to upgrade the quality of a night sow. Models like Karry, Evah, Conny .. together in the same night show, assisted by a good director could be also a chance to satisfy the viewers and to get a lot of SMS. |
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Feminists maybe ?
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thank you all for your interest in the shows of ETV and making all these efforts to know what is going on and should be done during these shows, but unfortunately the administration of this channel are insisting on their policy of ignoring all the ideas of their viewers and.
it is a game of hide and seek and never show what the cameramen and directors can see, and replacing it with balloons, creaming, feet, collants, and various some time abnormal requests. I feel sometime like if they are writing themselves these messages on to switch from a hot shot to something silly.. it is an endless complaint and they don't care |
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Panda wrote:@vappiano68 Hi Panda, I believe to know the reason of your post, but I didn't want to offend Athina. She has been never my favourite, but I don't dislike her at all. I simply think that her best has gone and she is no more motivated, and maybe her nightshows are too many for this reason. I'd like to make my thought clear:in every job there are precise requirements. - Nice physical aspect - Ability in spoken languages - Freshness - Wish to tease the viewers with movements, sexy clothes and sexy actions. The recruitment should follow these features. Being beautiful like Brona or naked like Lilian is not enough. Even if Brona can receive calls during the day, in this way we will have always the same girls during the day and the same during the night. When we have an exception (like Brona in a nightshow) we have a "disastrous performance", simply because she's not appropriate for this kind of job. ETV needs girls who can do both good daytimes and good nightshows. Doing a good nightshow doesn't mean to act as Lilian or to be completely naked for 5 straight hours. I think that a couple of "soft" (like Evah and Carrie in my pics) would be Ok when together in the same night. Directors, insted of destroying the shows, should work at this purpose, with the help of some ingredients (sexy dresses, showers, honey, milk, ice creams, fruits and whipped cream,...) In the past it worked well (Clio, Evah, Bella, Gabrielle and many others): 6 hot babes + 2 teasing soft babes. (ETV is not able to create a roster able to show 8 naked beauties every night). Now it's no more possible: Carrie's show with only "cold" girls. Obvious, it couldn't work! She has been criticized for that, but the guilty is some "strategist" who allowed that a similar show were planned. |
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Thanks Vappiano for Your post very interesting.
I agree with You all over and I want specify: In my previous post I wrote that a teasing show may be interesting if soft models or hard models wearing appropriate dress (i.e. short skirt, elegant hoses, transparent shirt or dress) so to play a game "showing or not showing". Another thing regarding a mssg fromm a watcher day ago, regarding a Scarlet show, requesting Scarlet to wear a G string, this was also posted from me on Girls clothes forum togheter an idea that models could wear microbikini For the last part of Your post (naked models) "No comments" photos are self explanatory In effect , except for same models, Teasing in ETV is lacking |
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@vappiano68
Hi vappiano68 Let me take part in this litlle conversation. Every one has his/hers choises on ETV models.For examble we all( or most of us) know how much you "love" Lillian.There are many others that realy adore her. I'm sure that you know that. I don't know how hard did you search to find these photos below but let me tell you this: If so called "soft" models were doing that kind of performance more often I would certainly share your choice. But to me it seems that you found the two "drops in the ocean" to show us. On the other hand the others not so beautiful naked models are doing their job very well,have a lot of funs and most of all we sould'nt criticise them just because their face or entire body is not exactly what we like. I repeat once more that every one of the 95455 of us has his own likes and dislikes. See ya. |
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Good point put forward mate, no arguing with that.
But why has Evah changed so much, shorts on today, still the same temp in a skirt. Is this girl power taking the pi** out of us males. Why nice looking models gone ice cold and the others not. |
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@ Zxcv and Chris26:
About the presence of "soft" babes in the nightshow: I agree with you that nowadays it's something negative, but it depends on the current definition of "soft" in ETVland. Actually "soft" = "ornament of the studio". What did I mean with my previous post (the presence of a couple of soft girl in the nightshows) ? A simply choice between 2 possibilities: 1) This kind of soft: [hidden link - please register] [hidden link - please register] [hidden link - please register] [hidden link - please register] [hidden link - please register] (Both Evah abd Sabrina didn't seem to be so unhappy that night  )or this one: [hidden link - please register] [hidden link - please register] [hidden link - please register] [hidden link - please register] 2) These kinds of eternal naked presences: [hidden link - please register] [hidden link - please register] [hidden link - please register] [hidden link - please register] [hidden link - please register] [hidden link - please register] [hidden link - please register] or, looking on the left side: [hidden link - please register] [hidden link - please register] You surely know my choice. |
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I agree, like I have said before, what's wrong with topless and short skirts and the odd glimpse of a knee.
Evah the other day changed into a short skirt and straight away raised the temerature, so we know that is possible, then changed back into pants because it was too cold..WHAT !! Carrie and Nancy and Timi were braless the other week so we know that is possible. So where are these things now. Seems to me it's staffing problems, they just have not got a clue what is sexy or eurotic. |
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rialpka wrote:...The last point is the problem, then ETV will run completely short with models, from my point of view they already don't have enough which is part of the problem. High workload, "incompatible" girls together in a show (OK, not always possible to avoid), frequent changing shifts and filling gaps for girls who are prevented for any reason and lack of attention will kill fun and motivation on the long term, there are only very few girls who can withstand this. Regards Joker |
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The base of any entertainment it is the Pleasure, I speak for the artist, the one who makes it and it is true for an actor a singer etc.. and even a sporting team. It is the first condition so that the spectator feels in his turn some pleasure.
Yesterday is a good example there was not a lot of pleasure in the studio, we can understand it after the work and long night of BD Show and of the party; but other nights how many girls have pleasure to be there to make this difficult and meritorious work. Easy to answer, generally these are the best models. Then ETV, for the quality of the show, choose models which have in first the Pleasure and send back those who have no it for a long time and who send to viewers all the boredom that is in them. I know easier to say that to make, but you can try at least. |
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You know that I would rather cut one of my arms off than say that I'd appreciate seeing (the current) Carrie in a nigthshow, but as Vappiano said, every single soft model (bar, maybe, Joanna and Kleopatra) is infinitely more appropriate than Brona in a nightshow.
And also Carrie and Evah, models I don't particularly like for different reasons - at least they move, and play with their dresses a bit. Brona? "Can you put on a Bra?" --> "If you want I can dance." "Can you remove your dress?" --> "If you want I can dance." "Can you put on the blue top you had two years ago?" --> "If you want I can dance." Oops... wasted money. The only thing she actually "did" was the doggystyle show requested from an Italian viewer, but of course God forbid that she be shown from behind! (Ok, I'm not counting the high-heels show because it doesn't require models to actually do anything, the cameramen just show their feet) At least Carrie can sometimes reach handbra level, something Brona is still light-years away from. And also, I don't agree (I might already have said this) with who says that soft models should have a little, but constant presence in the nightshows because there are people who work during the day and can only see them in the nightshows. For the very same reasons, one could study/work during the day, and would appreciate seeing only active (or hot, whatever he prefers) models in the nightshow, the only scample of time when nakedness is still allowed... All of this to say that, in my opinion, after Anna's withdrawal, if ETV really didn't have any available model other than Brona, they shouldn't have added anybody. |
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vappiano68 wrote:Just take a look at a soccer-team: not 11 forwards, not 11 goalkeepers. The idea is to put the right person in the right place at the right time . Maybe the soft shows and the soft models are appealing to a specific group of viewers ….and that let me say that nobody has the right to block what is appealing to the others. However If there is anyone who believes that it doesn't make any annoyance or embracement for any hot model (whoever she is ) to stay naked beside a fully dressed soft model …for sure he's definitely wrong , and out of touch with the reality . I still remember when Sabrina said long time ago… Why I should stay naked while the other is not …and why I should do everything while the others don't ever do the slight efforts …....That specific situation was between her and brona , when Sabrina was trying to convince her to just participate in the action ( not to get naked )...And she was frequently refusing . And that's why I said it's … practically , technically, psychologically…. doesn't ever work for the interest of the show …not to mention the negative mood which always exist through their presence in the night show. and the continuous rejection of the wishes..and the impolite answers in sometimes in reaction for some other wishes . I do believe that the best decision which was taken in the last year ….was eliminating the soft models from the night shift . But it seems that the outcome of 2011 comes all in the opposite direction …starting with the censored and very low quality shows …beside suspending the best show they ever produced ( the shower show ) …and the return of the soft models in the night shift . |
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Yes Zxcv, I agree with you about "the other soft model is acting like a crowned queen in her throne"
 .I think that it depends on the disastrous current concept about "soft models" in ETVland. Actually daily shows have reached an incredible level of censorship, so that even "cold models" are not allowed to express their potential. There's also another aspect: many viewers and callers can be in front of the screen only during the nightshow, because during the day they're at work. So, according to me, every pretty model should have the opportunity to be on screen for at least one nightshow/week. Unfortunately ETV seems to have absolutely no idea about how to manage this fact. Just take a look at a soccer-team: not 11 forwards, not 11 goalkeepers. In ETv' studio a good solution could be: 8 models: 5/6 hot girls, 2/3 soft girls ( 1 girl alone could feel herself "not in the right place") But to be soft should not mean to be an "ornament of the studio"! Evah, Carrie, Jessica, Connie, Simona, Naomi ... where are you? You surely are more adequate than Brona for a nightshow. Despite of her beauty, Brona has nothing to do with a nightshow. |
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I think soft models should be kept for day shows unless any of them want to progress to night shows and produce hotter shows. The regular night models can then teach and boost the soft models confidence. But I also think the hot models have a place in the day shows teaching the newer models abour there actions.-poses and how to perform to the cameras etc. If a soft model wants to progress then that is the only time they should be in a nighr show. Of course Eueotic know the soft midel will produce cash at night as their fans will cintact them in the hope they will finally strip. The answer is to employ models who are not afraid to strip and show their bodies. They then could be used day and night.
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