Eurotic TV - General Discussion

Hallo Fman1
Just a week ago after the first show of Jane i wrote that her show was nice in spite of she is a promodel or not
and ETV needs some models like Jane, but someone replied to me that ETV not needs this type of model
Most probably there is a lot of people that is satisfacted from this situation
Regarding the mssg and sms appearing on the screen , bearing in mind that now I watch ETV only by Astra Channel
Hot bird seems an arabic channel and i don't understand arabic, the most part of it are not concerning the show
(white mssg) while the mssg for the show are yellow and are very few, What this means?
If You add also the great no of models in the show it's important only the no of sms and mssg and not
the quality of the show

HvB wrote:they also tell about the bad critics because of that and I think the reaction to this was quite satisfying for the average viewer ... (hint: listen to her on the mic before the cream show).

And if they don't ..I can't even complain ...because it's their right . but I do think it's more about the director's task...I mean..it's the director role to create a real interesting erotic show...and not just only a talk show .

zxcv wrote:

HvB wrote:You should be very thankful for all of them, because they pay for you being able to see a nice model stripping from time to time.
If the viewers who just want to see a nice model stripping would call, there would be more of it ...

definitely , we should always thank the regular callers , even if they in sometimes completely block Mashi and the others all the night through

they also tell about the bad critics because of that and I think the reaction to this was quite satisfying for the average viewer ... (hint: listen to her on the mic before the cream show).

HvB wrote:You should be very thankful for all of them, because they pay for you being able to see a nice model stripping from time to time.
If the viewers who just want to see a nice model stripping would call, there would be more of it ...

definitely , we should always thank the regular callers , even if they in sometimes completely block Mashi and the others all the night through

fman1 wrote:I don't understand why "to be professional" is a default.
To do a full strip during the first show is it "professional" ? I remember the first show of Janine and she was faster to strip then Jane.
Janine is she a professional ?
When you are paid, you are professional when you do your job. So every models are professional. What the models are doing between two shows are not my problem. It is their private life.

In my opinion, the problem in the show is the callers. When I read the sms on the screen, I note that almost of the callers are fetishist (collants, nylons, ballons, feet ...). The others are model lovers. (They live alone on islands and search the ideal wife as the little girls are looking for a prince).
Viewers who only want to see nice models stripping don't call ETV and for them, this channel become just inappropriate.

You should be very thankful for all of them, because they pay for you being able to see a nice model stripping from time to time.
If the viewers who just want to see a nice model stripping would call, there would be more of it ...

I don't understand why "to be professional" is a default.
To do a full strip during the first show is it "professional" ? I remember the first show of Janine and she was faster to strip then Jane.
Janine is she a professional ?
When you are paid, you are professional when you do your job. So every models are professional. What the models are doing between two shows are not my problem. It is their private life.

In my opinion, the problem in the show is the callers. When I read the sms on the screen, I note that almost of the callers are fetishist (collants, nylons, ballons, feet ...). The others are model lovers. (They live alone on islands and search the ideal wife as the little girls are looking for a prince).
Viewers who only want to see nice models stripping don't call ETV and for them, this channel become just inappropriate.

Holy words!!!!!!!!

My dearest ETV..BOSS.....what a poor attempt to push the memberships for ETV GOLD....why dont you just go back to your roots???Be honest and install a complete PAY-TV!!!thats obviously what you want to try!No problem,for sure you will keep about 5 % of the viewers!!!Sorry,How many more attempts does it need to ruin all the former nice ideas of ETV???I`m viewer since beginning and spent a lot of money without any regards....but I refuse to let me be pushed to ETV GOLD,just to see all the show or get any benefits!Close the free TV and change to Pay TV....and good bye!!!

zxcv wrote:...
All the forums will always be full of the complainers , however it's usually have these kind of members who always have a good vision and could probably be able to provide a very useful feedback for the company .

But you need a close observation for analysing a forum, bigger companies probably can do so to differ representative people from from complainers and freaks.
OK, the ETV customers probably are rather freaks than Average Joe's, but I'm not sure if they have the capacitiy for a reasonable analysis of this forum.

Take for example .....

Our dear fellow member Jonas....send a wish for natasha ……and Natasha answer him very positively and kindly …..And then the director block and ruin the whole scene .


How many viewers all over the world have noticed this ….. guess what exactly would come to their mind…. when they watch this reaction from ETV towards one of its loyal customers .

I wouldn’t say that they steal the money ( in fact they don't ) ….but I would say that they always give ....such a doubtful reaction towards their loyal customers ……which makes them in the end lost the credibility with everybody .

And here's where the main problem lies in ….The Credibility…..and for that everybody has decided to stay away ….and choose to be just a viewers or say a spectator only .

And that's why I said before that the ETV gold system would never change anything on the ground ....whatever you set the price at the lowest level ….nobody will care ....Because nobody will spend one cent for ...such a doubtful product

That's the main problem for ETV …the credibility …and that's the message we should emphasize through this forum …no matter if we would be such a active callers or just a spectator .

And instead of fixing the main problem ,.... ETV continues to circumvent around it…..that's from their part....and From our part , we still unable to raise the good and useful discussions which in the end could generates the good alternative solutions for them .

I totally agree.

That doesn't mean that I doubt the meaning of this forum ….this forum is the best in the whole web ….however it's still lacking of the useful and serious discussion which could probably make it more influential .

That's indeed really difficult, and forums with influence attract "spammers" even more.

In fact nobody could pretend that he has the best or the magic solutions for the success of ETV…..however I still believe on one thing ……In sometimes the outsiders could have better views…..and could be able to bring the ship back to the right direction.
( it's a privilege to discuss someone knows how to prove and explain his views , and knows how to show respect for the other party despite the disagreement ) .

That's also right, and anyway you need to recruit new customers from the "outsiders" to keep your business running, the insiders fade away time after time and if nobody new is joining your business will die.
But attracting outsiders without annoying the insiders is also a fine line.
Anyway I think a big step ahead were if they would provide a cost free way for feedback of their paying customers. As a paying customer I always feel fooled if I have to pay telefone sex prices to get in contact with the service team.

Regards
Joker

joker wrote :
That's the problem of any forum, mostly those who want to complain or those who have their own agenda are writing.
So ETV probably does better to please their callers instead of forum writers who are just watching the program, I've seen companies in other branches failing with products the froum writers demanded.

All the successful companies all over the world .. gives a great attention for the feedback of its services , and no wonder in that if it's intending to keep the high level of success …And the forums will always be one of the great sources for the good feedback .

All the forums will always be full of the complainers , however it's usually have these kind of members who always have a good vision and could probably be able to provide a very useful feedback for the company .

And that let me says ….that the forums will always plays such a very significant role .

joker wrote :
I'm not sure if a forum should have big influence. Are you sure this forum represents the majority of the callers?
Finally they are the ones who keep ETV on air.
Of course, everyone has his own bias, but would ETV be able to survive if they exactly do what I like? I'm only a spectator (I'm concerned to get addicted once I start and the go bankrupt by this), and my impression is many who are complaining are also just spectators.
As there's a really big variety of specific interests I think there's no best solution for ETV anyway, and even if from my perspective the work of the directors is sometimes could be better they are fortunately one of very few channels lasting for longer than a year, so they can't be totally wrong anyway.

There is no guarantee that this forum represent the majority of the callers or the customers ….but surely there are a lot and a lot of the callers all over the forum .

On the other hand, I am also pretty sure that not all the complainers are just only spectators …there are many of the callers and the loyal customers of ETV between them .

Take for example .....

Our dear fellow member Jonas....send a wish for natasha ……and Natasha answer him very positively and kindly …..And then the director block and ruin the whole scene .


How many viewers all over the world have noticed this ….. guess what exactly would come to their mind…. when they watch this reaction from ETV towards one of its loyal customers .

I wouldn’t say that they steal the money ( in fact they don't ) ….but I would say that they always give ....such a doubtful reaction towards their loyal customers ……which makes them in the end lost the credibility with everybody .

And here's where the main problem lies in ….The Credibility…..and for that everybody has decided to stay away ….and choose to be just a viewers or say a spectator only .

And that's why I said before that the ETV gold system would never change anything on the ground ....whatever you set the price at the lowest level ….nobody will care ....Because nobody will spend one cent for ...such a doubtful product

That's the main problem for ETV …the credibility …and that's the message we should emphasize through this forum …no matter if we would be such a active callers or just a spectator .

And instead of fixing the main problem ,.... ETV continues to circumvent around it…..that's from their part....and From our part , we still unable to raise the good and useful discussions which in the end could generates the good alternative solutions for them .

That doesn't mean that I doubt the meaning of this forum ….this forum is the best in the whole web ….however it's still lacking of the useful and serious discussion which could probably make it more influential .

In fact nobody could pretend that he has the best or the magic solutions for the success of ETV…..however I still believe on one thing ……In sometimes the outsiders could have better views…..and could be able to bring the ship back to the right direction.

( it's a privilege to discuss someone knows how to prove and explain his views , and knows how to show respect for the other party despite the disagreement ) .

Tarl_Cabot wrote:nowadays the etv train reached the next station and now everybody must decide about taking the next train (maybe to ETV Gold) or leaving the train and enjoying the life with sitting at the station while complaining about the left train and praising the first part of this journey.
but I fear they will sit for a very long time at this station because I doubt that someone will send a new train which would fulfill the wishes of these travellers.

3rd option:

taking the bike and going to the seaside
(my idea is that ETV has managed situations, external conditions, models, direction in a very bad way).
Let's see what happens in the future.

do not understand etv close by the end of 2011 only on astra
or close completely on sat
while it remains in operation only on the Internet for gold member
I hate censorship done by false bigots

vappiano68 wrote:Many thanks to Tari and Opaotto.

So the problem should be Astra.
Then it's difficult for me to understand the reason for which a channel like
Babestation24 decides to start on Astra just 6 months before the end of 2011.

according to some posts [hidden link - please register] is the new BS24 just an attempt to bring some exisiting shows to the rest of europe and so not the best example.
but BS24 offers the same as BluYoo did in the past, too. they use the softer fta shows as a kind of advertisement for harder webshows.
this is probably the sign which should be discussed about etv, too.

etv exists but not in the way that many of this forum have prefered in the past.

the members of this forum joined in the past a train and enjoyed the tour.
at some point the train has changed the route and some travellers left the train but most of the forum-travellers have decieded to stay in the train and enjoy or complain.
nowadays the etv train reached the next station and now everybody must decide about taking the next train (maybe to ETV Gold) or leaving the train and enjoying the life with sitting at the station while complaining about the left train and praising the first part of this journey.
but I fear they will sit for a very long time at this station because I doubt that someone will send a new train which would fulfill the wishes of these travellers.

Many thanks to Tari and Opaotto.

So the problem should be Astra.
Then it's difficult for me to understand the reason for which a channel like
Babestation24 decides to start on Astra just 6 months before the end of 2011.

vappiano68 wrote:

Carl in -ETV Gold- discussion thread wrote:In my opinion FTA rules will be even more restrict in next Future and the WEB in combination with TV is a good Choice.

I'm not informed very well about this, so I ask to someone who "sees the light":
1) is there any proof about this?
2) Where can I find any document explaining a "more restricted future"?
3) Who is the "Further Censor"? RTR? Astra? HotBird?

I hope someone can give some answers to me, otherwise one could even think that the unwatchable shows of the last months and the ETV-Gold membership are only consequences of ETV's strategy to face the market in a different way (cheaper for ETV, unwatchable for the viewers ).

Thanks in advance.

IMHO a reliable (german) source:

[hidden link - please register]

Maybe someone who knows the english expression for 'Schmuddelkanäle' tries a translation...