ETV's new Webcam Chat

Sushi show?
Well I assume Calamari will be in it ...

Tarl_Cabot wrote:

maklo99 wrote:last monday was so maybe today also will be. But I don't know.

last weekend was advertisement for the webcam show visible on the screen.
this weekend was no advertisement on the screen iirc.

now is advertisement about sushi show thursday at 16 cet, someone knows the cast of this show ?

maklo99 wrote:last monday was so maybe today also will be. But I don't know.

last weekend was advertisement for the webcam show visible on the screen.
this weekend was no advertisement on the screen iirc.

HvB wrote:Is there a webshow today?
Didn't see any anouncments.

last monday was so maybe today also will be. But I don't know.

Is there a webshow today?
Didn't see any anouncments.

Is somebody knows what kind of show will be today on ppv and what girls will appear in this show ?
I'd like to see there Spirit, Maschiara and Aria full naked.

Yasmine1 wrote:As I wrote in the past they didn't give up the idea yet .. You can notice that in their shows ....

The selection of the not shy girls appearing the last months could be an indication for a new concept via webcam. But it surely has to be less expensive.

As I wrote in the past they didn't give up the idea yet .. You can notice that in their shows ....

maklo99 wrote:

maklo99 wrote:Promotion on livestrip.com and etvgirl.com.

[hidden link - please register]

5 coins free every day. That's nice. 7x5=35
If I buy for example 10 coins. 10+35=45-7 (1 spent for each day)=38 Nice

Where is trick ?

sorry no 7 days but 8 days, I bought only 10 coins for 5 euro, and today I have 34 coins, so on tuesday I will have 42 coins. That's mean I earn 32 coins for free. Nice.

What are you doing with the coins.
I doubt that they restart the webcam experiment.
But who knows what will happen. At the moment it's an unused source of revenue.

maklo99 wrote:Promotion on livestrip.com and etvgirl.com.

[hidden link - please register]

5 coins free every day. That's nice. 7x5=35
If I buy for example 10 coins. 10+35=45-7 (1 spent for each day)=38 Nice

Where is trick ?

sorry no 7 days but 8 days, I bought only 10 coins for 5 euro, and today I have 34 coins, so on tuesday I will have 42 coins. That's mean I earn 32 coins for free. Nice.

Right expectations. Please add an abstract next time.

Promotion on livestrip.com and etvgirl.com.

[hidden link - please register]

5 coins free every day. That's nice. 7x5=35
If I buy for example 10 coins. 10+35=45-7 (1 spent for each day)=38 Nice

Where is trick ?

Jack_Hacket wrote:Maybe it time for some words about the latest brain-storm at Franz towers. I know that most of you do not wish to read this and I fully expect that neither do they but here goes all the same.

First of all, irrespective of whether it is nudity or not, we should remind ourselves on the under-lying principle behind a FTA live show. The potential caller has the opportunity to look in and judge on what he sees. If he likes what he sees - that may just be his favourite girl or even due to the interactive nature of the beast, he can dial in and contribute to the content. He can do that in the first minute of a program, he can do it at the last minute. He has total freedom when he does it. Those that just look in do not really have any say in this. The service exists to encourage the mere non-paying viewer into becoming a paying-caller.

In a pure PPV envoirement the emphasis is totally different. Looking at what happened before - and from both sides of the curtain - the relationship between the caller and the model is destroyed. Although the girl had a headset, I hardly think there were many calls as the person who could now see had already paid and the lesson from the earliest days at INXTC should have been learnt that the caller simply does pay twice. Some of the girls would put on a show in the hope that someone put a coin in the peepshow while others could be seen to just wait and hope. But the viewer cannot judge the content. He must pay up-front and if he does not like what he sees he is not likely to repeat the excercise.

So it is no surprise that that scheme of things did not work out.

Of course, in the financial plan of things it should have worked. We can keep the maths quite simple and this is partially based on common knowledge. The payout for the new service was said to be 40 cents per minute. Assuming the payout for standard calls was on average 120 cents a minute, you only needed 3 viewers to cover that lost call, a call that could only be made by one person since that was the whole purpose a one2one realtionship.

But most web-cam channels do not operate in the strictly PPV envoirment. There is a voyeur mode. A mode to encourage the viewer to become a caller. And that mode is usually free. When that viewer becomes a paying customer he has that one2one relationship since all the voyeurs are now blocked out.

So if at first you do not succeed, try try again. Except that the new version is still just a rehash of the one that was before. Except now there are no headsets and a total reliance on the people who put their coins in the peepshow slot. The rehash element is due to the simple fact that every minute of your viewing time must be paid for and the simple thing is that there would be very few people who could afford to pay for much. Consider, no names mentioned, the really heavy VIP rollers who could send up to five such messaged in a show. That could equate to almost one hour of viewing. But for the average viewer the tv can, in my estimation, only rely on some 10 minutes which itself vastly exceeds the average call length or so I have been told.

But even if that caller spends his 10 minutes, that money has the potential to be taken away from the main service so everyone who is working on that day sees a reduction in their income.

The biggest mistake that has been made is to provide this service through a web-cam providor or a providor that does not offer a free voyeur mode and one where the viewing experience is hardly smooth (atleast it is from here). If they are serious to provide a web-based show they need to reconsider this and have total control of the income and display. The option taken is the easy option as they do not have to concern themselves with age-verification matters which could be an issue for German internet in day-time slots and that is what probably stops them in offering a low-cost single payment or even free and rely on the calls as they do for the standard show.

But here is the final thought. It was said to me not long after the day-time issue arose that the volume of calls had not been affected so much as there was now an audience who were much more comfortable to talk to a clothed girl than an un-clothed one. Now, if that had not been the case, one would have expected the tv to have folded. But from where I sit, I do see a significant volume of calls during the day which begs the question "If it aint broke then why try to fix it?" since the chances are when you do take something apart it can rarely be reassembled in the same manner as before.

Or to put that into simple English,and this is the bit they will not like, you run the extreme risk of destroying what service you still have.

copy and paste it on official forum, maybe someone listen for you.

They are offline since a long time now.

Hm, is there a black hole in Molvanian. Or takes 4 hours in Molvanian only 2 hours??

How was a phrase in a song some years ago.

There is a tale that wasn´t right.

Nothing more to say. :-)

Maybe it time for some words about the latest brain-storm at Franz towers. I know that most of you do not wish to read this and I fully expect that neither do they but here goes all the same.

First of all, irrespective of whether it is nudity or not, we should remind ourselves on the under-lying principle behind a FTA live show. The potential caller has the opportunity to look in and judge on what he sees. If he likes what he sees - that may just be his favourite girl or even due to the interactive nature of the beast, he can dial in and contribute to the content. He can do that in the first minute of a program, he can do it at the last minute. He has total freedom when he does it. Those that just look in do not really have any say in this. The service exists to encourage the mere non-paying viewer into becoming a paying-caller.

In a pure PPV envoirement the emphasis is totally different. Looking at what happened before - and from both sides of the curtain - the relationship between the caller and the model is destroyed. Although the girl had a headset, I hardly think there were many calls as the person who could now see had already paid and the lesson from the earliest days at INXTC should have been learnt that the caller simply does pay twice. Some of the girls would put on a show in the hope that someone put a coin in the peepshow while others could be seen to just wait and hope. But the viewer cannot judge the content. He must pay up-front and if he does not like what he sees he is not likely to repeat the excercise.

So it is no surprise that that scheme of things did not work out.

Of course, in the financial plan of things it should have worked. We can keep the maths quite simple and this is partially based on common knowledge. The payout for the new service was said to be 40 cents per minute. Assuming the payout for standard calls was on average 120 cents a minute, you only needed 3 viewers to cover that lost call, a call that could only be made by one person since that was the whole purpose a one2one realtionship.

But most web-cam channels do not operate in the strictly PPV envoirment. There is a voyeur mode. A mode to encourage the viewer to become a caller. And that mode is usually free. When that viewer becomes a paying customer he has that one2one relationship since all the voyeurs are now blocked out.

So if at first you do not succeed, try try again. Except that the new version is still just a rehash of the one that was before. Except now there are no headsets and a total reliance on the people who put their coins in the peepshow slot. The rehash element is due to the simple fact that every minute of your viewing time must be paid for and the simple thing is that there would be very few people who could afford to pay for much. Consider, no names mentioned, the really heavy VIP rollers who could send up to five such messaged in a show. That could equate to almost one hour of viewing. But for the average viewer the tv can, in my estimation, only rely on some 10 minutes which itself vastly exceeds the average call length or so I have been told.

But even if that caller spends his 10 minutes, that money has the potential to be taken away from the main service so everyone who is working on that day sees a reduction in their income.

The biggest mistake that has been made is to provide this service through a web-cam providor or a providor that does not offer a free voyeur mode and one where the viewing experience is hardly smooth (atleast it is from here). If they are serious to provide a web-based show they need to reconsider this and have total control of the income and display. The option taken is the easy option as they do not have to concern themselves with age-verification matters which could be an issue for German internet in day-time slots and that is what probably stops them in offering a low-cost single payment or even free and rely on the calls as they do for the standard show.

But here is the final thought. It was said to me not long after the day-time issue arose that the volume of calls had not been affected so much as there was now an audience who were much more comfortable to talk to a clothed girl than an un-clothed one. Now, if that had not been the case, one would have expected the tv to have folded. But from where I sit, I do see a significant volume of calls during the day which begs the question "If it aint broke then why try to fix it?" since the chances are when you do take something apart it can rarely be reassembled in the same manner as before.

Or to put that into simple English,and this is the bit they will not like, you run the extreme risk of destroying what service you still have.