ETV Gold

the question is "one and only": Whould you buy, at any amount, a box without knowing the content?
What they are doing sounds like a commercial Harakiri. No advertising, no marketing, limited numbers of customers, warning to Gold members not to spread any video on web.
One old sentence says that the advertising is the soul of the commerce. Is it true or a new era is coming?

I am not complaining, I'll do it if some model involved in "golden 17-some show" would turn back soft in main show.
About this I will have zero tolerance.


As I have zero tolerance for a basic service turned into premium as TV Guide.
Cialtrons.

I do not understand why once again all those cries and screams. Better not wait until tonight? And then we'll see.
Until everything started. It is during the test. And now the same complaints!

outside wrote:Well, I admit I am disappointed, I would expect Jane with a full set of dildos, zucchini and other vegetables.

nahhhh... give her an aubergine, I'd like to keep the zucchini for myself... to eat of course

satya1002005 wrote:

pepers wrote:

Tarl_Cabot wrote:if a company wants to offer a new product they will have to test it at a small group of persons.
if the small group is fascinated they will continue this way. if not they will change the product before they try to reach the masses.

This product (payment for a broadcasting) was already tested last year. It failed in every directions.
It was also the same fail in the very beggining of the channel. So how many tests they need to learn finally the only future of this channel is a broadcasting for a free masses and not for a small group of registered persons.

@Pepers

This is different from the earlier one in many ways

The earlier one was just like PPV but this one is PPV+ the normal calling and SMS

As a Go(l)d member, you are paying only for calling and SMS as per different options available in the web site.

The special show is totally free

Today show is the GREAT MASHI at 21.00 Hrs

I suggest non members to wait for the feed back as no one is allowed to post Video for fear of loosing the membership..

I am seeing the members start increasing today.

Well, I admit I am disappointed, I would expect Jane with a full set of dildos, zucchini and other vegetables.

satya1002005 wrote:no one is allowed to post Video for fear of loosing the membership.

If someone loses the membership....do they send back the unspent credit?

Tarl_Cabot wrote:

Joker1305 wrote:@Legxpert: Are you a paying customer of ETV or only a watcher? If you are not a paying customer, please leave these negative comments on the girls and ...

shit. you allowed leggie to continue his way.

But you are the moderator ;)
It was worth a try. But he wouldn't have changed anyway.
Basically who is paying can expect more than a spectator, but insulting of girls who aren't according to his taste is really poor.

Regards
Joker

pepers wrote:There are no wrong people, only wrong ways how to attract them.
I agree, to atract 17 people is much more easier, but if this is enough how to run a succesful business, that's the guestion. I doubt.

but which way should they use?
their database of viewers are the ETV Gold members and some but probably only a few viewers who sent their mail adresses for e.g. photos.
they tried several ways in the last month to get some mail adresses of viewers and so potential customers.
they cannot pin flyers at the wall of the City of Molvania to get some test viewers and they cannot commission a marketing institut for asking viewers. should we offer our forum database including the mail adresses to etv and they can maybe ask every forum member with more than 250 posts? if they want to try something and want to get some opinion they must use an existing database and the only database they own is the ETV Gold database. they had in the past their forum but that was of course just a collection of complainers, persons who wanted to get some real names or some idiots who used it for advertising porn including child or pet porn. and seriously nobody was interested in having more contact to that fine collection.

in the past many wrote that they would spend some money for better shows or having some wishes fulfilled. nowadays they can buy the cheapest package and can be in that position for at least three month. the ceapest package is 49 euro iirc so ~16 euro a month or ~50 cent a day. I for myself pay a premium account at RS & MU to keep the video files save and that's nearly the same a month.
so everybody must decide: either I pay some money and try to get some influence or I keep my money and accept what I'll get for free.
it's like everywhere in life. if I want something I will probably have to spend some money for it and complaining is always for free but most of the time just some hot air.

Joker1305 wrote:@Legxpert: Are you a paying customer of ETV or only a watcher? If you are not a paying customer, please leave these negative comments on the girls and ...

shit. you allowed leggie to continue his way.

Tarl_Cabot wrote:a few right people are a better choice than masses of wrong people.

There are no wrong people, only wrong ways how to attract them.
I agree, to atract 17 people is much more easier, but if this is enough how to run a succesful business, that's the guestion. I doubt.

@Legxpert: Are you a paying customer of ETV or only a watcher? If you are not a paying customer, please leave these negative comments on the girls and do some sport to get rid of your negative mood.
You are complaining of this and that, making negative comments on most of the models and you seem to think your bias is the only one in the world.
E.g. I never really liked Scarlet, but for me Tia, Kristina and Randa are still within the hottest girls of ETV (Angelina, Gia, Maschiara and Nancy anyway), also Kia is usually nice to watch, but except of Randa they get usually rather few camera time.
Also Gia's shows without cutting in slices by switching the camera were great.
So I think there is some potential if they can give more consecutive camera time to each girl.

Regards
Joker

but if we are all honest, the only model that can generate revenue with ppv appearences is Mashiara. obviously she hasn't reached her full potential under tv rules, so we can expect "more" of her on a webstream.

but who else is there to satisfy our demands? and who else we want to see doing "more"?

right next to Mashi in the mowcav*-factor is Gia, but she is not willing to give us more than she already does.

another reason to go for gold would be if a suhosomo** goes wild like Evah, Brona, Karry, Cleopatra... but this will never happen.

finally many of their fahocacos*** who could offer us something sexy like Scarlet or Amy already left.

so it's all up to Mashi and maybe Angelina. but else? come on, Tia, Kia or Sabrina have past their best. And we all agree that Clodia, Jane, Janine, Kristina, Spirit, Lin and Randa aren't the real deal.

so the potential customers come down to the fans of Mashiara...


*model who can attract vieewers
**super-hot-soft-model
***famouse-hot-cashcows

Legxpert wrote:

Tarl_Cabot wrote:if a company wants to offer a new product they will have to test it at a small group of persons.
if the small group is fascinated they will continue this way. if not they will change the product before they try to reach the masses.

but 17 human guinea pigs is actually a VERY small group of persons to test something...

it depends on what this group is compared to.
to the masses of viewers or to the little group that spends money for etv.

everyone of these 17 (btw: only 17 members in the ETV forum isn't a proof for only 17 persons with ETV Gold. compare the number of forum members at lstv with the number of active forum members) was in the past a viewer and became a customer. these persons made the one important step for etv and decieded to spend money. so no other group represents the people etv is interested in better than these people. and a few right people are a better choice than masses of wrong people.

satya1002005 wrote:Today show is the GREAT MASHI at 21.00 Hrs

I suggest non members to wait for the feed back as no one is allowed to post Video for fear of loosing the membership..

I am seeing the members start increasing today.

doubtful. there will be nothing to see that wasn't already seen before, everyone knows Mashi inside-out and evidence can be find right here in the forums video-threads.

also ETV is a bit late with offering ppv content over the web, because each and everyone of us can already look for whatever perv fantasy he has on the web and finds it 24/7.

and let's see, of the 17 gold members I guess most of them booked those packages because they are fanboys of certain models and like to speak and write with them to a fair price and they are not pussy-lovers who look for "hot" content.

also, if you are a pussy-lover again the web is your friend and you find thousands of girls who show you whatever you want and do whatever you want.

Tarl_Cabot wrote:[quote='pepers']if a company wants to offer a new product they will have to test it at a small group of persons.
if the small group is fascinated they will continue this way. if not they will change the product before they try to reach the masses.

but 17 human guinea pigs is actually a VERY small group of persons to test something...

pepers wrote:

Tarl_Cabot wrote:if a company wants to offer a new product they will have to test it at a small group of persons.
if the small group is fascinated they will continue this way. if not they will change the product before they try to reach the masses.

This product (payment for a broadcasting) was already tested last year. It failed in every directions.
It was also the same fail in the very beggining of the channel. So how many tests they need to learn finally the only future of this channel is a broadcasting for a free masses and not for a small group of registered persons.

@Pepers

This is different from the earlier one in many ways

The earlier one was just like PPV but this one is PPV+ the normal calling and SMS

As a Go(l)d member, you are paying only for calling and SMS as per different options available in the web site.

The special show is totally free

Today show is the GREAT MASHI at 21.00 Hrs

I suggest non members to wait for the feed back as no one is allowed to post Video for fear of loosing the membership..

I am seeing the members start increasing today.