Back to fetish , Back to vulgarity

I wonder if anybody of us could remember that night when Lace announced the new censorship rules while she was reading a letter from one fan of ETV ...I specifically remember when she said during that night....I myself have been criticized for crossing the limits of the rules in many times which was one of the reason for this new level of censorship .

It's quite good for anyone to recognize his mistakes and errors specially when these kind of mistakes have caused a huge damage for the whole community around .

However it seems that lace didn’t learn this hard lesson , and decided to return back to her old habit and play role of the master of torture once again …

And proves that she can't ever give up to make such a real disasters , like the one of yesterday show , I wouldn't even be surprised if a new level of censorship will be imposed in ETV after last night show .

I wonder is this really what we can call a fetish show .. I also wonder , why every fetish show we should see the same idea with lace and her girls , with the same tools , with the same direction style .

yesterday , lace has crossed all the limits for such an erotic show in a free to air channel , and the final result was a complete disaster ....

- Very Ugly and horrible long fights between Gia and Lace ......very vulgar and long hugging between Angelina , Gia and Lace on the ground in such a very rude scene simply not suitable at all for a free to air channel ...... stupid touch between all models .....and the return of the banned candle wax shows between Angelina and Lace

For my knowledge about the fetish shows there are many ideas in which you could execute the idea of dominance and submissions away from that initial level .

You can make such a creative show which includes the most boldest fetish ideas and play it all at the symbolic level , without crossing the limits which has been set for a free to air channel

The idea is not just writing harsh comments contains a very negative and unjustified criticism about the show and the performers ....but the idea is that ...the good and constructive criticisms will always save the chance to bring the ship back to the right direction .

Therefore , Lace must reconsider her position and her behavior once again in ETV world …and try to play another role more suitable for her very good qualities rather than role of the big bad mama .

And If ETV do care to continue as a free to air channel , they must eliminate and filter all that rubbish stuff from their screen ....but the most of all …

there has to be a strong action from the management against .…lace , Gia , Angelina …for their vulgar actions and irresponsible behavior in last night show . and Julia also must be included in the list due to her totally mismanagement for the show and letting this horrible disaster comes out to the screen .

hanshel wrote:...
Brothers I don´t think Gia is a little defenseless girl !
...

but... i remember in past Lace was playin' in "i hit you" games with other ladies (do not remember with who) but i remember that she (lady who got hit) wasnt happy to get slap (many slaps) in the face... it was like (that other person) she want to say to Lace, for example, 'f**k u b**ch'

sucker wrote:

hubsonek wrote:... dont slap gia in her lovely fave! I hate that if uyou want do this: slap hans...

Indeed in every kind of play is a line that should not been crossed!

Brothers I don´t think Gia is a little defenseless girl !
On the contrary,if she not like such games - be sure... it never happens !
In this kind of playing she is a little bit freaky and it seems she like such provocating games very much !
Ok allowed or not allowed you can read on another piece of paper !
ETV has internally to regulate this ! I am only simple viewer and not the big judge !
For me only neccesary and important: For Gia it´s no problem than for me it´s no problem

Gentleman, I wish us a hot Queen tonight !

sucker wrote :
If some one is honestly interested to save this sinking ship – to my opinion they are sinking - so why not have such notes here?

thanks gentleman for your genius comment , and your great follow up on my post , you simply have said exactly what I want to say in much more excellent expression than me .

in fact , I owe you an apology , about criticizing the queen ( I mean yr queen ) here in this thread , and I promise I won't ever cross the limits again but frankly it was also objective criticism concerning her unacceptable behavior in that show .

I want to say something here ...I have no problem... if you do like it ... and I don't like it at all specially with the way they used to present the fetish shows in ETV . tastes will always be different . and they have to provide the different kind of approaches which satisfy the different kind of tastes . I can't prevent what is appeal to the other tastes .

However and according to lace words before that , this kind of shows , have bring a lot of troubles for ETV , specially in that conservative political atmosphere around us , hence repeating it in the same way would certainly deserve a punch of the critical words ...doesn't it ?

there was vip sms: my wish for the shows? lace, dont slap gia in her lovely fave! I hate that if uyou want do this: slap hans...

Hey guys, i think you should constitute a team. After that, take a ticket for the "longest post in the universe contest". You got a chance, no doubt...
And don't forget to ask tony to join your team

An industrious night to you

Thanks for starting this discussion.
I saw the Saturday night show for a short time.
Absolutey to be condemmed
I dont want that the requests, starting from today of watchers, didn't encourage show of bondage, torture,
feets, wax, choked models, name of watchers on paper sheets or others perversion.
This for me is not erotism, and ETV doesn't broadcast such a show
Hoping in chance of course, anyway we will see

zxcv wrote:>snip<

I ask because some forum members spend a lot of time with writing their posts and searching for argument but posting in this forum without giving these thoughts to etv is a little bit like lost time because we cannot change anything.

If you collect arguments about the changing rules at etv (which change not only in the fetish shows but also often with every director, moderator or even model in every other show at etv) it will be the best and probably the only successful way to send this arguments to etv, too.

Everybody should feel free to send his comments to etv (to info@eurotic.tv or for comments about the current show (things like light, sound or camera settings) to showteam@eurotic.tv ).
Today and tomorrow the viewers and so the members of this forum get the (probably only) chance to have more influence on the show. iirc wrote nighthawk that this can happen by calling a model, sending a VIP or even by sending a mail to etv. Of course I assume that most forum members and all who complain often stay quiet today but if the information with "also sending a mail is possible" is right today will be the chance to influence something even for free.
So everyone should use this chance especially as they read the mails today hopefully more careful than often in the past.

Tarl_Cabot wrote
that's the reason why you wrote your mail to etv?

I always believe , that the well written and honest words will make difference , no matter in anywhere or anytime it have been written , but it will make a difference , because it's simply honest and accurate words .

I also write what I feel , whether it's positive or negative , and I know that the majority of my comments is in the negative side , ...however ....keeping the very harsh but the honest comments in your forum , specially when it's in sometimes directed to you as a mods for this forum ....for sure would reflect the real professional spirit of this team , and this something deserve a big credit .

zxcv wrote:SO , calling for a strong reaction from the management towards this kind of behavior is something completely justified and fair .

that's the reason why you wrote your mail to etv?

hanshel wrote:
I have seen other things much more ugly and horrible in free TV channels right now !
The Julia show was a boring disaster at all because of other reasons !
Killing the few interesting scenes by horrible way to direct the camera
Order the models to stop hot performence - maybe to catch more sms or callers
It was like a bad and boring Hanss show - my opinion !

ETV used to provide low quality shows in 2011 , maybe it's simply their choice for this year , but what has happened in that show is a different story .

robertsmith wrote:
disaster show ok , but where is the strong action . this is a very soft show , only few naked actions and when Nancy wanted to get naked the camera always went away! this is a scandal

the point is not to provide a soft show or a hot show , or a topless show ..The point is..to comply with the rules …in order to stay alive . Especially in this conservative political atmosphere around us.

let's remember what lace has said about the new censorship rules :

No breast touch at all , candle wax shows is completely banned , No vulgar hugging between the models ...etc .

return to the show , all these stuff has happened in the show , which means one thing , they simply violate the rules for the second time .

The rules is rules …….and I don't think at all , that the regulators has changed their mind yet , and allowed these stuff to be displayed again in ETV screen .

There is no excuse for anyone fully aware that he/she is breaking the rules , and keeps doing the same damaging errors for the second time .

SO , calling for a strong reaction from the management towards this kind of behavior is something completely justified and fair .

I agree in some part of your topic, but not in everything. I agree Lace should reconsider of what she is doing there or maybe someone in front of her in regie stuff. I think Nancy with great camerawork is ready to do some spectacular stuff as was Spirit the night before but together with scandalous camerawork they make another poor nightshow. I dont think actions were too strong for free to air; what I saw was that girls were doing those actions DRESSED; mostly. This is at least strange, and by far not erotic. We probably agree here 100%. You speak how these actions are inappropriate for free to air channel. It indeed is a scandal that they allove such crap going live in so many countries, but also majorly for other reasons you dont write. Lack of quality of models, almost no nudity, no quality camerawork, horrible music many times, no coordination betwwen models and directors, writing every possible crap on screens ( here we agree). They even are not in position to see that some sms is from maybe one or two shifts before, maybe from one day before. But showing such old sms with no meaning sometimes interrupts some live hot stuff. Poor really. And there is for me absolutely no excuse for putting models that dont go at least topless after 22.00 CET. It is cheating. Those 10 models must be fired or scheduled for daytime stuff nobody watches. And yesterday it also looked to me as to a poster before that it lookd more like boring Hans show rather then anything else. Boring and to damn slooooooooow. it is like stretching half hour of program into 5 hours of complete boredom. For a fetish show it was a catastrophy. And at the end the thing we agree 100%; fighting stupid looking stuff going on...no words, agree with your statement. Ok I have just one simple thing to say; like they do it now especially yesterday, etv is dead.

zxcv wrote:- Very Ugly and horrible long fights between Gia and Lace ......very vulgar and long hugging between Angelina , Gia and Lace on the ground in such a very rude scene simply not suitable at all for a free to air channel ......

I have seen other things much more ugly and horrible in free TV channels right now !
The Julia show was a boring disaster at all because of other reasons !
Killing the few interesting scenes by horrible way to direct the camera
Order the models to stop hot performence - maybe to catch more sms or callers
It was like a bad and boring Hanss show - my opinion !

disaster show ok , but where is the strong action . this is a very soft show , only few naked actions and when Nancy wanted to get naked the camera always went away! this is a scandal