Formula 1 General Chat & Discussion

What happens with the tires?
They have already burst three.
It seems that Pirelli is going to have problems to explain it.

3 Left rear tires in 16 laps have failed on different cars and different compounds safety car now this will be interesting.

Paul di Resta excluded from qualifying as car underweight :
Paul di Resta has been excluded from qualifying at the British Grand Prix after his Force India was found to be under the minimum weight limit. The Scot had secured fifth on the grid at Silverstone but his car came in 1.5kg underweight in post-qualifying scrutineering. Even with a mandatory fuel sample on board, the car weighed only 641.5 kg - which is 0.5 kg below the minimum weight. After the FIA drained the car of fuel, it was found it weighed just 640kg, two kilogrammes under the limit.
With a 0.5kg tolerance accepted for the scales' accuracy, it was ruled that the car was officially 1.5kg underweight.
After the matter was referred to the race stewards, it was decided that the team had been in breach of the regulations and di Resta was thrown out of the results. He can now start the British GP from the back of the grid. It is understood the issue revolved around the weight of di Resta himself after qualifying - as the driver and car are combined to reach the 642kg limit. There are suggestions that di Resta's weight check at the end of qualifying was 1.5kg below his normal weight - which he had been after free practice.
Although some consideration was given to appealing the matter because of the discrepancy, Force India in the end has decided to accept the verdict - meaning di Resta will start his home race last.

Revised starting grid after Paul di Resta penalty :
1. Lewis Hamilton - Mercedes
2. Nico Rosberg - Mercedes
3. Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull-Renault
4. Mark Webber - Red Bull-Renault
5. Daniel Ricciardo - Toro Rosso-Ferrari
6. Adrian Sutil - Force India-Mercedes
7. Romain Grosjean - Lotus-Renault
8. Kimi Raikkonen - Lotus-Renault
9. Fernando Alonso - Ferrari
10. Jenson Button - McLaren-Mercedes
11. Felipe Massa - Ferrari
12. Jean-Eric Vergne - Toro Rosso-Ferrari
13. Sergio Perez - McLaren-Mercedes
14. Nico Hulkenberg - Sauber-Ferrari
15. Pastor Maldonado - Williams-Renault
16. Valtteri Bottas - Williams-Renault
17. Esteban Gutierrez - Sauber-Ferrari
18. Charles Pic - Caterham-Renault
19. Jules Bianchi - Marussia-Cosworth
20. Max Chilton - Marussia-Cosworth
21. Giedo van der Garde - Caterham-Renault
22. Paul di Resta - Force India-Mercedes

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Shaky-Schumi

The British Grand Prix grid changed post-qualifying. Paul Di Resta, fifth in qualifying, will be forced to start from the back of the grid after his car was found to be underweight.

Result of the Qualifying :

1. Lewis Hamilton : Mercedes GP - 1:29.607 -
2. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP - 1:30.059 + 0.452
3. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing - 1:30.211 + 0.604
4. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing - 1:30.220 + 0.613
5. Paul di Resta : Force India - 1:30.736 + 1.129
6. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso - 1:30.757 + 1.150
7. Adrian Sutil : Force India - 1:30.908 + 1.301
8. Romain Grosjean : Lotus - 1:30.955 + 1.348
9. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus - 1:30.962 + 1.355
10. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari - 1:30.979 + 1.372
Q2
11. Jenson Button : McLaren - 1:31.649 + 2.042
12. Felipe Massa : Ferrari - 1:31.779 + 2.172
13. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso - 1:31.785 + 2.178
14. Sergio Perez : McLaren - 1:32.082 + 2.475
15. Nico Hulkenberg : Sauber - 1:32.211 + 2.604
16. Pastor Maldonado : Williams - 1:32.359 + 2.752
17. Valtteri Bottas : Williams - 1:32.664 + 3.057
Q1
18. Esteban Gutierrez : Sauber - 1:32.666 -
19. Charles Pic : Caterham - 1:33.866 + 4.259
20. Jules Bianchi : Marussia F1 Team - 1:34.108 + 4.501
21. Giedo van der Garde : Caterham - 1:35.481 + 5.874
22. Max Chilton : Marussia F1 Team - 1:35.858 + 6.251

Pole Time : 1:29.607
Pole : Lewis Hamilton
Team Bat . : Maldonado > Bottas
Grid Pos. Charles Pic : 19th place

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Shaky-Schumi

The result of the 3rd practice session :

Nico Rosberg pips Lewis Hamilton in final practice :
Nico Rosberg snatched the top spot from Mercedes team-mate Lewis Hamilton in the final seconds of British Grand Prix practice three at Silverstone. Hamilton had established himself as the fastest man by the end of the hard-tyre runs with a 1m31.750s lap.
He looked set to improve on that when on mediums late on, but slid over the run-off at Brooklands. While Hamilton gathered himeself up for another go, Rosberg came through with a 1m31.487s to grab first place. Hamilton also improved on his last lap but had to settle for second on a 1m31.633s, 0.146 seconds off his team-mate. Mercedes enjoyed a half-second cushion over the rest of the field. Sebastian Vettel secured third with his last lap, just ahead of Red Bull team-mate Mark Webber. Romain Grosjean was fifth for Lotus, while Toro Rosso's impressive weekend continued as Daniel Ricciardo took sixth. The session had to be red-flagged early on after Sergio Perez's left rear tyre blew. The incident will be a concern to Pirelli on the weekend when it introduces its new bonding process, designed to prevent delaminations. A brief stoppage was required to remove tyre debris from the circuit.
Perez's McLaren sustained quite a lot of damage at its rear end, but was able to rejoin for the final minutes, only for the Mexican to slide off at Becketts. Fernando Alonso also had a moment at the same spot before putting his Ferrari seventh. Kimi Raikkonen's Lotus and the Force Indias of Adrian Sutil and Paul di Resta completed the top 10. Home driver Jenson Button was back in 12th for McLaren. Felipe Massa spent the final minutes parked in the Ferrari garage with an apparent .

1. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP - 1:31.487 -
2. Lewis Hamilton : Mercedes GP - 1:31.633 + 0.146
3. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing - 1:32.037 + 0.550
4. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing - 1:32.078 + 0.591
5. Romain Grosjean : Lotus - 1:32.391 + 0.904
6. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso - 1:32.440 + 0.953
7. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari - 1:32.454 + 0.967
8. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus - 1:32.459 + 0.972
9. Adrian Sutil : Force India - 1:32.536 + 1.049
10. Paul di Resta : Force India - 1:32.571 + 1.084
11. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso - 1:32.580 + 1.093
12. Jenson Button : McLaren - 1:32.926 + 1.439
13. Pastor Maldonado : Williams - 1:33.133 + 1.646
14. Nico Hulkenberg : Sauber - 1:33.225 + 1.738
15. Felipe Massa : Ferrari - 1:33.273 + 1.786
16. Valtteri Bottas : Williams - 1:33.309 + 1.822
17. Esteban Gutierrez : Sauber - 1:33.370 + 1.883
18. Sergio Perez : McLaren - 1:33.607 + 2.120
19. Charles Pic : Caterham - 1:34.971 + 3.484
20. Jules Bianchi : Marussia F1 Team - 1:34.990 + 3.503
21. Max Chilton : Marussia F1 Team - 1:36.694 + 5.207
22. Giedo van der Garde : Caterham - 1:37.443 + 5.956

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Shaky-Schumi

The result of the 2nd practice session :

Rosberg puts Mercedes on top in FP2 :
Nico Rosberg put Mercedes on top in a mostly dry second practice session for the British Grand Prix at Silverstone.
After the morning downpour and consequent dearth of running, teams wasted no time in getting straight out on a still-damp track at the start of the afternoon. The circuit was dry enough for slicks within 10 minutes and Rosberg was among the pacesetters from the outset. Force India's Adrian Sutil, morning practice leader Daniel Ricciardo of Toro Rosso and world champion Sebastian Vettel all had multiple spells on top as the times settled down over the following half an hour. But then with 40 minutes remaining, Rosberg put in a 1m32.248s to claim a first place he would not lose, as teams then made their habitual switch to longer runs.
Vettel was second at that point, but his Red Bull team-mate Mark Webber demoted him to third when he rejoined after a long spell in the garage. Force India took fourth and eighth on the first day of running at its home track, with Paul di Resta quicker than Sutil by the end. Di Resta's fellow Briton Lewis Hamilton was just one place further back in fifth, but Jenson Button's McLaren was only 11th.
Ricciardo and Toro Rosso team-mate Jean-Eric Vergne showed very encouraging pace in sixth and seventh. Lotus duo Romain Grosjean and Kimi Raikkonen were down in ninth and 13th. Ferrari had a disappointing session too. Fernando Alonso was only 10th, while his team-mate Felipe Massa crashed at Stowe after just seven laps. The Brazilian ran slightly wide through the corner when the track was still a little damp and spun back into the opposite wall, mangling the Ferrari's front end.

1. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP - 1:32.248 -
2. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing - 1:32.547 + 0.299
3. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing - 1:32.680 + 0.432
4. Paul di Resta : Force India - 1:32.832 + 0.584
5. Lewis Hamilton : Mercedes GP - 1:32.911 + 0.663
6. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso - 1:33.171 + 0.923
7. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso - 1:33.290 + 1.042
8. Adrian Sutil : Force India - 1:33.313 + 1.065
9. Romain Grosjean : Lotus - 1:33.322 + 1.074
10. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari - 1:33.494 + 1.246
11. Jenson Button : McLaren - 1:33.740 + 1.492
12. Nico Hulkenberg : Sauber - 1:33.896 + 1.648
13. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus - 1:34.120 + 1.872
14. Sergio Perez : McLaren - 1:34.130 + 1.882
15. Esteban Gutierrez : Sauber - 1:34.998 + 2.750
16. Valtteri Bottas : Williams - 1:35.070 + 2.822
17. Pastor Maldonado : Williams - 1:35.127 + 2.879
18. Jules Bianchi : Marussia F1 Team - 1:35.802 + 3.554
19. Giedo van der Garde : Caterham - 1:35.984 + 3.736
20. Charles Pic : Caterham - 1:36.079 + 3.831
21. Max Chilton : Marussia F1 Team - 1:37.329 + 5.081
22. Felipe Massa : Ferrari - 1:43.466 + 11.218 ( )

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Shaky-Schumi

Here's the result of the 1st practice session of today :

Daniel Ricciardo leads rain-hit first practice :
Daniel Ricciardo set the fastest time in a wet British Grand Prix practice session that looked for a long spell like it might feature no flying laps whatsoever. Teams do not expect the heavy rain that began Friday morning to continue into the weekend, giving even less reason than usual to take to a wet track in practice one. After initial installation laps, most drivers chose to wait in the pits, leaving the large crowd to entertain themselves before an empty track. Finally with less than a quarter of an hour left Toro Rosso's Ricciardo became the first man to actually set a lap time, crossing the line in 2m00.029s. That prompted others to come out, and ultimately 11 drivers completed flying laps through the puddles. Lewis Hamilton was fastest on a 1m55.033s in his Mercedes going into the final moments, but Ricciardo regained his top spot with a 1m54.249s. Sauber's Nico Hulkenberg and Williams driver Pastor Maldonado then slipped into second and third, demoting Hamilton to fourth. Esteban Gutierrez and Valtteri Bottas completed the top six, despite a late spin for the former. Kimi Raikkonen was the only driver not to take to the track at all. His Lotus team-mate Romain Grosjean, Jenson Button, Mark Webber and Sergio Perez all confined themselves to a single tour then stayed in the pits. Proving that track conditions definitely were treacherous, Charles Pic crashed his Caterham at Club late on. The Frenchman was unhurt.

1. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso - 1:54.249 -
2. Nico Hulkenberg : Sauber - 1:55.033 + 0.784
3. Pastor Maldonado : Williams - 1:55.354 + 1.105
4. Lewis Hamilton : Mercedes GP - 1:55.458 + 1.209
5. Esteban Gutierrez : Sauber - 1:55.825 + 1.576
6. Valtteri Bottas : Williams - 1:56.361 + 2.112
7. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso - 1:57.891 + 3.642
8. Giedo van der Garde : Caterham - 1:58.859 + 4.610
9. Max Chilton : Marussia F1 Team - 1:59.719 + 5.470
10. Jules Bianchi : Marussia F1 Team - 1:59.876 + 5.627
11. Felipe Massa : Ferrari - 2:06.534 + 12.285
12. Charles Pic : Caterham - no time set -
13. Adrian Sutil : Force India -no time set -
14. Paul di Resta : Force India - no time set -
15. Romain Grosjean : Lotus - no time set -
16. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari - no time set -
17. Sergio Perez McLaren - no time set -
18. Jenson Button McLaren - no time set -
19. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing - no time set -
20. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing - no time set -
21. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus - no time set -
22. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP - no time set -

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

British Grand Prix – Silverstone circuit – 28-29 and 30 june
The British GP is the oldest race on the Formula 1 calendar together with the Italian GP. Since 1950, when the world Championship started, the British GP was held every years, without interruptions. This will be the 64th edition. (46 Silvestone, 12 Brands Hatch and 5 Aintree).Over the years, the Silverstone Circuit, has been changed several times. Despite modifications the track is famous for its high-speed turns and the average speed is one of the high of the season. Woodcote, Copse and Stowe, are fast curves and the Maggots-Becketts-Chapel complex is one of the series of corners most technical and demanding both for cars and drivers in the entire Championship. Tyre: hard compound(orange stripe) and medium compound(white stripe) the most conservative choice in use because they are "best suited to the high-energy demands of the Silverstone track." Pirelli have confirmed that they will not be changing the construction of their P Zero tyres, contrary to initial plans. Instead a change in the tyre production process should now ensure that the delamination issue has been resolved. There will be two DRS zones: after Turn 5 (Aintree) on the Wellington Straight, and after Turn 14 (Chapel) on the Hangar Straight.
Winners, Podium and pole position (last 3 editions)
2010 Webber – Red Bull (2° Hamilton and 3°Rosberg) – fastest lap: Alonso – pole: Vettel, time 1m 29.615
2011 Alonso – Ferrari (2° Vettel and 3° Webber) – fastest lap: Alonso – pole: Webber, time 1m 30.399
2012 Webber – Red Bull (2° Alonso and 3° Vettel) - fastest lap: Raikkonen – pole: Alonso(wet track and lap time very high)
In the past one win: Alonso(2006) – Raikkonen(2007) – Hamilton(2008) and Vettel(2009)
it is quite difficult to predict the pole position time because the track has changed in 2010 and over the past two years has often rained during practice and qualifying. The most significant lap time remains Webber's pole position two years ago: 1m 30.399.
And now other stats. Red Bull vs Ferrari Qualifying.
from 2009 to today Ferrari team only 4 pole position (always Alonso 2 in 2010 and 2 in 2012 - both in wet condition)
from 2009 to today Red Bull Team 49 pole position (38 Vettel and 11 Webber)
Over a single lap in qualifying Alonso is almost always behind on the grid.
races from 2009 to today Ferrari team 12 wins (Alonso 11 and Raikkonen 1)
races from 2009 to today Red Bull Team 37 wins (28 Vettel and 9 Webber)
on Sunday the situation usually improves thanks the race pace and reliability.

Webber is stopping at the end of the season !!

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Also with delay the result for our F1 " race " game from the Canadian GP :

1. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull - 1:32:09.143
2. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari +14.408
3. Lewis Hamilton : Mercedes +15.942
4. Mark Webber : Red Bull +25.731
5. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes +1:09.725
6. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso +1lap
7. Paul di Resta : Force India +1 lap
8. Felipe Massa : Ferrari +1 lap
9. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus +1 lap
10. Adrian Sutil : Force India +1 lap
11. Sergio Perez : McLaren +1lap
12. Jenson Button : McLaren +1 lap
13. Romain Grosjean : Lotus +1 lap
14. Valtteri Bottas : Williams +1 lap
15. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso +2 laps
16. Pastor Maldonado : Williams +2 laps
17. Jules Bianchi : Marussia +2 laps
18. Charles Pic : Caterham +3 laps
19. Max Chilton : Marussia +3 laps
Did Not Finish :
20. Esteban Gutiérrez : Sauber +7 laps
21. Nico Hülkenberg : Sauber +25 laps
22.lGiedo van der Garde : Caterham +27 laps

Fastest Lap : Mark Webber - 1:16.182
Pitstop Valtteri Bottas : 2
Bat. 2 Teams : Raikkonen > Sutil
Grid Pos. Felipe Massa : 8th place

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Shaky-Schumi

Just have my new pc in ....so here are finaly the results of the Canadian GP for our game starting with the qualifying :

1. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull - 01:25.425
2. Lewis Hamilton : Mercedes - 01:25.512 31
3. Valtteri Bottas :Williams - 01:25.897 30
4. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes - 01:26.008 32
5. Mark Webber : Red Bull - 01:26.208 30
6. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari - 01:26.504 30
7. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso - 01:26.543 32
8. Adrian Sutil : Force India - 01:27.348 29
9. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus - 01:27.432 32
10. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso - 01:27.946 31
Q2
11. Nico Hülkenberg : Sauber - 01:29.435 22
12. Sergio Perez : McLaren - 01:29.761 23
13. Pastor Maldonado : Williams - 01:29.917 24
14. Jenson Button : McLaren - 01:30.068 22
15. Esteban Gutiérrez : Sauber - 01:30.315 24
16. Felipe Massa : Ferrari - 01:30.354 20
Q1
17. Paul di Resta : Force India - 01:24.908 12
18. Charles Pic : Caterham - 01:25.626 10
19. Romain Grosjean : Lotus - 01:25.716 13
20. Jules Bianchi : Marussia - 01:26.508 12
21. Max Chilton : Marussia - 01:27.062 12
22. Giedo van der Garde : Caterham - 01:27.110 10


Qual.Time : 01:25.425
Pole : Sebastian Vettel
Team Bat. : Vettel > Webber
Grid Pos. Paul di Resta : 17

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Shaky-Schumi

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