Formula 1 General Chat & Discussion

Newsflash :

FIA set to force Red Bull to change engine mapping :
Red Bull Racing is set to be forced to make changes to the engine mapping of its cars for this weekend's Hungarian Grand Prix . The FIA poised to issue a clarification in the next 48 hours on the matter. Following the controversy at Hockenheim on Sunday, when Red Bull Racing was referred to the stewards to explain why its cars were operating with engine maps that had reduced torque in the mid rpm range, motor racing's governing body is now close to acting.
AUTOSPORT Magazine understands that the FIA is planning to issue an official clarification on the matter before action gets underway in Budapest on Friday.
This document is almost certain to make it clear that what Red Bull Racing was doing in Germany will no longer be deemed acceptable.
Sources suggest that the FIA will lay down specific limits on the variations of torque that can be used throughout the rev range - with Red Bull Racing believed to have been using much less than the maximum available torque in the middle rev range.

It is understood that the new limit could allow as little tolerance in torque as two per cent, which is believed to be well inside the variation shown on the engine map used by Red Bull Racing at the German GP. By having a greater variation in its engine mapping, Red Bull Racing was able to both minimise wheelspin and also pump more gases through its engines, therefore helping the aerodynamic benefits that the outfit still gets through the use of exhaust flow at the rear of the car. Although Formula 1 technical delegate Jo Bauer believed that Red Bull Racing's engine maps were in breach of the regulations in Germany, the race stewards did not agree - even though they also did not accept the team's explanations of what was happening.
Red Bull Racing team principal Christian Horner was keen to play down the matter at Hockenheim, suggesting that he never had any doubt his team was in compliance with the regulations.
"Unfortunately, when you have a quick car, it's inevitable that questions are asked," he said. "F1 is a competitive business.
"The rules are pretty black and white and having looked at the evidence, the data, they [the stewards] were fully satisfied. That's the nature of Formula 1 at the end of the day. Of course, you are always going to get other teams that are going to speculate."
Even if the FIA rule clarification does mean Red Bull Racing has to make changes to its engine maps, it should be a fairly simply matter for the team to revert to settings that it used without problem earlier in the campaign.

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Fri 27 July 2012
Practice 1 10:00 - 11:30
Practice 2 14:00 - 15:30
Sat 28 July 2012
Practice 3 11:00 - 12:00
Qualifying 14:00
Sun 29 July 2012
Race 14:00

Standings at the Championship with the rivesed results !!!!
Driver Standings :
01 Fernando Alonso : Ferrari : 154
02 Mark Webber : Red Bull : 120
03 Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull : 110
04 Kimi Raikkonen : Lotus : 98
05 Lewis Hamilton : McLaren : 92
06 Nico Rosberg : Mercedes : 76
07 Jenson Button : McLaren : 68
08 Romain Grosjean : Lotus : 61
09 Sergio Perez : Sauber : 47
10 Kamui Kobayashi : Sauber : 33
11 Pastor Maldonado : Williams : 29
12 Michael Schumacher : Mercedes : 29
13 Paul di Resta : Force India : 27
14 Felipe Massa : Ferrari : 23
15 Nico Hulkenberg Force India : 19
16 Bruno Senna : Williams : 18
17 Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso : 4
18 Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso : 2

Constructor Standings :
01 Red Bull : 230
02 Ferrari : 177
03 McLaren : 160
03 Lotus : 159
05 Mercedes : 105
06 Sauber : 80
07 Williams : 47
08 Force India : 46
09 Toro Rosso : 6


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Shaky-Schumi

Newsflash !!!! :

Vettel penalised for Button pass, drops from second to fifth in the German Grand Prix :
Sebastian Vettel has been handed a penalty for his overtaking move on Jenson Button in the German Grand Prix. The Red Bull driver passed his McLaren rival for second with less than two laps to go by running off track at the exit of the hairpin.
Vettel's move was illegal, according to the stewards, who imposed a post-race drive-through penalty on the German, meaning 20 seconds have been added to his finishing time.
"Car 1 left the track and gained an advantage when he rejoined. Breach of article 20.2 of the FIA Formula 1 sporting regulations," said the stewards.
"Drive-through penalty, imposed after the race in accordance with article 16.3 (20 seconds added to the elapsed race time."
The German drops from second to fifth, promoting Lotus driver Kimi Raikkonen to third

1. Alonso Ferrari
2. Button McLaren-Mercedes
3. Raikkonen Lotus-Renault
4. Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari
5. Vettel Red Bull-Renault
6. Perez Sauber-Ferrari
7. Schumacher Mercedes
8. Webber Red Bull-Renault
9. Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes
10. Rosberg Mercedes

Warning this new result does not count for our game ,because like i sayd some races ago ...the result just after the race ( or qualifying ) counts !!!! So our top 3 remains : 1 Alonso , 2 Vettel , 3 Button !!!

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Shaky-Schumi

Vettel now 5th place due to 20sec. time penalty.

Here is the result of the German GP :

1. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari : 1:31:05.862
2. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing : + 3.732
3. Jenson Button : McLaren : + 6.949
4. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus : + 16.409
5. Kamui Kobayashi : Sauber : + 21.925
6. Sergio Perez : Sauber : + 27.896
7. Michael Schumacher : Mercedes GP : + 28.960
8. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing : + 46.900
9. Nico Hulkenberg : Force India : + 48.100
10. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP : + 48.800
11. Paul di Resta : Force India : + 59.200
12. Felipe Massa :Ferrari : + 1:11.400
13. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso : + 1:16.800
14. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso : + 1:16.900
15. Pastor Maldonado : Williams : + 1 lap
16. Vitaly Petrov : Caterham : + 1 lap
17. Bruno Senna : Williams : + 1 lap
18. Romain Grosjean : Lotus : + 1 lap
19. Heikki Kovalainen : Caterham : + 2 laps
20. Charles Pic : Marussia F1 Team : + 2 laps
21. Pedro de la Rosa : HRT F1 Team : + 3 laps
22. Timo Glock : Marussia F1 Team : + 3 laps
23. Narain Karthikeyan : HRT F1 Team : + 3 laps
Did Not Finish :
24. Lewis Hamilton : McLaren : not yet known

Fastest lap : Michael Schumacher : 1:18.725
Pitstop Paul di Resta : 2
D.S.L : 14

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Shaky-Schumi

An exciting race! Like I wrote off early Buttun! Although Alonso has strengthened its position!
In any other sport is no such a situation! 30% is solved in the offices! 10% on all sorts of chance! And only 60% depends on the skill of the racer!

Alonso really the best ... had great intelligence and ability to be content vettel first and then button ..... button good race, very well Raikkonen in the first part .... I would say not enough Vettel, too nervous when he needed clarity....2nd but not so good,in the pending outcome of the mcLaren complaint ...in my opinion I saw one of the best gp of the year as a strength ... Especially in the first 20 laps it was many spectacular,too....Budapest is for redbull,but after these latest gp probably mclaren are more dangerous for ferrari team....but ferrari has Alonso....Alonso is the difference,actually..

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according to Lauda they forgot to close that gap in the rules.
so they wanted to forbid but didn't write the rules that way.

Red Bulls allowed to start.
Further decisions after the race.

Absolute incredible and shocking news about the RedBulls.