Formula 1 General Chat & Discussion

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29.08.2010, 12:03

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Wel maybe some of you are interested in a short history Blush ( or maybe not Confused ) but because the F1 race is in my land Belgium this weekend i thought why not give an interesting list ,so here is a list of all the winners of the Belgian Grand Prix from 1950 till 2009 . The one with the most 1st places at Spa-Francorchamps is the one and only Michael Schumacher !!!! Smile Thumb up


2009 Kimi Räikkönen – Ferrari
2008 Felipe Massa – Ferrari
2007 Kimi Räikkönen – Ferrari
2005 Kimi Räikkönen – McLaren-Mercedes
2004 Kimi Räikkönen – McLaren-Mercedes
2002 Michael Schumacher – Ferrari
2001 Michael Schumacher – Ferrari
2000 Mika Häkkinen – McLaren-Mercedes
1999 David Coulthard – McLaren-Mercedes
1998 Damon Hill – Jordan-Honda
1997 Michael Schumacher – Ferrari
1996 Michael Schumacher – Ferrari
1995 Michael Schumacher – Benetton-Renault
1994 Damon Hill – Williams-Renault
1993 Damon Hill – Williams-Renault
1992 Michael Schumacher – Benetton-Ford
1991 Ayrton Senna – McLaren-Honda
1990 Ayrton Senna – McLaren-Honda
1989 Ayrton Senna – McLaren-Honda
1988 Ayrton Senna – McLaren-Honda
1987 Alain Prost – McLaren-TAG
1986 Nigel Mansell – Williams-Honda
1985 Ayrton Senna – Lotus-Renault
1983 Alain Prost – Renault
1970 Pedro Rodriguez – BRM
1968 Bruce McLaren – McLaren-Ford
1967 Dan Gurney – Eagle-Weslake
1966 John Surtees – Ferrari
1965 Jim Clark – Lotus-Climax
1964 Jim Clark – Lotus-Climax
1963 Jim Clark – Lotus-Climax
1962 Jim Clark – Lotus-Climax
1961 Phil Hill – Ferrari
1960 Jack Brabham – Cooper-Climax
1958 Tony Brooks - Vanwall
1956 Peter Collins – Ferrari
1955 Juan Manuel Fangio – Mercedes
1954 Juan Manuel Fangio – Maserati
1953 Alberto Ascari – Ferrari
1952 Alberto Ascari – Ferrari
1951 Giuseppe Farina – Alfa Romeo
1950 Juan Manuel Fangio – Alfa Romeo

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

27.08.2010, 13:28

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Here at the racing track was just again some heavy rain during the GP2 training !!!! So this afternoon we will see again a wet track at Spa-Francorchamps !


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Shaky-Schumi

25.08.2010, 17:19

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thanks for that has lewis hamilton as been fined for his burnout during the australian grand prix weekend earlier this year £300 ironic me thinks Big Grin

25.08.2010, 14:03

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This weekend in Spa Rubens Barrichello will celebrate his 300th F1 GP.
Congratulations in advance.
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16.08.2010, 22:17

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Pirelli starts with testing its new F1 tyres at Mugello tomorrow, ahead of its return to Formula One for the 2011 season.

Pirelli will conduct its test programme using a 2009 Toyota TF109 and Mercedes GP reserve driver Nick Heidfeld is expected
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Shaky-Schumi

01.08.2010, 18:26

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New update !!! Renault has bin given a fine of 50.000 dollar because of letting Kubica go to early ,and MercedesGP is also bin given a fine of 50.000 dollar because of a " unsafe release" of Rosberg !!!

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Shaky

01.08.2010, 18:13

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Latest update !!! Schumi is bin given a 10 place grid penalty from the FIA for the next race ,so this means that Schumi will be set 10 places back at the grid in Belgium Sad !

The verdict of the stewards was as follows:

Fact: Illegitimately impeded Car 9 during an overtaking manoeuvre.
Offence: Involved in an incident as defined by Article 16.1 of the 2010 FIA Formula One Regulations
Penalty: Drop of 10 grid positions at the drivers next event.



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Shaky-Schumi

28.07.2010, 23:59

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just to add to shaky's comments, bernie ecclestone is in favour of team orders, so maybe a hint at new rules about allowing team orders in the future.

also yamamoto as replaced chandok again for the hungarian GP.

last but not least monaco has secured a new 10 year deal for there GP.

28.07.2010, 22:45

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just found the latest news of the team order from last weekend !

FIA still considering Ferrari hearing date

The FIA is still not ready to set a date for the hearing about the Ferrari team orders affair.

It has been reported this week that the team's one-two finish at Hockenheim will be considered during the regular World Motor Sport Council meeting in Como, Italy, on September 10. But that date clashes with Friday free practice at Monza.

"The relevant committees are consulting about it [a date for the Ferrari hearing]," a spokesman said.


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Shaky-Schumi

25.07.2010, 21:12

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@ Watcher
One thing is sure, the Ferrari's engineer is been ingenuous; like fracheese has written in his post: 'it's a stupid rule,in turkey red bull asked leading driver to set a less performing "map setting" and he was overtaken by his teammate.'
Maybe this order would have been better.

25.07.2010, 20:08

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No.
My opinion does not exaggerate the facts.
If the incident had not occurred, and that includes Massa's race engineer telling him he was slower than Alonso, it would have been a completely different race from that point on.
Possibilities of other cars catching, backmarker incidents, who knows what ... Reversing the result would not be sufficient punishment but we shall have to wait for the World Motorsport Council to rule.

Let's face it, based on incidents during past years, it McLaren had done it Ferrari would be calling for them to be thrown out of F1.

25.07.2010, 18:55

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Watcher wrote:Should have been excluded from the results in my opinion.

It's better doesn't exagerate. At the maximun, apart the fine, the right punishment it would been to invert the arrive order between first and second position.

We don't forget that this year there are been case more scandalous, one example is been the fact Hamilton-Safety car during Valencia GP with the late penalty for Hamilton after 20 laps when by now his time advantage was however sufficient to maintain the second position, with following false declaration by the pilot.

In conclusion noone is innocent and all are guilty Big Grin, above all in F1 the sport more near to the soccer at level of fair play.
High interesting give also big impropriety.

25.07.2010, 18:30

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This for is for now the latest update !

Ferrari fined, World Motorsport Council to examine Alonso’s pass on Massa
25 July 2010

Ferrari have been fined $100,000 for breaking the Sporting Regulations during the German Grand Prix.

The stewards of the race have also referred the matter to the World Motor Sports Council. The result of the race stands for the time being.

Fernando Alonso passed Felipe Massa to win the German Grand Prix after the team had been heard instructing Massa that he was slower than his team mate.

Massa admitted after the race he let Alonso past but said he did so of his own choosing.

The stewards found Ferrari guilty of breaking article 39.1 of the sporting regulations which forbid team orders that influence the outcome of the race.
More to follow.


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Shaky-Schumi

25.07.2010, 18:23

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"Ferrari have been fined $100,000 for breaching sporting regulations after appearing to implement team orders during the German Prix."

Should have been excluded from the results in my opinion.

25.07.2010, 17:18

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It will be interesting to see whether the FIA has shaken off the Ferrari International Assistance title.
If they do not come down hard on this, we are likely to see many more 'coded' team orders in the future.
And to anybody believing Ferrari's words: The words say one thing, the body language after the event tells a different story.
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