eUrotic Tv Crises

Legxpert wrote:

logic wrote:I think the main camera-priority should be on the model who is fulfilling a wish, whether from a caller or vip-sender. In my opinion it's unnecessary to switch all 2s to a model who make nothing. THAT is frustrating!

Maybe the girl who is doing nothing is having a conversation with a caller for almost an hour. Don't you think also this caller deserves to see her?

Ofcourse, but not while another girl fulfill a wish. In almost one hour is enough time before or after that. And if a fulfilling of a wish takes 1min and another caller is only in this minute on the phone, then I think the camera should show the model who is fulfilling the wish. If I talk with a model about "the weather" it's unnecessary to see her, but if I ask her to make a hot strip I want to see her.

@arimolac, legxpert

I am no viewer who only is watching ETV without spending money or is only sending VIP wishes. If possible, I always call "my" model - Carmen! - if she fulfills my wish (a dance or a strip)- since a long time, and also very often without making a performance for me. I know how disappointing it is for a caller if he calls his model without seeing her because another model makes a show.
But: It is much much much more disappointing if you send a VIP wish for 10 Euro, the model fulfills your wish perfectly and wonderful, you call her during her whole show and longer, you will give her compliments for that performance and her beautiness...
- but the camera shows other models who do nothing!!! And it`s impossible for you to hide your disappointment before "your" model, she begs to the camera "Please show me!" - but the camera has other preferences!!!
Perhaps you didn`t have such experiences?
Of course I know that a model cannot answer to a VIP sms if she has a caller like arimolac wrote - in this case the caller has priority. But if there is a good "connection" between you and "your" model, the model will answer you and fulfill your wish later.

I think the main camera-priority should be on the model who is fulfilling a wish, whether from a caller or vip-sender. In my opinion it's unnecessary to switch all 2s to a model who make nothing. THAT is frustrating!

logic wrote:But ETV has also the opinion to send wishes per VIP-SMS. And for 10 Euro I'm also a paying viewer and want also a little bit of that priority.

Yes, you're right, but a call necessarily has priority over an SMS. I already experienced this myself, when I sent a VIP to Calomira, and it was displayed at an unfortunate time, just while she had a long call, so the message was not displayed properly on the plasma screen, and Calomira replied to it with much delay, and without having the message on the screen. However, this was an exception, and my general personal experience is that VIP SMS are usually handled with sufficient priority.

@arimolac

You are absolutely right!
But ETV has also the opinion to send wishes per VIP-SMS. And for 10 Euro I'm also a paying viewer and want also a little bit of that priority.

From what I'm reading here, I have to conclude that most of the critics haven't been active customers of ETV yet. Otherwise it's hard to understand how come that so many of them overestimate the relevance of the visual and dramaturgical quality of the shows. I repeat myself - the business mission of ETV is not the production of excellent video footage. Just open your eyes: All models have got headsets with long cables. Guess what? It's a CALL CENTER! Yep, that's the ultimate reality of ETV. It differs from other call centers to some extent by the fact that its employees are filmed at work.

Consider this: If you call a model, and request to see her on the screen, you will hear her shout immediately "Camera, show my eyes!" (Or whatever you requested.) And in a couple of seconds, you will get the camera, and "own" it for an appropriate interval of time, no matter what hot performances are running at the same time. That's only fair, because the customer on the line actually contributes to the ecomomical existence of ETV, while the passive lurker doesn't. That's why the dramaturgy and camera work of the shows sometimes appears to be messy, especially at night when many callers are on the lines. You've got much better chances to see uninterrupted performances in the afternoon or evening shows, when the number of callers is low, and the models have got much more time for individual performances. Keep in mind that the paying customer always gets priority and can interrupt the flow of a show. On the other hand, the lurker always will be the last one in the queue.

If you haven't called into the studio so far, try it at least once. You will learn that the view of ETV from the inside is much different from what you see on the screen, and some things that might seem annyoing from the outside will be much easier to understand.

In Italy we cant watch ETV no more

jonas wrote:But the main reason is the CAMERA WORK, which becomes worse and worse.
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If a viewer in 2006 sent a wish for a strip (for 2 Euro!!!), he could watch a show without any interruption, showed by ALL the cameras (including hand cameras!).
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But now? I don`t see any longer shown dance or strip. The nervous camera permanent switches from model to model, there is no longer shown single action.

I totally agree, that's a big problem and very frustrating!

Come on, bellerophon. You can't mean this serious!
ETV is not a charity organization to help poor, little girls with no future and home.
They want and must make money, but maybe that's the key. They just want to make money without paying the models in a fair way.

Cheers.

jonas wrote:If a viewer in 2006 sent a wish for a strip (for 2 Euro!!!), he could watch a show without any interruption, showed by ALL the cameras (including hand cameras!). I remember wonderful strips of Jaya, Tia and Alegra lasting 5-10 minutes - you can watch them here in this forum "videos". [...] But now? I don`t see any longer shown dance or strip. The nervous camera permanent switches from model to model, there is no longer shown single action.

It's true that the camera work sometimes really is "too nervous", and doesn't stay on ANY model for more than 20 seconds. This is what I call the "supermarket surveillance camera" mode of operation, and I've already criticized this in the official forum. I think the main camera focus should always be on the primary performance currently running.

However, there's a problem with an UNINTERRUPTED focus on a single model. Imagine you are calling your favorite model just before another model starts such a 5-10 minute strip. Maybe you want to see "your" model in between while talking? Actually, I do, and I would be highly unpleased to see a strip instead, all the time, which doesn't interest me at all. So showing other models during a primary performance really DOES make sense.

Some viewers write in this topic that the reason for the ETV crises are the models, especially the "old" and soft models.
That`s wrong.
I watch ETV since summer 2006, and there were models I liked, and models I didn`t like. That`s a matter of taste. In the moment I like much more "old" models than new models. And though I like to see naked models, I always liked beautiful soft models like Candy.
What is the reason for the ETV crises?
Of course European censorship is one reason, because the daytime shows cannot be so hot like in 2006/07.
But the main reason is the CAMERA WORK, which becomes worse and worse.
Why that?
If a viewer in 2006 sent a wish for a strip (for 2 Euro!!!), he could watch a show without any interruption, showed by ALL the cameras (including hand cameras!). I remember wonderful strips of Jaya, Tia and Alegra lasting 5-10 minutes - you can watch them here in this forum "videos".
When I in the last years wished a strip or dance of my former favourite model Nikita or my actual favourite model Carmen, I had until Carmen`s break in may 2010 the chance that it was showen at least by one camera and - if I had luck! - only with one or two short interruptions.
I could wish a shower show of Carmen, and it was shown for some minutes - sometimes unfortunately in the last days of Carmen interrupted by a view to the other models.
But now? I don`t see any longer shown dance or strip. The nervous camera permanent switches from model to model, there is no longer shown single action. And the shower shows, in which you had the best chance to watch a continuously shown action, are replaced by the terrible wednesday night show, in which camera permanent changes the model.
Of course I know the reason for that bad camera work: ETV will earn money. And the bosses are afraid, that the viewers of all the models
will always see their model. And they will stop calling if their model isn`t shown for a longer time because there is a longer shown action of another model. And if they have a wish for their model: they must wait if their model is showed again - so their calls last longer, and Mr.Ressel earns more money.
But in these considerations is one mistake: ETV becomes more and more unattractive. So the number of VIP wishes and calls will reduce.
You can see it in every show. If it is no happy hour, there are no VIP sms, and for a long time you can see the models sitting bored in the studio. No call, no money!
I will see what happens after Carmen`s return. If it is not possible to see a longer shown action, I will stop sending SMS and calling ETV.

arimolac wrote:...I would like to see YOU doing this job, ...

Oh sorry, please not.

So I prefer the dressed women at night, of course.

Michael_N wrote:Nobody waits for "porno", but topless girls are walking shamelessly on the many beaches. Naturism style is that when men and women both fully naked. There are a plenty of free sky channels with naked women for 24 hours. So it isn't normal when at night a model can't make a light strip on eurotic TV, when for all night shift she doesn't take off even her dress. You know whom I mean. I don't believe that it's a big problem to find some girls for such a not very hard job for, I think, not bad money. Poor English, a good body, a little sence of humor - and it would be enough and to spare. The regies' work is a special speaking about.

If there are channels showing naked women 24-7, why don't you just watch them, instead of complaining about ETV?

So you think working in a studio for 5 hours or more, replying to the... er... "various" ideas of... er... "highly imaginative" males, posing for them, showing all genital areas, and fulfilling lots of... er... "creative" viewer requests before the camera is like walking topless on a beach? C'mon, dream on! I would like to see YOU doing this job, and would like to know what happens to your sense of humor then......... Believe me, this is HARD EARNED money, and not fun.

Nobody waits for "porno", but topless girls are walking shamelessly on the many beaches. Naturism style is that when men and women both fully naked. There are a plenty of free sky channels with naked women for 24 hours. So it isn't normal when at night a model can't make a light strip on eurotic TV, when for all night shift she doesn't take off even her dress. You know whom I mean. I don't believe that it's a big problem to find some girls for such a not very hard job for, I think, not bad money. Poor English, a good body, a little sence of humor - and it would be enough and to spare. The regies' work is a special speaking about.

bellerophon wrote:I'm not an apologist for ETV - far from it - but three things we all need to consider before bleating on:
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Thanks a million, bellerophon. You put it in a nutshell.
I agree with every word and don't want to add anything.