Safo about etv

Okey, I dont know if someone noticed what happened yesterday. Inthe afternoon show, where safo was performing amongst others, one viewer sent this sms  for her to spread her legs and show evrything...Then she called for one guy from the regie, who to me looks very funny, and then he was sitting there together and telling her what to say to the viewers. She said that she cannot show evryything, because they are ladies and not prostitutes...and then she said also that she feels that that guy insulted her. that was only what the funny guy from regie told her to say to people. After he left she APOLOGIZED to people, saying that normally she likes to expose herself, but that it is not enough time and stuff....First of all if there is anyone to be offended is us. I have never seen anything so bizarre, so ignorant as they do to us. I dont believe anymore that this is only matter of certain law that says them what they are allowed to do. It is the team that sucks. The choice of models, positioning of cameras, really annoying knowledge of German and English language and many other reasons have nothing to do with certain law, that for me is more an excuse than  anything. For example if there is a law, and I believe it is, it is equal for all the girls! Another bad example of bad management: Yesterday in night show-three barbies. Really day after day shows go from bad to worse. Please some answers for the safo comments if someone watched it.

It's not a question to be or not to be a prostitute. 2 years ago it was different. We say many pussies... The problem is the regie.

Oh yeah, all prostitutes are ladies ;) and some ladies prostitutes :)

I don't think, they're making a living out of the VIP- or even show-related SMS. I said it before: If you read the German SMS, it's mainly a platform for invitations to telephon sex activity. They could employ rubber dolls instead of models for all that it's worth. These kinds of SMS will still flow into the account of etv. And they are by far the majority.

If someone's willing to fork out ten Euros for something, that doesn't offer a revenue, it's his problem entirely. Experience should have told him long ago, that he could burn his money and get the same kind of satisfaction.

Also, I think, that etv is monitoring closely from where the money is coming. Apart from possible legal problems, it's probably much cheaper to employ noshow models than daring ones. And none of us knows, what the contracts of the girls are saying. Maybe a hot model isn't better payed per se, but only if she is actually showing skin. So the noshow policy may have a hard financial background and just maybe that's one of the reasons why Jaya left. She would have faced a tremendous pay cut.

My 2 cents on this.

There are several possibilities about that Safo sequence. One is a caller who tunes in after having too much to drink. Sees a girl who he remembers doing warmer things before and sends the message. Or there is the 'joker' with money to burn and just tries something on.

For the guy who gets 2 minutes for his 10 euro, maybe he is happy with that. I'm sure there are a lot of lonely, shy guys out there who prefer their gratification in this way.

As for the switching of cameras, the channel must learn how to respect their paying customers. I have wasted many a word on this very subject. But again, there is a level of inconsistency here as some vision-mixers stay on the subject. Others do not. And I have a theory about that too. Before content was dictated too by the VIP SMSs, each girl could be guaranteed a reasonable amount of viewing time per show. Some girls do not get VIPs EVER or at least the ones they get may not be genuine. So that request is manufactured to give that girl her 'spot' and because the air time is not paid for, the camera will switch accordingly.

After all, a 'model' once wrote in this forum "Everything you see must be paid for". And I will add to that 'every coin has two sides'

@kasnit: right, I just took the average. Sometimes the net time of request is just 1 minute or less. Means 10 (!!!) EUR / minute price. Wow, I don't know ANY webcam or liveshow, and also never read about phonelines priced as high as ETV. What I know is that almost any other service fulfills what it offers for the price customers have to pay. ETV doesn't, they prefer to fool their customers. I call it arrogance, and everyone here could take them down to reality ... by simply boycotting the whole ETV service.

But unfortunately too many viewers already got additcted to the channel for whatever reason, paying unrealistic prices for phone and SMS services, and that's what ETV takes advantage of at present.

@Mauro: I think your examples are too optimistic! Sometimes the time where a 'wish' is shown can be measured in seconds, not minutes. Even worse, it is often seen that wishes -even sent as VIP - never are fulfilled. I admit - sometImes the reason seems to be that there are too much wishes, and a model cannot do a feet show, a strip, a butt show etc. at the same time and continue to talk with a viewer on the phone. But then I cannot understand also these idiots who send off their SMS 3 minutes before the show ends, or complain after 5 minutes 'what's the matter with my wish' or (as seen a few days ago) 'I asked that the girl treads a paper with my name with bare feet, but she was wearing stockings - you damn liars!' (Sorry if a bit off topic).

10 eur is a very high price for 2 minutes...

First of all, I'm sorry for my bad english, probably I will not be able to explain my thoughts well.
I totally agree with what klemi said, and I will add something that happens yesterday night, I don't know if you saw the scene, a guy send an sms for alex asking way she stops her strip, and she said: "For make you go crazy, so you will think of this for all your night" (I don't remember the exact words).
Of course she was kidding, but that's not the way to answer a simple question, later she said that she have an important reason for acting like this.
This things makes me angry, if they continue with this stuff, cheating the viewers and the guys who send vip sms... well maybe it's better if they close the channels.
I feel that I am (quickly) running out of patience with all this craps.

Charity??? It's more like a whishing-well. Throw your money in and most probably nothing will happen.

In our country you get something for 10 EUR. On etv it is like you sent them to some charity organisation. Giving something-expect nothing back.

Well, I have no idea what the models, directors and moderators etc call what they actually offer on ETV...but since they brought it up...a  definition for prostitution can be read below. ETV on the other hand seems to have a different definition of this term.

Prostitution is sexual activity in exchange for remuneration*.

*Remuneration is pay or salary, typically monetary payment for services rendered, as in an employment.

REALLY sad.

Mauro you are absolutely right. You are long time here I see. Tell me please, where should I go for some archives of girls in the first year of eurotic show?

Very sad.

The worst thing about ETV is that 95% of the wishes fulfilled are always interrupted by switching the camera every few seconds. So viewers pay about 10,- EUR for a VIP, the request (if fulfilled at all) lasts about 5 minutes, and 3 minutes you can see the camera focusing models not involved in the request. Makes 2 minutes net if you are lucky. 10 EUR is a high price for 2 minutes, isn't it?