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It appears certain members here encouraged by the forum owners who may have vested interests in eUrotic.TV otherwise I can't explain and understand the personal attack some members are experiencing if they criticize eUrotic.TV shows/Staff/Directors etc.
This activity in not unusual in today's web environment it is a well known fact that companies/organizations/political parties etc are paying professional talk-backers to respond to any criticism done on their product/paper/political idea and so own. Usually talk-backers normally respond with ideas of so called "their own" in order to explain why the product/idea is good with positive examples (obviously received from the company financing them). Unfortunately in this forum they talk-backers took this to a complete extreme - normally they don't contribute any ideas or insight , are usually quoting the other members post and adding some sarcastic remark or in worse cases are using an insulting language towards that person. Some of the members here have poor English and sometime I am sure they can't even understand the sophisticated comment this "scholar" made. After years being a member in this forum I can tell there several member types 95% are silent members i.e they just read it (not sure) or usually go directly to the video section to download videos. the other 5% are also divided into those who post very short posts like "I love you" "i want to see pu**y" 'Good/Bad show" "ugly model" "fu**ing director" and then you have members which actually are trying to write some ideas yes criticize when needed (apparently since mid April it has increased I wonder why ?) and in some cases are contributing new ideas that eUrotic.TV can adopt. (by criticizing I mean no personal attack on a model looks) To my point of view this is the forum essence , this what keeps the forum alive . If the forum is biased in any way towards the channel and doesn't wish that bad words/criticism will be posted I think it will be only fair to post such a disclaimer in home web page so everybody will know because at the moment these personal attacks are just like fuel to fire . The talk-backers can instead of attacking members give their insight why things are done this way and not the other way around and not just respond "If you don't like it change the channel " or "This is a free to air channel etc" or talk in riddles . As long as this channel is in the air for free it is subject to criticism like any other channel regardless to how esoteric it is . Just a reminder we have just celebrated 20 years to demise of the iron curtain where news papers used to be writing what the party wanted to hear otherwise you know what... So if this is the case just let us know ... |
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There could be a simple solution. Install a "room" where complaints about complaints can be posted and remove them from the forum complaints about the show and put them there. Clear that would need somebody who supervises the forum and does the poststransfer. But that would lead to an undisturbed counterattackfree forum for complaints about the show. So everybody can go where he wants and the keeping on topic would be guaranteed. Maybe the Molvanians won't want that because it could become much too condensed hard critizism.
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Mr_Niceguy wrote:vappiano68 wrote:I find very strange that here, now and then, a new member appears and, in his first or second posts, he shows the authority to tell me (for example) when to speak or when to shut up ... I will never have any problems in accepting comments like this  But you know I don't refer to this. |
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vappiano68 wrote:I find very strange that here, now and then, a new member appears and, in his first or second posts, he shows the authority to tell me (for example) when to speak or when to shut up ... Well you do talk a lot Vappiano.
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the-muppet wrote:vappiano68 wrote:I don't find a single one of the new members in the italian forum writing his first post with such words Yes, many Italians, but english language is accepted and there are also members from other countries,...the same countries where some kinds of 'strange behaviours' come from in this forum... I don't think Italians are better than others ( but no need to speak about "family", you can find "families" in every country...), and I give you my assurance: we have many different tastes but no single poster uses such offensive style, most of all in his first posts...and always defending the TV... So the reason must be another one... As regard me: I would never behave in such ways even if you speak badly about my girlfriend (if I like her I don't care about others' opinions) Don't get me wrong: if you know me you can see that I have no problems in having a debate with someone else, and playing the role of victim is not my favourite game (if the rules are the same for every player). I just point out at some strange 'members', very strange indeed ... |
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Robert
I give you another points to think about, because I can make a direct comparison: I don't find a single one of the new members in the italian forum writing his first post with such words: <<< stop your crap posts >>> or <<< you write always the same boring crap >>> or <<< stick it in your ass...>>> or similar, most of all referring to some members who are here since 3/4 years. (and maybe, in 3/4 years, these members offered this forum many stupid posts, but also many interesting discussions and videos...) I find very strange that here, now and then, a new member appears and, in his first or second posts, he shows the authority to tell me (for example) when to speak or when to shut up ... |
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Robert, I thought shall I respond or not ... You started your post with the wrong approach and giving the right example what people mean by saying "Teachers". You told me I am wrong here and probably on other occasions in the past and I say this is not something that you can say right or wrong. I have my idea and you have yours we are both being subjective ! On the other hand for example I will say 1+1=3 you can say I am wrong. Unless you work in ETV or you have specific information that was divulged by someone working in ETV that contradicts what he or she is saying then maybe you can say I am wrong but as this will bring us into a different debate it will be wise to the forum members to leave the judgment to other readers and not to comment to other members post with delicate words like ""you are wrong" or with more harsher ones like "crap" . Everyone should post his/hers idea without overruling the other . You think the show is great say it praise it but leave the other the possibility to say its bad. Obviously the members should stick to civilized language without curses and insults.
And regarding the shows seeing your posts in the past I have noticed you like the soft model good for you but others prefer the hot models you are so lucky as you can enjoy ETV 20 hours a day , I and many other members on the other hand who only have one possibility the night show which is the max 4 hours would like to see a lot of nudity and explicit shows of models what you apparently don't like and its fine with me. But you see 90% of the the comments and argues are driven from these 4 hours. Why don't you or others who like the soft girls praise for pages the day shows upload numerous videos just to give a more balanced flavor to this forum ? And to summarize I have no problem to say I like/love ETV but me an maybe others on the other hand have no problems to shout laud the "king is naked" when things are changing to our subjective idea. |
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I can tell you my experience:
I'm member also of the italian ETV forum which was born at the end of 2009. I give you some numbers: Today, 17:06 : italian ETV forum: 749 members 66 posts (video section excluded) Not a single post containing attacks or arguements among members. Liveshow forum: 27744 members 40 posts (insted of 66 !) (video section excluded) So, in the italian forum we are few members but the activity is very good (many posts). Many different tastes and opinions, but never attacks. I wonder: why ? Maybe Yasmine is not so wrong about some 'talk-backers' here (and their number, growing day after day...) ...it's not so difficult to find out some of them... I just want to point out at MR. Pink's innocence. |
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I do not want to get at you Yasmine1 because you write considered pieces so I hope you consider this a contribution rather than an attack.The comments are aimed more at others. You are however on many occasions wrong and I am willing to bet you are wrong again on your first point.
I am bound to be accused of being a teacher whatever the f...k that means but have you read some of the criticism? It is very very repetitive, often sexist and sometimes bordering on racist. It also quite often attacks the models. And you wonder why some other contributors respond (particularly when the attacks are directed at a favourite model) ? It reminds me of football fans who scream abuse all match and then run to the police when a footballer actually shouts back.And writing love letters to models or lamenting their disappearance is just as dull BTW. And it works both ways you know. I would post a lot more but I know the ideas I have would be attacked from a lot of posters. For example I find the obsession with fannys, pussys, muschis whatever you want to call them in recent shows really boring. I find the lowering of knickers and the pointing out of the vagina the opposite of sexy but that seems to be what has become the definition of a hot show these days. Fair enough because I can also enjoy Mashiara, Lia, Loreta, Evah, Brona etc. That is what makes a balanced show. But if I dared to say this I am accused of being an apologist for ETV. That is the difference. There are lots of things wrong with ETV and I am sure they are aware of most of them as much as we are (and have sorted lots of them) However if anyone dares to suggest that there might be a reason why everything is not perfect then they are branded employees of ETV or worse "teachers". This is not about freedom of speech. It is about keeping a message board balanced, interesting and appealling to a wide audience (after all this board needs paid for too I would imagine). Mr Pink does a brilliant job at keeping the whole thing under control under difficult circumstances. I would have kicked most of you out long ago. So you are very lucky to have such a benevolent dictator. I will finish with a radical and dangerous statement: I LIKE ETV!! BTW I love you all! 
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