Last night's show

love.giant, very good insight, one of the best posts lately.

I would just add one more very annoying thing about your hated holiday exclusives:

The model shortage during holidays meant they worked longer shifts than usual. But the access to exclusives remained the same. This meant, for example today, that if you accessed the show in the morning to see Bunny you could watch her exclusives only until 12, but her shift finished at 2pm. If you wanted to watch the rest of her exclusives until 2pm you had to pay for the access again and for 3 hours (from 2pm until 5pm) watch exclusives of models you may not be interested in. The same with the afternoon show and the evening's Fool Moon Party (pun intended). Tonight's night show is the only one with the same models throughout. Also, this switch of models mid show was breaking the dynamics and atmosphere of the shows, at least for me.

First of all: Happy new year everyone. I wish each and everyone of u and your families a succesfull, healthy and fun new year.

With that being said I want to adress something that irritated me, it's obviously concerning ETV's new years show.
Before that though, I'd like to stress that I somehow stopped watching ETV and that's mostly due to the fact that my overall favorite model, Penelope, has left ETV, apparently for good this time. And well, because of the stupid exclusives and ETV insulting their fanbase, but that goes without saying. So before the holidays I tuned into ETV maybe 2-3 times for not more than 30 minutes in a week. And I gotta say that I didn't get the feeling that I was missing something. The money that I spent on ETV went into my Steam account instead, and I got way, WAY more out of the games I purchased than I got out of spending it on ETV before, but that's another story.

Since it's the holidays and I didn't have any particular plans this year (wanted to keep it a bit low this year) I checked out ETV on a more regular basis. And normally the christmas eve and new year shows are worth watching, even if the shows are basically the same, the performances and the overall feel of the show is pretty special.
So i checked back on those 2 recordings and I actually couldn't believe it. I have been following this forum, to see what all of you guys think about the current show, but after watching the mentioned shows the reality is even more grim than I thought.
While even the 2014 christmas and new year shows where pretty fun to watch, they actually had the audacity to run exclusive shows? Excuse my language here but: WHAT THE ACTUAL F***!?

And while I am 100% against those shitty exclusive shows, because they kill everything even remotely close to appealing and erotic in the night shows, I can sorta understand why ETV are still doing them. They have this business model, they decided to go on with it... and they can't accept failures. I got it.
BUT at least they could cancel them during the christmas and new years eve. I mean, it's a special occasion. Christmas and new year are only once a year, so why doesn't ETV think "OK. It's a special occasion, there won't be any exclusives tonight, we are going to give our loyal fanbase something back tonight. No bs." But apparently that would make too much sense.

Another thing that was driving me insane was during the christmas show. I heard from various members that there are a lot of fake messages and wishes. So during the christmas show, while they decided to go on with the exclusives, apparently there where no wishes going in, so they where showing 3-4 messages in a row from a user named "wk" who kept on requesting shows in exclusive and was rambling on how the show was hot and enjoyable to watch when, at least to me, it wasn't at all. Thank god for the fast forward button, btw.
I don't know if this "wk" is a plant or not, but it's hard to believe that a user is willing to pay, I guess it's roughly 20 bucks just to say "The show is hot." There have been messages like this before, sure, but not 2-3 times in a row with no wish or anything.

Last but not least, the only glimpse of eroticness I saw when I was rewatching the new year show was 1 fullstrip from Roshana. Let that sink in for a second:
1 FULLSTRIP from Roshana. 1?!

Everything else was reserved for exclusive. And again, I hate the exclusives, but I understand that ETV decides to run with them, but PLEASE for the love of everything: At least for the christmas and new years show: Leave them out. It felt like a regular show... no not even that, it was even more boring than a regular show. If the only highlight in a freaking 4-5 hour long show was 1 Fullstrip that lasted for about 5-10 minutes then that's freaking pathetic.

So if the new year show was any indication of how ETV 2016 is gonna be... well than ETV is probably gonna be replaced by the test card soon. Then there will only be the internet shows. And since you can easily find more lewd, explicit and erotic content than the stuff they produce, their internet page will be gone and then that's that. My money will still go to Steam and I highly doubt that I will regularly check ETV after the holidays are over. I might turn in here and there if Jasmine, Roshana or Nancy (cool to see her back, btw) are on, but as I said, I won't bother too much with ETV. I just read the forums, download the highlights from the great users here (not surprising that there aren't many uploads as of late, btw) and I get the hang of what's happening.

But we'll see.

So again, happy 2016 everyone and sorry for rambling on so much =)

Edit: I forgot to mention, I didn't pay close attention to that, but as far as I recall, ETV didn't even give out any "Happy Hours." And even if they did, I feel that they should keep the "Happy Hour" up for 1 hour during the christmas and new year show. If they also get rid of the exclusives during those 2 shows, I'm pretty sure that a lot of people would send in some wishes.

I've been both away and ill over the last week. I got back yesterday just in time to watch what is normally one of my favourite shows: Make Room For The Newbies. Imagine my surprise to see that both Effy and Isadora were on! My fault for not keeping up with developments I know. I don't really understand how either can be called a 'newbie'. At a stretch I suppose that Isadora could be called a novice in night shows. That doesn't apply in any way to Effy.

I bought the show anyway. It seemed to me that Effy and Isadora added about what would be expected. Not very much of any worth in my view, but I suppose that fans of either of them might feel it wasn't bad.

My major point though is that it seemed to me that the show continued the recent trend, as far as I can tell, of softening the shows. I like Tallona and Yoko a lot and Zoe quite a lot, so I wouldn't call the show utterly worthless. All three seemed to me to do the best that they were allowed to do. There wasn't anything though that made me doubt that ETV are on a course of making their shows softer and softer.

My personal preferences are probably on the 'softer' end of the scale of what is wanted by viewers. Even for me though ETV have taken their shows to too soft a level. More to the point I find much of what they are currently doing simply to be slow and boring. The emphasis there being on 'slow'. These are obviously just personal views and I imagine that there are a wide range of opinions on the matter. For me though the show, despite the efforts of Yoko, Tallona and Zoe wasn't really worth the effort of buying and watching. I believe it was directed by Angelina and, frankly, I thought it was mostly slow, pointless and dull. All of the models involved have, it seems to me, made superior shows in the not so distant past. That makes me think that the problem (as I see it) is with the management of ETV rather than the models (though Effy in particular seems to sneer at those requesting full nudity).

All in all, on a personal level, this was a show that did nothing to suggest to me that I am wrong in my decision to use up the credits that I have already bought and then not buy any more

On a side note; I don't have enough hollow, cynical laughter in my soul to adequately express my views on Effy saying that she and Isadora were the 'Jedi' to the 'Padawan' Tallona, Yoko and Zoe.

best-reporting wrote:There is one thing in the show last night that does not make a good show. I am talking about the 'very' bright lighting on the platform. When Lauren does a sexy strip here the lighting is so bright it is so hard to see her for the screen has turned white. Look in the images in Lauren's video thread and you will see how this is. The more crazy thing is Lauren has said she loves the platform because the light is so good She must watch the video to see how it looks.

Another example of ETV-censorship.

The show of the Star: Scarlet, Mashiara, Kristine, Clodia, Tia: every Tuesday fron 22.00CET on. Just few years ago, same room.
Now, on tuesday, the propose "the Fusion"..I think the only fusion here concerns the neurons inside the brain of the genius who have given birth to this show, neurons that have merged into a large static piece that nothing can create more

From hot Tuesday to odd Tuesday
OK, Yesterday it seems at least in the after hour the girls were allowed to do something (or Tia and Nancy simply did ), but the night show itself you could completely forget.

Regards
Joker

There is one thing in the show last night that does not make a good show. I am talking about the 'very' bright lighting on the platform. When Lauren does a sexy strip here the lighting is so bright it is so hard to see her for the screen has turned white. Look in the images in Lauren's video thread and you will see how this is. The more crazy thing is Lauren has said she loves the platform because the light is so good She must watch the video to see how it looks.

luca75xxx wrote:we was waiting a Christmas present?????

NO CHANCE

Why Destiny in night show. People ask nude....answer "ofcourse"...people ask again......answer "of course"....She always say yes, thx, i will do now....and do nothing....All night in shorts??? is better watch day show...

Destiny is a mystery. she doesn't do nude usually, and indeed last night, in reply to a request, Jasmine actual said this. BUT, she has done once in the past, in the dark room in an exclusive and she was hot, and then last Sunday in her 4hr show, she was very hot and full nude, but then the last two nights, its back to topless and implied nude. I cant figure it out at all. She's really hot but then so frustrating over her levels. Of course, its her choice what she does, and we should all respect that (assuming that she's dong her levels and isn't being held back by the ETV director on the night).
I also believe that if she is asked for a nude, she should say that she doesn't do it fully, if she's not going to. But that maybe upto ETV to discuss with her. Again,its her choice what she does, I would just like to know before requesting anything. My assumption now is that she only does implied nude at the most.

ETV should have a page of girls profiles, and in the girls profile, it should state her levels for FTA, for exclusives, and for specials, that way, everyone would know instead of having to ask due to ETV's inconsistency issues with the girls/shows/levels

I think ETV needs to also redefine their shows a bit, instead of seeing them as an art experience, why not just see them as an erotic performance, and then they can state the levels that are allowed, have done with it, Then together with the profiles page, we would all know what to expect, and also ETV would know so they could then be consistent instead of the varying levels between shows.

and last thought : 'All night in shorts' yes, but with that arse, she does look pretty damn hot
but that's just my thoughts

Joker1305 wrote:

askar wrote:I saw yesterday a small part of the show my conclusion it will only get worse

You mean the show was that good ?
The girls did a great job, but the video mix was pretty clumsy and destroyed a lot.
Anyway, for me it was one of the best shows in the past time

Regards
Joker

No the show was terrible and it only gets worse

askar

askar wrote:I saw yesterday a small part of the show my conclusion it will only get worse

You mean the show was that good ?
The girls did a great job, but the video mix was pretty clumsy and destroyed a lot.
Anyway, for me it was one of the best shows in the past time

Regards
Joker

tux.friend wrote:Last night I saw only the first half, the rest is on hdd. I ask me more times, what did the cameraman and the director do. They destroys the show! Its totaly bad sometimes they move or switch very fast from one girl to another, specialy if there was an for the viewers interesting view/part. Yesterday the camera still stays on the model, if she does nothing and looked boring, than her face was seconds over seconds with zoom on the screen. This was total unerotic.
Over the time, last year or last half year, the girls had more and more boring times within the shows. Absolut bad for me the crew gave no hint to the girl that she would be filmed and so there was a long time a tired and boring face on the screen. The opposite from sexy and erotic.

Yesterday I read some sportnews, on one site there was a link to a picture gallery with cheerleaders . No girl was nude, but the most of them had more erotic than the etv shows today.

Okay you're right about the camera and the director, but we must not forget that there are also some models who can do something about their image when all the models genuine eurotic than there are less moments of boredom.
On this moment there are a view girls who standing there and itt looks like..... ok itts my job I can earn my money but I dont like what I am doing, and maybe there are some girls who not good enough for this work.

Last night I saw only the first half, the rest is on hdd. I ask me more times, what did the cameraman and the director do. They destroys the show! Its totaly bad sometimes they move or switch very fast from one girl to another, specialy if there was an for the viewers interesting view/part. Yesterday the camera still stays on the model, if she does nothing and looked boring, than her face was seconds over seconds with zoom on the screen. This was total unerotic.
Over the time, last year or last half year, the girls had more and more boring times within the shows. Absolut bad for me the crew gave no hint to the girl that she would be filmed and so there was a long time a tired and boring face on the screen. The opposite from sexy and erotic.

Yesterday I read some sportnews, on one site there was a link to a picture gallery with cheerleaders . No girl was nude, but the most of them had more erotic than the etv shows today.

I saw yesterday a small part of the show my conclusion it will only get worse

we was waiting a Christmas present?????

NO CHANCE

Why Destiny in night show. People ask nude....answer "ofcourse"...people ask again......answer "of course"....She always say yes, thx, i will do now....and do nothing....All night in shorts??? is better watch day show...

GeorgeSK wrote:

kennyboy2012 wrote:

GeorgeSK wrote:The shower at the end of the night's energy mix must be the new record - preceded with 2 ads for the winter promotion in a row!!!

Poor stefan got about a minute or less of a shower show for his 4 credits.

Shower show was five and a half minutes. They could have made it a bit longer for him. The exclusives vary in length and sometimes are really short. I suspect they are short when its a really simple one and they think its done.

Are we talking about the same shower? I meant not the exclusive with Kristina at around 3:45, that was alright, I meant the other one with Jasmine and another girl, on TV, it started less than 2 minutes before 4am preceded with the same winter promotion ad twice in a row, further cutting from the time of the shower on TV.

Jasmine just started to wet the other girl with the shower head when the TV jingle played at 4am closing the show. Pity I didn't record it. It seemed they did it just to justify their taking of the credits off the viewer who asked for it well in advance, I think more than an hour.

Probably that is why the exclusive shower with Kristine was relatively short. The exclusive request came after the TV request and had higher priority but they wanted to squeeze both in. They should have stretched the show by 3-4 minutes past 4am as they sometimes do. It was unfair to the viewer.

I also watched that "shower show"
There were some advertisements, then they broadcasted Jasmine and Saiqa only for a few seconds in the shower and afterwards advertisements again....
Maybe the girls were in the shower longer than we saw and the girls even didn't know that they were not showed on tv...