Exclusive/ Premium stream - Discussion within the Forum Rules ;)

OK, I'll again, this thread is for discussions about the shows on the premium stream page, not the TV Live page.

askar wrote:I dont know what show you looking
For you everything is great exept the cameraman come on man open your eyes and stop saying that everything is allright
Sometimes whwen I read your post i got the feeling you,re one off the shareholders from etv.
And i know everyone have the right off his own opinion but what you,re writing sometimes you must be blind.
Askar

I am watching the exclusives.
are you?

askar wrote:

kennyboy2012 wrote:And yet another show with exclusives with some great revealing moves and poses,

ruined by the A-hole controlling the camera feed!

are these people on day release from Ofcom?

the girls do a great job, only for the camera to pan away quickly, from anything remotely intimate or slightly risky.

the lighting is great, the video quality is mainly great,

its all great, except the tame censoring camera work.

yet again ETV shoots itself on the foot!

I dont know what show you looking
For you everything is great exept the cameraman come on man open your eyes and stop saying that everything is allright
Sometimes whwen I read your post i got the feeling you,re one off the shareholders from etv.
And i know everyone have the right off his own opinion but what you,re writing sometimes you must be blind.
Askar

And yet another show with exclusives with some great revealing moves and poses,

ruined by the A-hole controlling the camera feed!

are these people on day release from Ofcom?

the girls do a great job, only for the camera to pan away quickly, from anything remotely intimate or slightly risky.

the lighting is great, the video quality is mainly great,

its all great, except the tame censoring camera work.

yet again ETV shoots itself on the foot!

Wilsonsand wrote:"Reading the wall i find kenny "impressed" because the Splirt cam show of 11/02 and two other messages full of compliments. I can assure to all of you there is nothing in that show that you could not see in a normal night show in the last year, but got used to such low standards, when you see something a bit better, you find it spectacular. I can say it was a good show, there was a good lighting, a good camera work, decent zooms . The big compliments looks to me a bit excessive and in any way i would define the show as "excelent", but i perfectly understand this kind of "euphoria" when there is a bit of light in a dark room."

I agree with Wilsonsands assessment of the Exclusive shows, there have been two or three acceptable web shows out of those I have seen since mid November, the rest have been poor. The shows which offered hope of something better were isolated.

The only clarification I wish to make as the poster of one of the "two other messages" on the Wall for the 11/02 show, is that if you post anything to the Wall for Moderation that has any hint of negativity it gets rejected, also they have a tenancy to edit Wall posts too, to make them more positive, and often introducing grammar mistakes and incoherent sentences (as was done with my Wall post). I did it to encourage ETV because I had sent numerous non public messages to them complaining, and I felt a little appreciation would go some way to increasing the frequency and quality of future exclusive shows. Only time will tell.

As the Wall is a marketing tool for ETV, the same day I also posted in this forum that the show on the 11/02 was an "improvement compared to other recent exclusive shows. I am not saying it was perfect, or equal to shows of the days gone by" and "They do need to improve the picture quality, the stream suffered from pixilation at times". This more accurately describes the show on 11/02 and aligns with Wilsonsands assessment.

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There is much improvement needed with the Exclusive shows in my opinion, and if they do not improve before my credits need topping up, I will not be buying more until I read here, that they have made significant and consistent improvements.

Hope this clarifies my posts and that the "truth is out there", but not necessarily on the Wall!

Wilsonsand

I agree with some of what you say, but I would add in:


Wednesday's show, Mikeila, the open leg views, did not all suddenly love camera to the distance angle like normal. The angle was held, so it was a new higher level of view from Mikeila, and it wasn't hidden as soon as it happened, like they normally do. She did say that something had recently happened in relation to what she was about to do, but she didn’t say what so I wonder if she's had a new agreement for a slightly higher level. From what I saw last night, she is certainly revealing more that the sort of fixed plan frontal nude of before.

Weekday day shows
They may offer something else, or update the schedule again, to cover the day shows, but I expect it to be pre-recorded materials, it just seems that weekday day shows are a loss maker and there’s no point in continuing them. Better to save the money on production costs, use the time to check and fix system issues, especially the video quality, and maybe have a few meetings, get reorganised, with fewer directors that all now sit down and talk together and agree standards and levels, and then maybe we'll get a consistent service

Thematic shows,
I would say, bin what they have and come up with some new ideas. Close encounters is no good, full moon is too poorly lit. Start over with some new ideas.

Exclusive shows in the main studio
These 'shared studio shows' need to end, I do not rate them at all. I tried them for a while, gave the, ago, and we've had 'IMHO' a few good ones with better levels, decent video quality and actually enjoyable to watch, but the vast majority are not up to standard.
For me, an exclusive is a separate show for that short duration. It’s not a case of just doing something that's nude and hiding it through a flimsy silly curtain, that really does look so cheap and tacky. They need to be a separate small event. They need to do these in a separate studio. The time taken for the girls to go between these studios is bizarre, it seems to take 10mins at least, I could walk over half a mile in that time. Yes, they may b preparing, getting changed etc. that's OK, but it does take longer than it used to take. And that's another point, if they are spending that time getting ready, changing etc. then by using shared studio, they are not doing all of this prep. So clearly the exclusives aren't proper exclusives with the same level of preparation.
The only show that partially works, in some way, is the fusion show. This works because the girls take on turns to do an exclusive style show, and it’s one after another after another, so like a conveyor belt, so we get plenty, but again, it’s not the same.

I certainly agree about the consistency issue. One good show is usually followed by a series of poor shows, and that's what kills it for me. As a subscriber, I will watch the show to start with, see how it goes and if it’s no good, I'll bail out. but when the subscriptions end, I won’t be paying for all the shows, to see what they are like, I will pay for the ones I think will be good, and the rest I won’t waste money on. The problem with this, is that with all the inconsistencies, I'll probably miss some good shows, and still see too many crap shows

The members exclusive evening, started off quite entertaining as it was quite funny, but it’s rapidly become just 3 girls doing the same normal levels, but with free messages. I was hoping it might be allowed to be a bit more, show a bit more, and a first it did, especially with Saiqa, but now it’s been tamed right down, I don't bother with it.

Oh well, we'll see what happens this coming week. One hope is that without day shows, they can concentrate on improving the night shows, get the video quality better, and improve overall, but we will see.

andreaparma wrote:JBGOOD tell us about your WEB HAPPINESS.....what makes you so happy?

...sorry for the late reply

Well Andrea clearly you didn't get the meaning of my message. Becouse after all these years it must be clear that I'm not at all a fan of the new "porno-trend" Ivo is following at ETV... I know nothing and I keep myself far away from the premium zone

My just for this new thread where I hope all the spams about premiums and bullshits on their activities in exclusives will definitivelly be collected , leaving the old traditional threads on TV shows free from these polluting discussions.
And be sure this my last post in this thread

But tell me something...why are you reading here? Do you still have the hope to buy their shows when you stop your boycot?

Happy Valentine to everibody

Wow Skyler under the shower in exclusive totally nude - what a progress so soon.

My point of view about last days exclusives, especially after reading the messages on the wall. Let´s see the different shows ETV actually offers:

- the morning & afternoon shows (it seems they are cancelled next week)
- "thematic" shows: Close Encounters, Full moon and Models Showdown
- the exclusives which are made in the main studio (splitcam, fusion show,Members Exclusive Evening)
- the ones made in the second black studio (make room for newbies, seduction club, evening shows)

The morning and afternoon shows have been fallen in the softest, boring and repetitive shows of ETV. After leaving the "4 hours" concept, they started with boring and repetitive topless with soft-yellowed low lighting and topless shows. Soft models like Isadora or Kelly looks really comfortable in it, in some cases lowering her levels (Isadora) even to a more soft positions. It seems lately there was very few messages and calls, and maybe that (also with the lack of models) is the reason why they disappear from the schedule next week. Just when they improved the lighting of the shows significantly. Too late.

The thematic shows are not good either for me. The close encounters it´s just meeting models in a very tiny room, fulll of cushions and pink curtains that are everywhere. The shows are decently lighted (something very rare in ETV nowadays), and there are zooms (rare too) because there is a camera man there, but his work it´s clearly not on the purpose of offering exciting views at all. The show could be great, but in my eyes is not because the shows are not bolder and exciting enough. The full moon shows are not a disaster as they were some time ago: extremely dark, extremely soft and extremely boring. They have tried different things, even chroma, and it seems now theres is a better lighting, but the shows are soft and mostly boring. The models showdown shows started well, but week after week they have been going to worse, more soft and more dark, with the same defects all the shows made in the black studio have (as these shows are not made in a different place than the black room anymore). This kind of show have moved from sometimes even brillant show to a normal dark kind of shows, ruined.by darkness, distant cams and so on.

The exclusives shows made in the main studio are like normal night shows performances, some of them better than others, but nothing excelent. Reading the wall i find kenny "impressed" because the Splirt cam show of 11/02 and two other messages full of compliments. I can assure to all of you there is nothing in that show that you could not see in a normal night show in the last year, but got used to such low standards, when you see something a bit better, you find it spectacular. I can say it was a good show, there was a good lighting, a good camera work, decent zooms . The big compliments looks to me a bit excessive and in any way i would define the show as "excelent", but i perfectly understand this kind of "euphoria" when there is a bit of light in a dark room. The problem is they do one of this every 10 of mediocre ones.After 9 mediocre shows you find something like this and you think this is a change for better, but it´s not, it´s just the exception they make from time to time to keep the interest alive while making another 9 mediocre shows again. The day after, friday night, they lowered all in another boring dark show. Anyway, i keep saying the split cam shows are actually the best shows you can see on ETV, but they are far away of the best show you could see on ETV 3 months ago, and miles away that you could see in the past.

There is another show which is placed in the main studio, the "Members Exclusive Evening" on wednesday, 2 hours long, 3 models, with the same spirit of the old and missed "free for wish show!, but far away of it. Less funny, less provocative, less exciting, not so good lighted. Actually there is no show at old "free for wish show" level.

Last, the shows made in the black studio are the ones i analized [Versteckter Link - Registrierung notwendig]. Briefly: shows made with poor light, 3 cam views:

[Versteckter Link - Registrierung notwendig] [Versteckter Link - Registrierung notwendig] [Versteckter Link - Registrierung notwendig]

rarely and not close zooms enough, too much distance, poor lighting, too many side views (instead of frontals) and usual censorship, thus the shows are inevitably poor. The "make room for the newbies" show is maybe the worst show of the week, Anyway our friend Kenny wrote in the wall "The Newbies show on Wednesday was quite good overall, the video quality was great but the highlight for me was Mikeila and her chair strip, it was wonderful" In my opinion, a show made with the conditions and views i said before, can´t be "quite good",and in fact there was the same mistakes, and i would add one more: when something explicit, something really hot, or any exciting view can be seen they inmediately change from camera 3 ( in the examples) to camera 2 or 1. And this is exactly what it happened in the more "hot" show of the night, the acclaimed show of Mikeila (the best performance at all), Mostly the show was shown on cam 2 and 3, but when pussy can be seen on frontal shots, they never used cam 3 and changed to 2 and 1. The seduction club shows on friday are really poor, they don´t deserve a different analysis.

I am glad Kenny can enjoy the shows too much, but in my humble opinion the standards are too low, only 1 of the 4 kind of shows described above worth it, and only sometimes. I really hope there is a general improvement, night shows come back and finally they understand they can be more succesful if they work in simple improvements like good lighting, better camera work, closer shots, provocative/naughty angles, and more fun and freedom for the girls.

To create a new thread is the right decision.

... and may be PLEASE accepted by the censorers of "liveshow-tv.com", because at now in the most terrible way Eurotic-TV is mixed by internet-croak here and internet-croak there by their management.

So, only if this bad tasting mixture is ended - a clear separation between E-TV and their internet-side is done finally - writing here about the internet-shows of the firm which created E-TV originally, should be ended.

Because after that the internet-shows - also as TV-shows behind if curtains or walls or shown on note-book-screens and so on - would not be a subject at liveshow-tv-discussions any longer.

w. b.w

Slowfox wrote:

kennyboy2012 wrote:well the showdown started off well, with Izzy and Trinity pretty hot, but the second and third parts weren't as good, and although they were clearly fully nude, it stopped at that level, there were no accidental slips, etc.
I didn't watch Linda and Zoe, so I cant comment fairly.
Maybe the nightshow will be good
Just hope next weeks showdown is allowed to be a hot one, with Angelina getting her hands on Destiny, lucky devil

Sorry, but Angelina is an absolute no go for me and thus a show for the bin right from the start. I have nothing against the remaining girls, but this octopus like 'thing' using/abusing the girls for her private pleasures is far beyond my taste.

I don't feel as strongly as you do, but I know what you mean.

kennyboy2012 wrote:well the showdown started off well, with Izzy and Trinity pretty hot, but the second and third parts weren't as good, and although they were clearly fully nude, it stopped at that level, there were no accidental slips, etc.
I didn't watch Linda and Zoe, so I cant comment fairly.
Maybe the nightshow will be good
Just hope next weeks showdown is allowed to be a hot one, with Angelina getting her hands on Destiny, lucky devil

Sorry, but Angelina is an absolute no go for me and thus a show for the bin right from the start. I have nothing against the remaining girls, but this octopus like 'thing' using/abusing the girls for her private pleasures is far beyond my taste.

well the showdown started off well, with Izzy and Trinity pretty hot, but the second and third parts weren't as good, and although they were clearly fully nude, it stopped at that level, there were no accidental slips, etc.
I didn't watch Linda and Zoe, so I cant comment fairly.
Maybe the nightshow will be good
Just hope next weeks showdown is allowed to be a hot one, with Angelina getting her hands on Destiny, lucky devil

Thanks Kenny for creating your own separate Thread The reason I say thanks is because we will no longer have to read your nightly exclusive reviews on the main TV Threads which you once said were open to discuss the 2 shows. I'm happy to see that you have now seen the error of your ways

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Again a very nice show of Izzy. Her look reminds me of evah and her movements are on point + she is good with other girls.
Currently I can't get enough of her