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The ETV bar seems getting higher and higher in these days. But I am afraid it's already too high for my taste.
Today Alice made 3 premium shows in a row, it was shows for 12 credits together and the only visible thing she performed was a topless. The other girls taken as her supporters were even not better, only topless again. Except Jade who was the only one fully naked all the time, and who has my hude respect for this attitude of her. But because the camera is as usually scared to follow her, even her effort is totaly useless at he end. What a shame. .

Etv in these days is really ridiculous. Without the right attitude from the girls and mainly cameramans, all the arty ideas and expensive decoration will never help the web to get working..

If this step back to softness now even in the web shows in the premiums is meant as some joke, then I probably don't have the right sense for the humour. And if this all is really meant seriously, then I have no more words.. Just don't count with me as a supporter anymore .

I am really sorry for the people who pay the credits in these days.

And sorry for my bothering of some notorious admirers here, but after reading the never ending etv wall praising bullshits and also after some comments here ala Dreamlander (nothing against you), I think it's the highest time to write also the opposite opinions and finally some other truths about the qualities of the shows.

asoert wrote:hi i missed the show did alice & tiffani became naked in the show and what exactly they showed? thanks

Both were 'artistically' naked. Alice,no panties with a wet satin gown just about covering her.Tiffani,naked in the 'bath' when caressing Nancy in the second hour.Both have shown more before but it was no less sexy for lack of anything 'full frontal'.

Dreamlander

asoert wrote:hi i missed the show did alice & tiffani became naked in the show and what exactly they showed? thanks

Alice and Tiffany topless.

hi i missed the show did alice & tiffani became naked in the show and what exactly they showed? thanks

A very beautiful show with three very beautiful girls! Big thanks to Alice,Nancy and Tiffani for 120 wet and wonderful minutes in this evening's Premium Show!

Dreamlander

@JohnGuitar:
they never will do that.
The best way is always to tell them und not us what you are thinking about it! is it crap/or is it good
And much better is to ignore it. Don´t pay for something you don´t like,don´t watch for something you don´t like.
How more people ignore their stuff,how more they feel it in their wallet.
And if that doesn´t work, well then it´s just bad luck for you/or me or whoever.
Because they making this not Special for Leahluv or JohnGuitar .
They making it for the mainstream outthere.And not for those few people who hanging around here,and
always thinking they are the only ones.
I just asking me how much is the is the percentage of the people who watching and visiting this forum
and those who watching and not visiting this forum

Hi Chris26

Yours is a good point, but I think all this messy situation could come to
an end if ETV assumes all the responsability and ask its viewers this
question:
We made the show program a while ago and never asked for peoples thoughts,
so, thanks for any feedback.
In that case and only afterwards we could have our say.-
Overall I think your show is messy and clinging or annoying and misleading,
and I would change a couple of things, like etc-etc.
Till ETV will admit errors or mistakes we will just mourning with mere words
and repetitive pattern like bad wallpaper;
Best regards
JohnGuitar

@chris26
I think you fully get the point... or better: all the points
and, as a..."member" I feel free to add something
I have one question: are the complaints we see on the screen in the NS against the show itself and the "doingnothing models" free/not billed?
No! they even cost more than some crap premium shows on the web
So please stop this crap about "no paying=no complains"

Just a reply to T_C (and others about the pay/free thing), ignoring many posts here which are seriously opening many new perspectives on human vacuity.

I am a member, not a viewer (to use the same bold words that were used), yet my complaints are treated in the same way as those by people who do not pay. So the whole argument of "freeloaders can't complain, members can" falls flat because it's clear that the general treatment is the same.
Which already says a lot, but let's go on.

I am not complaining about the existence of the Web per se, eventhough I would have used it differently (for example, as an extension for normal TV shows, in order to avoid the TV censorship during the day, having soft models in the TV and hot models in the Web, but with the same approach, that is, VIP SMS, calls, ect. Like the TV show section on the site right now, only just on the web).

I am complaining about the fact that ETV are willingly giving less importance to the TV and to the "shows" in it in order to attract customers on the Web. I say "shows" in inverted commas because there is no "show" anymore on the TV. At 22, a random girl introduces the models in the studio for 2 minutes on the microphone, then everybody sits down waiting for wishes that might or might not be fulfilled. Not to mention, oftentimes the shows in the TV are interrupted (or like in that one case, completely abandoned) in order to promote the premium shows on the Internet, and the casting for the night shows has been more and more, shall I say, "boring" (to avoid using other epithets) these recent times. And I'm still not talking about models who decide that it's comfortable to show themselves only on the Internet.

Since I know what many intelligent people here are going to say, let me stress once more that I'm not complaining because it's no longer free, as I've paid for many premium shows which interested me and I also think that some of them were worth the price given what was shown, by whom and in which way. It is a matter of principle, but I guess that for some you principles must be tough to understand.

As a final note, I notice that there are always the same 6-7 people giving high fives to each other and supporting themselves while writing exactly the same things. The funny thing is that they accuse other people of repeating the same stuff over and over. Well, let me say, about ETV and some models, I happened to change my mind several times as it is normal for a person. But some of you are 200% stuck on your positions, in that nothing is wrong with the channel, everything has always been perfect and couldn't be improved in any way, and all the complainers are just people with no life. Given that it is not strange sometimes to be in disagreement also with best friends, I find it... peculiar that you are always the ones "repeating the same stuff over and over". At this point, you can't blame me for thinking that your "opinions" (not opinions as they can't change and don't change) are completely biased or that there must be something behind. You keep blaming everyone else because that's very convenient, for sure.

robert wrote:

space6969 wrote:To me most of your postings sound a little confused and confusing,

You accuse someone of being confused but you confuse a response to a personal attack with something more general.

space6969 wrote:The models have all my respect,

You do realise you are supporting someone with a vendetta against several of the models?

So what? Even I had (and I don't) has it been prohibited?
As below.

Mr_Niceguy wrote:

outside wrote:I have respect for money because I work to get it, you are the one who claimed about too low price for premiums.

It is painfully clear that you don't respect people, so with that in mind this post is clarifying. It is a good thing your job is so demanding it leaves you enough time to harace this forum, it's members, the models and everything else that is not inclined to bow to your every wish. Why don't you withdraw to you're own fantasy world, you know,the one in which you are always right because facts can be bend to your will. On top it seems you have trouble reading, I was talking about discounting premium shows, but as far as I know we were not discussing that here.

Yes outside, once a mighty moderator now a selfproclaimed powerless victim of mobbing, someone with a need to feel important no matter the cost to others. Less then a fly on the wall not even worthy of attention.

Someone has already replied to this ridicolous post, so I won't waste my time anymore.
As I already pointed, we speak different languages.

Mr_Niceguy wrote:...... Less then a fly on the wall not even worthy of attention.

I remember banned member for less than such kind of posting.

robert wrote:

space6969 wrote:

robert wrote:

space6969 wrote:To me most of your postings sound a little confused and confusing,

You accuse someone of being confused but you confuse a response to a personal attack with something more general.

I didn't confuse anything, it's a reaction to Mr_Niceguy, who called this thread broad-brush respectless to the models several times here
and in PMs.

robert wrote:

space6969 wrote:The models have all my respect,

You do realise you are supporting someone with a vendetta against several of the models?

I don't support any user, it's a reaction to Mr_Niceguy, who etc etc.

So why did you quote, in its entirety, Mr_Niceguy's response to Outside?

Because I felt like writing a reaction to this posting and Mr_Niceguy's postings in general.
This is getting pointless...

space6969 wrote:

robert wrote:

space6969 wrote:To me most of your postings sound a little confused and confusing,

You accuse someone of being confused but you confuse a response to a personal attack with something more general.

I didn't confuse anything, it's a reaction to Mr_Niceguy, who called this thread broad-brush respectless to the models several times here
and in PMs.

robert wrote:

space6969 wrote:The models have all my respect,

You do realise you are supporting someone with a vendetta against several of the models?

I don't support any user, it's a reaction to Mr_Niceguy, who etc etc.

So why did you quote, in its entirety, Mr_Niceguy's response to Outside?

Slowfox wrote:And all those none paying viewers complain constantly about the quality of the shows and ask for improvement for nothing, But it is still the members support which makes the show run.

D'accord with that, but how do you know who is a paying member and who is not ?
I don't...