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JohnGuitar wrote:Previous post

If you want to know what I really think, I believe that it's just another way to say "We don't know what she's going to do", which, in layman's terms, means that she will not do more than what she has already done or, probably, she will do less.
Anyway, today I'm in a good mood and for once I'd like to say that, even if she doesn't show anything more than usual, 1 credit is not such a big loss, if you're already a customer and you don't have to buy 10 credits to register an account anyway.

On Monday 14th January 2013 at 21.00pm Rose simple Premium
Show, 1 credit.
Now, can someone explain me please what's SIMPLE for, and how
does it works.
We'd all like a reputation for generosity, and we'd all like to buy it cheap
but as I understood (I might be wrong) in this case it's Ridiculousness
to call cheap for and simple to Rose one of the most beautiful face in
ETV shows at the moment.
Gentlemen, best regards

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JohnGuitar

I think it's more an attempt to justify boring premiums, e.g.: "You paid only 1 credit so you have no reason to complain, it's almost as if it were for free!"

By the way, I wonder if, after Timi, they're going to officially reprimand Jade also?

JBGOOD wrote:isn't it a meat market, whatever the price is?

do you get money for your work or are you working for free?

if you work for free feel free to call it a meat market, if you get/ take money for your work accept that others want to earn money, too.

even covering other costs than wages would need money.

WILSONSAND wrote:

JBGOOD wrote:Simple Premium hour: 1 token... sorry: 1credit if 1model, 2 credits if 2 model...what is this?
Once we were use to talk about respect...now... 5 credits is too cheep and as answer Ivo is selling the models at 1 credit per one show...it is really the meat market.
I beg pardon to all models, from Ava to Lilian for this treatment..: how much I miss the old times NS, and maybe you too.
my respect dear ladies

that´s not true at all, since wednesday: one single model one hour is 3 credits, and 2 models 4 credits, for example:

Wednesday 16th
18:00 CET - Aria - Premium Hour / 3 credits /
20:00 CET - Kiara - Premium Hour / 3 credits /
22:00 CET - Aria and Kiara - Premium Hour / 4 credits /

and so on...

isn't it a meat market, whatever the price is?

JBGOOD wrote:Simple Premium hour: 1 token... sorry: 1credit if 1model, 2 credits if 2 model...what is this?
Once we were use to talk about respect...now... 5 credits is too cheep and as answer Ivo is selling the models at 1 credit per one show...it is really the meat market.
I beg pardon to all models, from Ava to Lilian for this treatment..: how much I miss the old times NS, and maybe you too.
my respect dear ladies

that´s not true at all, since wednesday: one single model one hour is 3 credits, and 2 models 4 credits, for example:

Wednesday 16th
18:00 CET - Aria - Premium Hour / 3 credits /
20:00 CET - Kiara - Premium Hour / 3 credits /
22:00 CET - Aria and Kiara - Premium Hour / 4 credits /

and so on...

Simple Premium hour: 1 token... sorry: 1credit if 1model, 2 credits if 2 model...what is this?
Once we were use to talk about respect...now... 5 credits is too cheep and as answer Ivo is selling the models at 1 credit per one show...it is really the meat market.

From ETV Wall, Mr.Niceguy:
"... In all honesty I feel it is totally unacceptable a show this good could be seen for only 5 credits. You cannot really put a price on what Mashi or any other model for that matter is giving to the viewer. What we should at least give her is the respect she/they deserve(s). Asking only 5 credits for a 4 hour premium is doing exactly the opposite, In doing so you are opening the door for other disrespectfull behavior towards models and I can imagine it taking a toll on these wonderfull girls selfesteem. I understand you are trying to run a business and you are trying different ways to attract customers and this discount show was a means to that end. However in my opinion this will be very counterproductive in the medium term. I have never written on the wall as I didn't want to bother you, but I feel very strongly about this. I hope you will consider my feelings on this matter as you try to imagine yourself in the models position and how you would feel in that position. Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself..."

And sorry, i can´t believe what i´ve read, i agree the shows were good, but...what is this? Maybe this is the first time i know a customer ask for more expensive prizes....¿? Maybe Mr. Niceguy wants shows only a minor elite of rich men watching the shows...and i wonder...what is better for the selfesteem of the models: 10 guys watching a 10credits shows or 25 guys watching a 5 credits show? 10 or 25 customers?

Mr.Niceguy says it´s an "totally unacceptable" prize, because 5 credits hurts the models selfesteem. But, who Mr.Niceguy does think they are? Bar Rafaelli o Giselle Bündchen? No, with all due respects, and they know it (exception made with Karry, sorry... ). I don´t think this girls are not superstars to make expensive shows. They are amateurs, and they know perfectly well where they are working and who are working with. Some time ago, Mashi was doing hotter shows for free without this "extra" money of this premium shows.

I think 8 euros for 4 hours of show is right as attracting customer strategy. If they do that, it´s because they want more customers, and that´s why they set lower prizes and discounts.

Anyway, take a look at the shows: the models spend almost 15 minutes/show or even more at micro, x4 shows= 1 hour at micro, so you are really watching 4-1=3 hours of pure show, what is almost the duration of The hobbit, the last film from Peter Jackson, and is almost what i must pay for enjoying this mega production at cinema with a super big screen.

Anyway, ETV cried because the show with Mashi, Kristina and Tia had almost no viewers, (i think that is worse for the models selfesteem) so if ETV wants being alive, and wants more people buying the shows and finally, if ETV wants money and paying that great artists like Mashi, or Suzy or Jeit , it seems cheaper prizes are a good choice, (i think there was a good number of customers watching mashi, so it seemed the prizes strategy worked well), and if they don´t get money, this great artists will lose their work, what could it be worst for their selfesteem.

I think the models must fight for their selfsteem making respectable their job. And the first who don´t respect their job is ETV, making them working in stupid and exhausting shifts, and producing the shows with a shameful censorship that destroys their job all the time, or their own creativity, eroticism and talent because absurd artistics pretensions from the staff. By the way, in my opinion, the gifts selling strategy with so expensive prizes should shame someone, and shame is not very good to selfesteem. Maybe they lost it all to accept it all, or maybe they don´t know what selfesteem or shame it is after so many time working with this guys.

p.s.: I do not think the measure of respect is the cost of their shows, but their work and their attitude with the customers.

Tarl_Cabot wrote:btw: none of the top camgirls would work for the money etv models get for their job. most mfc top models earn more in one night than an etv model in one month and some of them show nothing or nearly nothing.

Yeah is true and what you describe is the big fact indeed who all people who enter the erotic program have to submit when they paying for girls.
The system only can run if you willing to spend your money for a lie to feel better by your self!
And here is the bottom line: They doing her show not for you to entertain you. To cheer you. To satisfy your dreams. NO! They make this for only one fuc.. reason to pay their bills and earn money to handle life.

Angelika wrote:etv page down


just as I wanted to use the remote cam on evahs legs

ah, it was you killing their bandwidth

etv page down


just as I wanted to use the remote cam on evahs legs

Of the 2 streamings available on the site, one is broken and the other has a ~10 minutes lag.

And we should show respect towards this company.

pollopollo wrote:

Chris26 wrote:

space6969 wrote:[

Chris26 wrote:I don't know about Chaturbate but I guess the countdown system is integrated there so a performer is obliged to do the advertised show once the countdown gets fulfilled.

There's a "report abuse" button, and I've seen performers getting banned just minutes after they didn't deliver what they promised.

I want a report abuse button on ETVShow also!

If there was this button with ETV, ETV would have closed for a long time!

I have a similar button......it's red and placed on my remote control.

Chris26 wrote:

space6969 wrote:[

Chris26 wrote:I don't know about Chaturbate but I guess the countdown system is integrated there so a performer is obliged to do the advertised show once the countdown gets fulfilled.

There's a "report abuse" button, and I've seen performers getting banned just minutes after they didn't deliver what they promised.

I want a report abuse button on ETVShow also!

If there was this button with ETV, ETV would have closed for a long time!

space6969 wrote:

Tarl_Cabot wrote:most mfc top models earn more in one night than an etv model in one month and some of them show nothing or nearly nothing.

Can't take issue with you about mfc, but I was referring to sites like cam4 or chaturbate.
There the performers set goals for certain actions and when the goal is met via tips of the viewers, the performers are well-advised
to do what they promised, because if they don't, next time very few tips will come in.

Don't know what ETV models earn, I would suspect it's rather low, but performers can't grow rich on cam4 and chaturbate also.

You are not kidding, watched a bloke tip 15,000 token the other night on mfc.
Why even bother watching etv on the web, when there are much, much better alternatives.