Eurotic's website & webstream

@Watcher
Before you start to force someone to read any terms and conditions, you should be the first who reads it more carefully.

Just read this sentence again.
" This Agreement contains the entire agreement between the Subscriber and TGE regarding Subscribers use of this site, Materials and all materials directly and indirectly related thereto. "

The whole text of the terms and conditions doesn't contain a single word about an Agreement between TGE and the visitor (non-subscriber), it also doesn't contain a single a word about a material which is out of the subscription. Simply said, a common website visitor (non- subscriber) can use the free part of the site without any restriction.

For your information, I am not a subscriber and the yesterday's show was in the free part of the website. So there is nothing more to debate.

And also for your information, until now neither anybody related to etv nor Karry herself sent me a requst for removing this video. The link is still working, so even the rapidshare admin wasn't asked for that.
The video isn't a problem for anybody... except you (and Rialpka)

Watcher wrote:Of course I remember the agreement which was made before the current website and streams came into existence.

remember the former website, compare it with the current and have also a look at the Forum Rules which were made some years ago.

Admin wrote:In respect of video posts from eUrotic Tv:

• No videos from InXtc TV are to be posted anywhere on this site be it the forums or members contributions to the multimedia section.
• Show all videos unedited. This means leave all phone numbers and logos as they are on the screen during broadcast.
• Exclude any videos and pictures offered on the official or authorised websites for pay download.
  

if we assume a pre-paid membership as a kind of pay content we neither need to discuss anything again nor we need to edit or renew the Forum Rules. these are still up-to-date.

All this over one tit, we're lucky it wasn't her pussy oops from 080512.

Watcher wrote:...
You can't pass anything you get from the website on to anybody else.

How ETV choose to enforce these [Versteckter Link - Registrierung notwendig] is at their discretion.

If you want to disagree with me, read the [Versteckter Link - Registrierung notwendig] for yourself.

But being not allowed is something different from being not able to.
Even assuming the recordings from the members shows aren't being shared anywhere, I'm pretty sure several members will do them for their own collection, so it's presumably they exist, so from technical point of view it's possible they appear somewhere else on the internet, if by accident or on purpose, in the end no matter, they exist.
So every girl should be aware also the members show is a public event and not necessarily limited to a certain number of viewers.

Regards
Joker

Tarl_Cabot wrote:

Watcher wrote:I feel that I am banging my head against a brick wall here but one final thrash ...

But has anybody bothered to read the [Versteckter Link - Registrierung notwendig] for the use of the ETV website?

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dear Watcher,

of course you remember the agreement made with etv in the past about posting etv vids as it's writen in the Forum Rules.
and of course you know the Mods well enough to assume that this topic was already discussed before the Karry vid was posted.
so no need to worry about what you've read on the etv website.

hope you feel better now.
good night & sleep well (wave).

Of course I remember the agreement which was made before the current website and streams came into existence.
Of course I know the Mods and their friends well enough to know that these videos were watched and discussed in some quiet corner.
Of course I don't need to worry about the legal implications on ETV's website, I'm not posting anything which could be considered to be their IP.

Yes, I feel fantastic!!!!

ps @fcn2011 You didn't understand, did you?

Watcher wrote:I feel that I am banging my head against a brick wall here but one final thrash ...

But has anybody bothered to read the [Versteckter Link - Registrierung notwendig] for the use of the ETV website?

A quick précis ...
By using the website you agree to the [Versteckter Link - Registrierung notwendig] ... No like? No use!
You can watch and download anything there.
You can't pass anything you get from the website on to anybody else.

How ETV choose to enforce these [Versteckter Link - Registrierung notwendig] is at their discretion.

If you want to disagree with me, read the [Versteckter Link - Registrierung notwendig] for yourself.

Excuse me,

but first you didn´t saw much of your beloved Karry and second if Karry is not woman enough to work for a erotic channel she should sell Hamburgers or Döner.

As we say in german "Viel Lärm um nichts"

Watcher wrote:I feel that I am banging my head against a brick wall here but one final thrash ...

But has anybody bothered to read the [Versteckter Link - Registrierung notwendig] for the use of the ETV website?

<snip>

dear Watcher,

of course you remember the agreement made with etv in the past about posting etv vids as it's writen in the Forum Rules.
and of course you know the Mods well enough to assume that this topic was already discussed before the Karry vid was posted.
so no need to worry about what you've read on the etv website.

hope you feel better now.
good night & sleep well (wave).

I feel that I am banging my head against a brick wall here but one final thrash ...

But has anybody bothered to read the [Versteckter Link - Registrierung notwendig] for the use of the ETV website?

A quick précis ...
By using the website you agree to the [Versteckter Link - Registrierung notwendig] ... No like? No use!
You can watch and download anything there.
You can't pass anything you get from the website on to anybody else.

How ETV choose to enforce these [Versteckter Link - Registrierung notwendig] is at their discretion.

If you want to disagree with me, read the [Versteckter Link - Registrierung notwendig] for yourself.

dazaman wrote:Certain members talk about respect to the models but none towards the forum, the video in question as been posted and all i see is demands from Her fans for it to be taken down, neither ETV or Karry as done so, if or when they do we will but until then there is nothing to discuss it was a FREE show by mistake, so ETV are to blame not LSTV!

What remaining to be said ……Thanks for the clear and honest explanation for the whole situation .

Based on your statement we could conclude that ...both ETV and Karry ....are really able to pretect themselves …and therefore , If they want to remove that link ....they will do …instead…...they want the stupid game to continue .

Meanwhile …..I don't mind if some would protest for ….the privacy of the girls themselves. ....But honestly …I find it a bit strange ….when I see some people protest for the others rights …..while they don't care about protesting for their own rights .

If there is someone wants really to protest ….It's better to protest for a real and valid reason….I would prefer to protest for respecting my own rights....calling for a good service ...calling for not breaking their promises ...for changing these bad atmosphere inside the channel .

Would we do this ....No ...instead , we will continue to protest for the others rights ...who are fully able to protect themselves and their rights ....However we still aren't able to gain some ..just some ..of our rights

rialpka wrote:...

What make you when you feel betrayed?
You do not position any more in situation to be still betrayed.
Karry was betrayed. She will not be it any more because she will make nothing more.
A single poster which wanted to distinguish himself has ruined one year of evolution with the help of some the others. Great work!!!!

So it's the fault of the publisher?
Also the members shows can be recorded.
That the recordings may not be shared here may reduce the range of the distribution, but it will not change several recordings exist and possibly can be shared anyway.
So even it was not intended to be broadcast FTA Karry should have known there will be recordings and she should have taken the decision in advance.
What ever you do, do it from your heart. I hope Karry did so (haven't seen the video yet, but I think there's nothing at her body she needs to hide), then everything should be fine anyway.

Regards
Joker

Today I saw Ammy at (her?) home and was a little bit shocked about this kind of show.
It's quite similar to all these Let's-go-pvt places on the web ...

What worries me is the contrast: On one side all these high gloss photo sessions and studio productions that made these girls little stars.
On the other side the cheap 'model-at-home' broadcasting on the web that makes them look like ordinary girls who want to get some extra money for their student's life and have to 'go private' for some coins/credits.

If I am talking of an exclusive show I don't think of excluding most of the viewers in first place, but of exclusiveness in the sense of style, value and visual impression - something tasteful and outstanding.

And still lots of technical problems and insufficiencies ...
Hopefully this is not the future of etv - just another try to use the full scale of possibilities.

Just my humble opinion

time to loosen up this thread again,

Tiffani probably has a really nice speaking voice, pity I can't hear her ............

just a question of pushing the right button

update : success

At the end of the day LSTV gets take down orders regularly by fans of certain girls aka there favourites which we sympathise with them but can't follow through with, 1, the fans are only asking for there own personal reasons not the models wishes, 2, if we bow down to all requests from fans this forum would only have model video threads that no one has interest in, 3, we are a independent forum no matter what others think or say we only follow rules set by some channels out of respect to them and safety of the models! 4, we respect all models and channels wishes if they ask us to take content down, not fans!

Certain members talk about respect to the models but none towards the forum, the video in question as been posted and all i see is demands from Her fans for it to be taken down, neither ETV or Karry as done so, if or when they do we will but until then there is nothing to discuss it was a FREE show by mistake, so ETV are to blame not LSTV!

rialpka wrote:Has anybody asked Karry about her opinion before posting her Vid?
Karry hated vid on the Internet(without she will be more hot) like other models and even more the one who is stolen while the model thinks that there will be no publication but nobody takes into account of her will.
Missing to press the privat button seemed quite expensive,so punish? ETV problem!

Well, there would have been an easy solution for Karry to prevent this problem: DON'T GO BRALESS INFRONT OF A CAMERA!!! It's her own choice, her free will to work in the erotic business and it is her own choice to go infront of the camera just wearing a tiny thong and no bra. To be pissed off if an ooops ends up on the internet afterwards is a bit naive from her.

If she does not want the world to see her breasts? WEAR A BRA LITTLE GIRL!!!

I believe the whole thing could be planned by ETV to deliver a good opportunity for Karry to turn into a hot model. We all should be happy about and not sending complains.
There were no nice words about Karry in all the last posts since yesterday. We should let her know that we like what we saw and there is no reason to be ashamed about. We must support her! Give her strength and a good feeling to continue.
Karry, well done and I am looking forward to see more of her hot moments.

Btw, no matter what happened with a "button" or whatever, the sense of the exclusive show should be to show more from a model as normally seen. ETV always uses regulations in free TV as excuses why models do not show what they should show in an erotic show. My expectation would be to see more from a model because the show is watchable on the internet and by members only (paid service). Unfortunately the "exclusive" shows show less then on TV (except for nudity during daytime). This should change.

Cheers.