Eurotic TV - General Discussion

colt45 wrote:I agree both of you!

In addition, i can't understand the term of "soft models" which they are not showing anything only plays with the consumers mind and shows nothing. Lots of people in this forum agreed on the idea of "It is the decision of the models on the show. She can show something or nothing." No!. It's not dependent to models. If that so, why are they working for erotic channel called ETV. That is something called money-trap. In past times ETV agreed with the models in night show models which they are equivalent sexy to daytime models such as cassie, jasmine etc.. ETV should change the mentality of nudity shows for both night-time and daytime premium shows. Otherwise they will lose lots of viewers in the future.

You took the words right out of my mouth!
The term 'soft model' in an erotic channel like ETV is completely contrary to me, too. I also agree with your opinion that ETV will lose / has lost (increasingly) spectators and -what's more important for ETV- callers/SMS writers. In the last time the models are talking more with themselves than with viewers (especially in the daytime shows, but not only there), the same SMS's are being shown multiple times on TV in the daytime as well as in the nighttime shows, 'Happy hours' are offered more often than in the past ... But there's seems to be enough money left that ETV hasn't to change anything!

Hannes

malmaisons wrote:

goldy wrote:same girls are evry day and night online without a break, i think they are sick and tired... they need a pause; etv staff need a pause too.
Better to see your favourite model 1 day a week in a "real" studio instead of this mindless show.

Actually I agree to your thoughts and want to add another point of view - watching your favorite model doing the same stuff 5 times a week for 5 or more hours can get boring and exhausting. In the old days my favorite model used to take over shifts of other girls very spontaneously - doing 5 to 7 shows a week - who is able to watch and live a normal life 'besides'? You will get sick and tired too - literally.

On the other hand the reason for most of the girls to work for ETV is money - and the more shows the more money. As far as I know it's more profitable for the girls to do night shows - so it's remarkable that Nancy stays away from them for a while. Nancy is one of the models who hardly did daytime shows at all - she is a night show 'resident'.
But over the years stripping bare became a routine and some day the thrill is gone - for the model and for the viewer. Therefore it's good to see some changes - like Nancy with new habits, girls with new hairstyle, girls back from holidays with a tan and a few pounds more ... or (and this is essential) new models joining the pack.

I agree both of you!

In addition, i can't understand the term of "soft models" which they are not showing anything only plays with the consumers mind and shows nothing. Lots of people in this forum agreed on the idea of "It is the decision of the models on the show. She can show something or nothing." No!. It's not dependent to models. If that so, why are they working for erotic channel called ETV. That is something called money-trap. In past times ETV agreed with the models in night show models which they are equivalent sexy to daytime models such as cassie, jasmine etc.. ETV should change the mentality of nudity shows for both night-time and daytime premium shows. Otherwise they will lose lots of viewers in the future.

hannes20 wrote:I’m watching ETV for a few years now, especially the night shows. But I’m getting bored more and more in the last time. More or less always the same faces and bodies. It doesn’t bother me when the models are switching from night shows to daytime shows and vice versa. But why isn’t ETV able to engage (new) models who will work in the night shifts, too? Instead of 'Only-daytime-no nude-models' like Cassie, Jasmine and so on? That would bring more variety between the shows and -I’m very sure of that- more money for ETV. What do you think about my 'complaint'?

Hannes

About 2 months ago they tried to get more personal for the nightshows, they even introduced a new "nightshow-dreamteam" of the future at their website, with Dakota, Kelly, Leila, Melanie, White . . . what happened to this team?

- Dakota makes 1 or 2 nightshows a week, but until now without any esprit or motivation, even refuses wishes for full nudity, which is no problem for her in webshows
- Kelly had only 1 nightshow, same lifeless performance as her sisters nightshows, so sad, both are beautiful, but free of any show-talent
- Melanie . . . after a good start suddenly gone, then back and then gone again for good
- Leila . . . exactly the same story
- White is the only one who has been integrated well and is making good nightshows

and the other "options" . . . sorry, with all respect, but I dont want to see Sharlette or Ginger in nightshows. I also lost any hope to see Jasmine or Cassie in the nightshows. Kat and Rebekka seem to have joined the webonly-club (Jade, Alice, Tara, Sandra . . ). Molly seems to be only a part-time model, this week not even in the schedule, so not really predictable . . .

It is really time for some new tryouts . . . urgently!

hannes20 wrote:I’m watching ETV for a few years now, especially the night shows. But I’m getting bored more and more in the last time. More or less always the same faces and bodies. It doesn’t bother me when the models are switching from night shows to daytime shows and vice versa. But why isn’t ETV able to engage (new) models who will work in the night shifts, too? Instead of 'Only-daytime-no nude-models' like Cassie, Jasmine and so on? That would bring more variety between the shows and -I’m very sure of that- more money for ETV. What do you think about my 'complaint'?

Hannes

Perhaps you need to find a different channel ...

I’m watching ETV for a few years now, especially the night shows. But I’m getting bored more and more in the last time. More or less always the same faces and bodies. It doesn’t bother me when the models are switching from night shows to daytime shows and vice versa. But why isn’t ETV able to engage (new) models who will work in the night shifts, too? Instead of 'Only-daytime-no nude-models' like Cassie, Jasmine and so on? That would bring more variety between the shows and -I’m very sure of that- more money for ETV. What do you think about my 'complaint'?

Hannes

But the fact is, the daytime premium shows are booked as often as not.
So you do Rabatte.OK
It would be better to improve the quality!

lucifer70 wrote:"Combine three or more Daytime Premium Shows and you can enjoy them on a special package prices as follows: 2 or 3 shows – 2 credits; 4 or 5 shows – 3 credits; 6 or 7 shows – 4 credits; 8 or 9 shows – 5 credits; 10 - 12 shows – 6 credits".

Still other discounts? Premium, a truly great and true success!

In reply to which pollopollo wrote:These discounts are not a good sign.

Why the sudden concern?
These offers have been running for months now ...

These discounts are not a good sign.

"Combine three or more Daytime Premium Shows and you can enjoy them on a special package prices as follows: 2 or 3 shows – 2 credits; 4 or 5 shows – 3 credits; 6 or 7 shows – 4 credits; 8 or 9 shows – 5 credits; 10 - 12 shows – 6 credits".

Still other discounts? Premium, a truly great and true success!

tunturi wrote:Slow, no offense, but when others write and talk about censorship, you always say you that it is a conspiracy theory, do you even own what you are trying to explain?

Well, contrary to you I discussed this personally. Does it now make sense to you ?

But I agree it is an atempt to no avail as nobody is interested in what is really going on.

So please carry on with your theories, nobody will spoil your fun with this anymore.

Slow, no offense, but when others write and talk about censorship, you always say you that it is a conspiracy theory, do you even own what you are trying to explain?

Slowfox wrote:

shagshaggy wrote:How many people bought these unbelievable photos of the last two premiums they are nether hot nor erotic just another way to pull credits from the white Knights.
Another thing is the studio looks dull and dreary and this censorship with the mixers trying to justify their jobs, pathetic .

Wrong, once you have seen the show the pics are for free.Tthere are 70 pictures of Kelly and Dacota. They ask for 35 credits for the entire bunch, however, having paid 4 credits for the premium show, you get the show and the pics for 4 credits. Previously in the photo shows you received approx 5 pics per VIP sms, that is 0,8 credits per photo and you didn't even know what you will actually receive.

For those who have not seen the show there is a preview of all pictures, thus it is well visible what is being sold. And still everybody is free to decide for himself what he buys or not.

I see no reason for unreasonable mocking.

And btw. this has nothing whatsoever to do with white knights.

And once and for all:

IT IS THE GIRLS DECIDING WHAT YOU GET TO SEE, NOT THE DIRECTOR, NOT THE MIXER, NOR THE CAMERA GUY !!!!!!!!!

If the camera switches quickly, or moves away fast, or doesn't spot in zoom what you want to see this is in accordance with the request of the girls. Well, some girls are more generous then others and thus you will recognize that there are basically two groups of models in ETV, besides the softies in the dayshows.

But then the ongoing conspiracy theory of censorship is much more interesting.

You are taking it too personal. Ok I start with the mixers and camera crew last night Keira and Saiqa did basic instinct show and showed a lot but was ruined by switching now are you saying they choose not to show a lot or what, the main camera was perfect but the side cameras were not hot scenes.
Now the second show was Kristina and Susy also showing hot scenes but Timmy replied later (sms)and said the director didn't like basic instinct shows thats my reply to that..
as regards the photos now if you want to download soft photos after watching the premium show fine my point is they are too soft who want to watch them and that where the white Knight come to play.
I know you love Kristina but i am saying nothing bad about her.
by the way they are going so good that they can afford to drop the afterhour and a few more hours now who is going to defend that.

Slowfox wrote:. . .snip . .

What I was referring to is the famous censorship, i.e. the theory that the camera guys, director, mixer cut away once the shots get, let's say, too private. The cut away is indeed the case with some girls, but not as a matter of censorship, but because these girls simply do not like it to be pictured that way. Some even get upset when the camera gets too greedy on them and shots are basically being stolen from then without consensus.

And that is what people around cannot or do not want to get in their heads.

Sorry Slowfox, with all respect . . . even if you tell it another 100 times, I still dont believe, you will never get this in my head. But it doesnt matter anyway . . .

I dont even care if the models dont want it or the staff doesnt allow to show more, it is not even important at all who is responsible for the cutoffs. In both cases it is still censorship, what else? And the result also the same in both cases: a boring and spiceless show, which for many people, including me, it is not worth to pay for a single cent.

Have a nice weekend!

JohnGuitar wrote:

Slowfox wrote:[.

And once and for all:

IT IS THE GIRLS DECIDING WHAT YOU GET TO SEE, NOT THE DIRECTOR, NOT THE MIXER, NOR THE CAMERA GUY !!!!!!!!!

If the camera switches quickly, or moves away fast, or doesn't spot in zoom what you want to see this is in accordance with the request of the girls. Well, some girls are more generous then others and thus you will recognize that there are basically two groups of models in ETV, besides the softies in the dayshows.

But then the ongoing conspiracy theory of censorship is much more interesting.

Slowfox, my friend,
with your permission and all due respect, I have to contradict your version regarding the instantaneous or swift of camera during the girls action.
I guess it's entirely the work of director/cameraman.
I remember many times Nancy and other girls used to remain upset as the camera been getting somewhere else.
JohnGuitar

What you say is valid for a normal performance.

What I was referring to is the famous censorship, i.e. the theory that the camera guys, director, mixer cut away once the shots get, let's say, too private. The cut away is indeed the case with some girls, but not as a matter of censorship, but because these girls simply do not like it to be pictured that way. Some even get upset when the camera gets too greedy on them and shots are basically being stolen from them without consent.

And that is what people around cannot or do not want to get in their heads.

Slowfox wrote:[.

And once and for all:

IT IS THE GIRLS DECIDING WHAT YOU GET TO SEE, NOT THE DIRECTOR, NOT THE MIXER, NOR THE CAMERA GUY !!!!!!!!!

If the camera switches quickly, or moves away fast, or doesn't spot in zoom what you want to see this is in accordance with the request of the girls. Well, some girls are more generous then others and thus you will recognize that there are basically two groups of models in ETV, besides the softies in the dayshows.

But then the ongoing conspiracy theory of censorship is much more interesting.

Slowfox, my friend,
with your permission and all due respect, I have to contradict your version regarding the instantaneous or swift of camera during the girls action.
I guess it's entirely the work of director/cameraman.
I remember many times Nancy and other girls used to remain upset as the camera been getting somewhere else.
JohnGuitar