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next year seems kimi raikkonen will be back in the ferrari team

08/09/1984 vitalij petrov f1 driver
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The result of the Italian race :

Vettel takes commanding Monza win :
Sebastian Vettel reeled off another dominant Formula 1 victory in the Italian Grand Prix, as Fernando Alonso won a battle for second place. With the lead Red Bull out of reach from the start, the best Ferrari could hope for was 'best of the rest' honours, which Alonso secured after a long tussle with Vettel's team-mate Mark Webber. Both Red Bulls were ordered to short-shift to protect potential gearbox issues in the closing stages, but while that stymied Webber's pursuit of Alonso, Vettel had enough in hand to back off and still comfortably triumph. In further good news for Vettel, erstwhile title threats Lewis Hamilton and Kimi Raikkonen were left squabbling (spectacularly) over minor points after early incidents. Vettel was threatened by both Webber and the second Ferrari of Felipe Massa into a crowded first corner, but kept himself ahead and swiftly pulled away. A beautifully judged move around the outside into the Roggia chicane on lap three took Alonso past Webber's Red Bull for third, as they went wheel to wheel right through the complex, making only slight contact on the exit. Massa then made life very easy for Alonso when he came to overtake for second, and the Spaniard was able to stabilise Vettel's lead at six seconds. But when Alonso tried a slightly divergent strategy by running four laps longer before his sole pitstop, Vettel's lead increased to over 10s. Alonso came back out only just ahead of Webber, who had jumped Massa in the stops, and had several close calls in the closing laps as the Red Bull attacked, before claiming second. Nico Hulkenberg lived up to his qualifying performance by settling his Sauber into fifth place. He had Nico Rosberg's Mercedes in often very close company all afternoon, but kept his compatriot at bay and finished just a few seconds behind Alonso, Webber and Massa after an outstanding weekend. Raikkonen had to pit for a new front wing after bumping into Sergio Perez at the start, while an early slow puncture put Hamilton onto a two-stop strategy, hampered further by radio problems. The recovering Lotus and Mercedes then ended up in the same place on track late on having an epic battle both with each other and the midfield traffic. Daniel Ricciardo stayed just far enough ahead of late chargers Romain Grosjean and Hamilton to take seventh, while Jenson Button just denied Raikkonen a point. Sergio Perez and Esteban Gutierrez chased them home.Grosjean reached the end despite Paul di Resta's Force India slamming into his Lotus at the Roggia on lap one, an impact that ended the Scot's race. Jean-Eric Vergne was another early retirement, having battled in the top 10 before smoke erupted from the right rear of his Toro Rosso .

1. Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull Racing 1h.18m.33.52
2. Fernando Alonso - Ferrari + 5.4 53
3. Mark Webber - Red Bull Racing + 6.3 53
4. Felipe Massa - Ferrari + 9.3 53
5. Nico Hulkenberg - Sauber + 10.3 53
6. Nico Rosberg - Mercedes GP + 10.9 53
7. Daniel Ricciardo - Toro Rosso + 32.3 53
8. Romain Grosjean - Lotus + 33.1 53
9. Lewis Hamilton - Mercedes GP + 33.5 53
10. Jenson Button - McLaren + 38.3 53
11. Kimi Räikkönen - Lotus + 38.6 53
12. Sergio Perez - McLaren + 39.7 53
13. Esteban Gutierrez - Sauber + 40.8 53
14. Pastor Maldonado - Williams + 49.0 53
15. Valtteri Bottas - Williams + 56.8 53
16. Adrian Sutil - Force India
17. Charles Pic - Caterham + 1 lap
18. Giedo van der Garde - Caterham + 1 lap
19. Jules Bianchi - Marussia F1 Team + 1 lap
20. Max Chilton - Marussia F1 Team + 1 lap
Did Not Finish :
21. Jean-Eric Vergne - Toro Rosso
22. Paul di Resta - Force India

Fastest Lap : Lewis Hamilton - 1:25.849
Pitstop Romain Grosjean : 1
Bat. 2 Teams : Nico Rosberg (Mercedes GP ) > Daniel Ricciardo ( Toro Rosso )
Grid.Pos.Lewis Hamilton : 9th place

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

2013 FORMULA 1 SINGTEL SINGAPORE GRAND PRIX
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Fri 20 September 2013
Practice 1 12:00 - 13:30
Practice 2 15:30 - 17:00
Sat 21 September 2013
Practice 3 12:00 - 13:00
Qualifying 15:00
Sun 22 September 2013
Race 14:00

drivers standings
1 Sebastian Vettel German Red Bull Racing-Renault 222
2 Fernando Alonso Spanish Ferrari 169
3 Lewis Hamilton British Mercedes 141
4 Kimi Räikkönen Finnish Lotus-Renault 134
5 Mark Webber Australian Red Bull Racing-Renault 130
6 Nico Rosberg German Mercedes 104
7 Felipe Massa Brazilian Ferrari 79
8 Romain Grosjean French Lotus-Renault 57
9 Jenson Button British McLaren-Mercedes 48
10 Paul di Resta British Force India-Mercedes 36
11 Adrian Sutil German Force India-Mercedes 25
12 Sergio Perez Mexican McLaren-Mercedes 18
13 Daniel Ricciardo Australian STR-Ferrari 18
14 Nico Hulkenberg German Sauber-Ferrari 17
15 Jean-Eric Vergne French STR-Ferrari 13
16 Pastor Maldonado Venezuelan Williams-Renault 1
17 Valtteri Bottas Finnish Williams-Renault 0
18 Esteban Gutierrez Mexican Sauber-Ferrari 0
19 Jules Bianchi French Marussia-Cosworth 0
20 Charles Pic French Caterham-Renault 0
21 Giedo van der Garde Dutch Caterham-Renault 0
22 Max Chilton British Marussia-Cosworth 0

constructors standings
1 Red Bull Racing-Renault 352
2 Ferrari 248
3 Mercedes 245
4 Lotus-Renault 191
5 McLaren-Mercedes 66
6 Force India-Mercedes 61
7 STR-Ferrari 31
8 Sauber-Ferrari 17
9 Williams-Renault 1
10 Marussia-Cosworth 0
11 Caterham-Renault 0

FORMULA 1 GRAN PREMIO D'ITALIA 2013
race results
1 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 53 Winner 1 25
2 3 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 53 +5.4 secs 5 18
3 2 Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault 53 +6.3 secs 2 15
4 4 Felipe Massa Ferrari 53 +9.3 secs 4 12
5 11 Nico Hulkenberg Sauber-Ferrari 53 +10.3 secs 3 10
6 9 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 53 +10.9 secs 6 8
7 19 Daniel Ricciardo STR-Ferrari 53 +32.3 secs 7 6
8 8 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 53 +33.1 secs 13 4
9 10 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 53 +33.5 secs 12 2
10 5 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 53 +38.3 secs 9 1
11 7 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault 53 +38.6 secs 11
12 6 Sergio Perez McLaren-Mercedes 53 +39.7 secs 8
13 12 Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 53 +40.8 secs 16
14 16 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 53 +49.0 secs 14
15 17 Valtteri Bottas Williams-Renault 53 +56.8 secs 18
16 15 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 52 +1 Lap 17
17 20 Charles Pic Caterham-Renault 52 +1 Lap 20
18 21 Giedo van der Garde Caterham-Renault 52 +1 Lap 19
19 22 Jules Bianchi Marussia-Cosworth +1 Lap 21
20 23 Max Chilton Marussia-Cosworth +1 Lap 22
Ret 18 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Ferrari +39 Laps 10
Ret 14 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes + secs 15
Note - Sutil qualified 14th but was penalised three grid spots for impeding Lewis Hamilton during Q2.

Massa has changed the engine, had an oil leak.
Will not be punished because it has the same engine with the that raced in Belgium.

Hi guys, here in Monza today weather is not so good, there are
chances of rain between 14 and 15, but the air temperature is 23°,
much better than yesterday for drivers
This morning during GP 3 Series Race 2 there were 3 spectacular
crashes with cars destroyed, but luckily without consequences for
drivers involved.
So let's hope F1 race will be also spectacular, but without big
crashes and Alonso will finish at least on the podium, maybe
with Massa
Best regards, Italianfan

News Update :

Gridpenalty for Adrian Sutil :
Sutil will be punished with 3 places because of holpding Hamilton on his fast lap in the Parabolica , Sutil was on the 14th place , he will now start from 17th place !

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

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The Result of the Italian Qualifying :

Vettel leads all-Red Bull front row at Monza :
Sebastian Vettel claimed pole position for the Italian Grand Prix as all his Formula 1 championship rivals made a mess of their qualifying sessions. Fernando Alonso could only qualify fifth amid failed attempts at slipstreaming tactics by Ferrari, while neither Lewis Hamilton nor Kimi Raikkonen made it into the top 10. Mark Webber, meanwhile, made it a Red Bull one-two, while an astounding effort from Nico Hulkenberg gave the struggling Sauber team a shock third place on the grid. Ferrari had experimented with its drivers giving each other slipstreams in final practice, but its efforts to orchestrate the same strategy in Q3 fell apart.
The cars were never close enough to make the tactic work and appeared to end up spoiling each other's laps. Felipe Massa eventually found himself fourth ahead of Alonso. Webber looked to have a shot at pipping Vettel right at the end, but was first on the scene as Jean-Eric Vergne's Toro Rosso ploughed through the Parabolica gravel. That left Vettel clearly on pole with a 1m23.755s lap, 0.2 seconds quicker than his team-mate. Although Adrian Sutil is being investigated for impeding Hamilton's Mercedes at the Parabolica at the end of Q2, the Briton blamed poor driving on his part for the qualifying result. Lotus appeared to be simply short of pace, with Raikkonen and team-mate Romain Grosjean only 11th and 13th. While they all underperformed, Hulkenberg starred with a Q3 lap just 0.037s off Webber's Red Bull and ahead of the Ferraris and Nico Rosberg's Mercedes. Toro Rosso got two cars in Q3, with Daniel Ricciardo seventh but Vergne's mistake leaving him 10th. The two McLarens start behind them, Sergio Perez outqualifying Jenson Button. Sutil is currently 14th, pending any penalty. Force India looked in jeopardy of a Q1 exit until late improvements for both drivers, but there was little progress in Q2. Paul di Resta ended up 16th, just behind fellow late Q1 escapee Pastor Maldonado. Rookies Esteban Gutierrez and Valtteri Bottas were ultimately the drivers who joined the Caterhams and Marussias at the back.

1. Sebastian Vettel- Red Bull Racing - 1:23.755 -
2. Mark Webber -Red Bull Racing - 1:23.968 + 0.213
3. Nico Hulkenberg - Sauber - 1:24.065 + 0.310
4. Felipe Massa - Ferrari - 1:24.132 + 0.377
5. Fernando Alonso - Ferrari - 1:24.142 + 0.387
6. Nico Rosberg - Mercedes GP - 1:24.192 + 0.437
7. Daniel Ricciardo - Toro Rosso - 1:24.209 + 0.454
8. Sergio Perez - McLaren - 1:24.502 + 0.747
9. Jenson Button - McLaren - 1:24.515 + 0.760
10. Jean-Eric Vergne - Toro Rosso - 1:28.050 + 4.295

Q2
11. Kimi Räikkönen - Lotus - 1:24.610 + 0.855
12. Lewis Hamilton - Mercedes GP - 1:24.803 + 1.048
13. Romain Grosjean - Lotus - 1:24.848 + 1.093
14. Adrian Sutil - Force India - 1:24.932 + 1.177
15. Pastor Maldonado - Williams - 1:25.011 + 1.256
16. Paul di Resta - Force India - 1:25.077 + 1.322
17. Esteban Gutierrez - Sauber - 1:25.226 + 1.471

Q1
18. Valtteri Bottas - Williams - 1:25.291 -
19. Giedo van der Garde - Caterham - 1:26.406 + 2.651
20. Charles Pic - Caterham - 1:26.563 + 2.808
21. Jules Bianchi - Marussia F1 Team - 1:27.085 + 3.330
22. Max Chilton - Marussia F1 Team - 1:27.480 + 3.725

Qualifying Time : 1:23.755
Pole : Sebastian Vettel
Team Bat. : Daniel Ricciardo > Jean-Eric Vergne
Grid.Pos.Esteban Gutierrez : 17th place

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

Result of the 3rd practice session :

Vettel keeps Red Bull on top in FP3
Sebastian Vettel kept his Red Bull out of Fernando Alonso's Ferrari's reach in final practice ahead of Italian Grand Prix qualifying.
The session was a battle between Alonso and Red Bull duo Vettel and Mark Webber throughout. Vettel repeated his Friday afternoon performance at first with a 1m24.551s lap that was six tenths of a second clear of his two rivals. Alonso could feel there was more speed to come though, having abandoned a better lap due to yellow flags for Paul di Resta crashing at the Parabolica.
Ferrari had previously tried slipstreaming tactics, with Alonso and Felipe Massa taking turns to tow each other round on their first runs. When they switched to softer tyres for the final laps, Vettel improved first to a 1m24.478s, then a 1m24.360s. Alonso took second from Webber as both also improved on each of their last runs. But the order remained the same, with Alonso in a Red Bull sandwich and the trio covered by 0.317s . Lewis Hamilton ultimately got within 0.035s of Webber in his Mercedes. His team-mate Nico Rosberg will go into qualifying somewhat compromised as a technical problem limited him to only five laps in the session.
McLaren had an encouraging morning as Sergio Perez took fifth and Jenson Button eighth after a long top-five spell. Toro Rosso, which won at Monza with Vettel in 2008, also showed great promise as Red Bull-bound Daniel Ricciardo blasted in two rapid laps on his final run to earn sixth ahead of Massa. Pastor Maldonado put Williams in the top 10 in ninth, as Lotus slumped to 10th and 14th with Kimi Raikkonen and Romain Grosjean. Aside from di Resta's Parabolica accident, which he put down to a technical breakage on his Force India, there were also incidents at the Ascaris for Adrian Sutil and Jean-Eric Vergne. Both continued unscathed.

1. Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull Racing - 1:24.360 -
2. Fernando Alonso - Ferrari - 1:24.643 + 0.283
3. Mark Webber - Red Bull Racing - 1:24.677 + 0.317
4. Lewis Hamilton - Mercedes GP - 1:24.712 + 0.352
5. Sergio Perez - McLaren - 1:24.864 + 0.504
6. Daniel Ricciardo - Toro Rosso - 1:24.865 + 0.505
7. Felipe Massa - Ferrari - 1:24.995 + 0.635
8. Jenson Button - McLaren - 1:25.103 + 0.743
9. Pastor Maldonado - Williams - 1:25.116 + 0.756
10. Kimi Räikkönen - Lotus - 1:25.120 + 0.760
11. Jean-Eric Vergne - Toro Rosso - 1:25.136 + 0.776
12. Nico Hulkenberg - Sauber - 1:25.273 + 0.913
13. Esteban Gutierrez - Sauber - 1:25.324 + 0.964
14. Romain Grosjean - Lotus - 1:25.499 + 1.139
15. Valtteri Bottas - Williams - 1:25.660 + 1.300
16. Adrian Sutil - Force India - 1:25.702 + 1.342
17. Paul di Resta - Force India - 1:26.120 + 1.760
18. Charles Pic - Caterham - 1:26.607 + 2.247
19. Giedo van der Garde - Caterham - 1:27.172 + 2.812
20. Jules Bianchi - Marussia F1 Team - 1:27.605 + 3.245
21. Max Chilton - Marussia F1 Team - 1:27.665 + 3.305
22. Nico Rosberg - Mercedes GP - 1:27.822 + 3.462

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

At 14.00u CET this afternoon it's Qulifying time !!!

The Result of the 2nd practice session of today :

Vettel flies in second Monza practice :
Sebastian Vettel claimed first place in second practice for the Italian Grand Prix by a commanding 0.6-second margin in his Red Bull.
The world champion was barely headed during the session, pulling clear of his rivals with an early 1m24.7s lap before improving to his final benchmark 1m24.453s after half an hour. Vettel's long-run times also proved comfortably quicker than the pack in the latter half of the session. Underlining Red Bull's ominous form, Mark Webber completed a one-two in the second car. The times were much closer in Webber's region, though, as Lotus pair Kimi Raikkonen and Romain Grosjean were equal on 1m25.116s just 0.040s behind. Their identical times came despite Raikkonen using the upgraded long-wheelbase version of the car while Grosjean remained in the standard specification Lotus. Fernando Alonso was fifth in the best of the Ferraris. Like Grosjean, the Spaniard had a brief trip through the gravel during the session. Felipe Massa put the second Ferrari eighth behind Mercedes duo Lewis Hamilton and Nico Rosberg, but had to park in the pits early with a gearbox issue. The McLarens of Jenson Button and Sergio Perez filled the final top-10 places.

1. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing - 1:24.453 -
2. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing - 1:25.076 + 0.623
3. Romain Grosjean : Lotus - 1:25.116 + 0.663
4. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus - 1:25.116 + 0.663
5. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari - 1:25.330 + 0.877
6. Lewis Hamilton : Mercedes GP - 1:25.340 + 0.887
7. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP - 1:25.367 + 0.914
8. Felipe Massa : Ferrari - 1:25.519 + 1.066
9. Jenson Button : McLaren - 1:25.532 + 1.079
10. Sergio Perez : McLaren - 1:25.627 + 1.174
11. Paul di Resta : Force India - 1:25.830 + 1.377
12. Esteban Gutierrez : Sauber - 1:25.888 + 1.435
13. Adrian Sutil : Force India - 1:26.028 + 1.575
14. Pastor Maldonado : Williams - 1:26.138 + 1.685
15. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso - 1:26.224 + 1.771
16. Nico Hulkenberg : Sauber - 1:26.385 + 1.932
17. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso - 1:26.599 + 2.146
18. Valtteri Bottas : Williams - 1:27.198 + 2.745
19. Max Chilton : Marussia F1 Team - 1:27.548 + 3.095
20. Charles Pic : Caterham - 1:27.696 + 3.243
21. Giedo van der Garde : Caterham - 1:27.771 + 3.318
22. Jules Bianchi : Marussia F1 Team - 1:28.057 + 3.604

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

Ps : tomorrow from 11.00u CET - 12.00u CET is the 3rd practice session , followed at 14.00u with the Qualifying