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07.07.2013, 16:29

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The result of the German F1 Grand Prix :

Sebastian Vettel resists Kimi Raikkonen for home win :
Sebastian Vettel finally won his home grand prix in Germany as he resisted big pressure from Lotus's Kimi Raikkonen and Romain Grosjean at the Nurburgring. As the Lotus duo took turns to hound Vettel for most of the race, it looked unlikely that the Red Bull driver would be able to cling on for victory, but he ultimately managed to after a dogged drive. Polesitter Lewis Hamilton's Mercedes was swamped by the faster-starting Red Bulls off the line, as Vettel and Mark Webber moved into an immediate one-two.
Webber stayed right with his team-mate until the first pitstops, when he was sent out before his right-rear wheel was fully attached.
The tyre shot off and hit a television cameraman further down the pitlane. The cameraman was taken to hospital for observation.
Hamilton lost ground with heavy tyre wear as the race progressed, but Lotus moved in the opposite direction. Grosjean ran 13 laps on softs in his first stint - far better than anyone else managed - and that jumped him from fifth to second. The Frenchman then chased Vettel down, though he could not get closer than two seconds behind. A safety car just mid-distance closed things up and brought Raikkonen from 12s down into contention. The caution period was required after Jules Bianchi's Marussia retired in a cloud of smoke and flames, and then began drifting back across the circuit on the chicane approach after its driver had got out. The leaders made their second stops behind the safety car but could not make it from there to the end. Grosjean was first to pit, with Vettel reacting on the next lap and staying ahead. Raikkonen ran 10 laps further then pitted for softs, allowing him to charge back past Grosjean (who obeyed a team order to not delay the Finn) and then catch Vettel. But the world champion had just enough in hand to hang on and win by a second. Grosjean resisted a similar late surge from Fernando Alonso to keep third. Alonso's Ferrari team-mate Felipe Massa spun out at the first corner just four laps in while running sixth. Hamilton ended up fifth, passing two-stopper Jenson Button's McLaren on the last lap. Webber was brought back to the Red Bull garage and given a new wheel, then recovered from a distant last to seventh, just ahead of McLaren's Sergio Perez. Nico Rosberg could make little progress from 11th on the grid and finished ninth ahead of countryman Nico Hulkenberg's Sauber. Daniel Ricciardo faded from sixth in qualifying to 12th, between the Force Indias.
Williams appeared to have a shot at points for a while, before pitstop delays hampered both its drivers.

1. Sebastian Vettel :Red Bull Racing
2. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus
3. Romain Grosjean : Lotus

4. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari
5. Lewis Hamilton : Mercedes GP
6. Jenson Button : McLaren
7. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing
8. Sergio Perez : McLaren
9. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP
10. Nico Hulkenberg : Sauber
11. Paul di Resta : Force India
12. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso
13. Adrian Sutil : Force India
14. Esteban Gutierrez : Sauber
15. Pastor Maldonado : Williams
16. Valtteri Bottas : Williams + 1 lap
17. Charles Pic : Caterham + 1 lap
18. Giedo van der Garde : Caterham + 1 lap
19. Max Chilton : Marussia F1 Team + 1 lap
Did Not Finish :
20. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso
21. Jules Bianchi : Marussia F1 Team
22. Felipe Massa : Ferrari

Fastest lap : Fernando Alonso : 1:33.468
Pitstop Felipe Massa : DNF
Bat.2 Teams : Kimi Raikkonen > Mark Webber
Grid Position Pastor Maldonado : 15th place

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Shaky-Schumi

07.07.2013, 16:20

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TV cameraman hospitalised after Red Bull wheel incident :
A Formula 1 cameraman has been taken to hospital following an accident with Mark Webber's Red Bull in the pitlane during the German Grand Prix. Paul Allen was hit on the left hand side by a wheel that had flown off Webber's car during a botched pitstop.
Allen was conscious throughout the accident and transferred immediately to the Nurburgring circuit's medical centre.
A statement issued by the FIA said: "He was treated at the circuit medical centre and then transported by helicopter to Koblenz Hospital.
"The Briton has been kept there, under observation. Further information from the hospital will be provided as soon as it becomes available."

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Shaky-Schumi

06.07.2013, 15:33

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Here's the result of the Qualifying for the German GP :

Lewis Hamilton denies Sebastian Vettel pole :
Lewis Hamilton beat Sebastian Vettel in the German Grand Prix pole fight, as his Mercedes team-mate Nico Rosberg did not even make Q3. In a close fight at the end of the session, Hamilton produced a 1m29.398s to beat Vettel's Red Bull to the top spot by 0.103 seconds. Hamilton had held provisional pole on a 1m29.540s after the first Q3 runs, with Vettel going 0.039s quicker before the Mercedes responded and beat him. Mercedes appeared to make a simple miscalculation with Rosberg, believing his early Q2 time - good enough for second when it was set - would be sufficient. But the second half of the field was shaken right up when nearly everyone improved in final seconds, and as the likes of Jenson Button, Daniel Ricciardo and Nico Hulkenberg squeezed into the top 10, Rosberg was pushed out. Mark Webber put the second Red Bull third, ahead of Lotus pair Kimi Raikkonen and Romain Grosjean.
Ricciardo - whose Toro Rosso team-mate Jean-Eric Vergne was only 16th - continued his excellent qualifying form with sixth.
Ferrari opted out of the pole fight. Felipe Massa and Fernando Alonso ran medium tyres in Q3 rather than the faster softs and ended up on row four. McLaren's Button followed the same tactic in ninth and did not do a Q3 flying lap. Hulkenberg reached Q3 for Sauber and followed suit. Neither Force India reached Q2, with Paul di Resta 12th and Adrian Sutil a very disappointing 15th at home.
Sergio Perez looked in danger of getting knocked out in Q1 at one stage, so his eventual 13th place was not as bad as it might have been. His McLaren will share row seven with compatriot Esteban Gutierrez's Sauber. Williams joined Caterham and Marussia in the bottom six.

1. Lewis Hamilton : Mercedes GP - 1:29.398 -
2. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing - 1:29.501 + 0.103
3. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing - 1:29.608 + 0.210
4. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus - 1:29.892 + 0.494
5. Romain Grosjean : Lotus - 1:29.959 + 0.561
6. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso - 1:30.528 + 1.130
7. Felipe Massa : Ferrari - 1:31.126 + 1.728
8. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari - 1:31.209 + 1.811
9. Jenson Button : McLaren -not time -
10. Nico Hulkenberg : Sauber - no time -
Q2
11. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP - 1:30.326 + 0.928
12. Paul di Resta : Force India - 1:30.697 + 1.299
13. Sergio Perez : McLaren - 1:30.933 + 1.535
14. Esteban Gutierrez : Sauber - 1:31.010 + 1.612
15. Adrian Sutil : Force India - 1:31.010 + 1.612
16. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso - 1:31.104 + 1.706
17. Valtteri Bottas : Williams - 1:31.693 + 2.295
Q1
18. Pastor Maldonado : Williams - 1:31.707 -
19. Charles Pic : Caterham - 1:32.937 + 3.539
20. Jules Bianchi : Marussia F1 Team - 1:33.063 + 3.665
21. Giedo van der Garde : Caterham - 1:33.734 + 4.336
22. Max Chilton : Marussia F1 Team - 1:34.098 + 4.700

Qual : 1:29.398
Pole : Lewis Hamilton
Team Bat . : Lewis Hamilton > Nico Rosberg
Grid Pos. Romain Grosjean : 5th place

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Shaky-Schumi

06.07.2013, 12:27

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The result of the 3rd practice session :

Sebastian Vettel blitzes final practice for Red Bull :
Sebastian Vettel blasted to a dominant fastest time in final practice at the German Grand Prix, overshadowing countryman Nico Rosberg. The two Germans had topped a practice session each on Friday, but it was Vettel's Red Bull that took charge on Saturday morning. Vettel was quickest in the first part of the session on the harder rubber, before being swiftly demoted in the final 10 minutes as the softs offered time gains as big as two seconds for some cars. Fernando Alonso's Ferrari was first to reap the benefits, with Rosberg's Mercedes then doing a 1m30.193s going into the final minute to take the top spot. But Vettel still had a lap to come, and a 1m29.517s on softs blew Rosberg's time away by 0.676 seconds. Mark Webber was third in the second Red Bull, ahead of the two Ferraris, as Felipe Massa closed to within 0.018s of Alonso. Kimi Raikkonen and Romain Grosjean were back in sixth and eighth for Lotus, sandwiching an unhappy Lewis Hamilton, who made his dislike of his Mercedes' behaviour clear over team order.
Nico Hulkenberg and Adrian Sutil made it four Germans in the top 10 as they took ninth and 10th for Sauber and Force India respectively. Pastor Maldonado's Williams was repaired from its morning KERS issue in time to join the session from the beginning, although he was another to voice complaints over car handling by radio. He was 17th. After his Friday illness, Jules Bianchi returned to the Marussia cockpit and was 20th quickest.

1. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing - 1:29.517 -
2. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP - 1:30.193 + 0.676
3. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing - 1:30.211 + 0.694
4. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari - 1:30.621 + 1.104
5. Felipe Massa : Ferrari - 1:30.639 + 1.122
6. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus - 1:30.671 + 1.154
7. Lewis Hamilton : Mercedes GP - 1:30.744 + 1.227
8. Romain Grosjean : Lotus - 1:30.781 + 1.264
9. Nico Hulkenberg : Sauber - 1:30.966 + 1.449
10. Adrian Sutil : Force India - 1:31.009 + 1.492
11. Jenson Button : McLaren - 1:31.326 + 1.809
12. Esteban Gutierrez : Sauber - 1:31.405 + 1.888
13. Paul di Resta : Force India - 1:31.733 + 2.216
14. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso - 1:31.855 + 2.338
15. Sergio Perez : McLaren - 1:31.855 + 2.338
16. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso - 1:31.898 + 2.381
17. Pastor Maldonado : Williams - 1:31.969 + 2.452
18. Valtteri Bottas : Williams - 1:32.036 + 2.519
19. Charles Pic : Caterham - 1:33.230 + 3.713
20. Jules Bianchi : Marussia F1 Team - 1:33.470 + 3.953
21. Giedo van der Garde : Caterham - 1:33.964 + 4.447
22. Max Chilton : Marussia F1 Team - 1:34.683 + 5.166

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Shaky-Schumi

05.07.2013, 19:54

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The result of the 2nd practice session :

Vettel puts Red Bull on top in second practice :
Sebastian Vettel moved Red Bull to the top of the timesheets in second practice for the German Grand Prix at the Nurburgring.
The German seized control of the session on his first soft-tyre run, working his way down to a 1m30.416s that would stand for the remainder of the session. Team-mate Mark Webber, on pole here in 2009 and '11, had been fastest in the early medium-compound running and again when the field first switched to softs. He was bumped down however, first by Vettel and then by the Mercedes of Nico Rosberg, who got to within a quarter of a second of Vettel's time. Webber did put it one of the stronger long-run stints, managing over 20 laps on mediums and at times gaining almost two seconds on the soft-shod Vettel. Free practice one pacesetter Lewis Hamilton did not match team-mate Rosberg's improvement on the option tyre, and while he initially slotted into fourth he was gradually eased down to eighth as Lotus' and Ferrari's drivers improved. Romain Grosjean beat Kimi Raikkonen to fourth by just five thousandths of a second, while Fernando Alonso - now free of the electrical gremlins which dogged him in first practice - shaded Massa by an even smaller margin in the fight for sixth. Hamilton ended two tenths down the road in eighth, and as the final man to get within one second of the ultimate pace. Jenson Button was next up, fractions ahead of Force India duo Paul di Resta and Adrian Sutil, the latter of whom lost time in the garage following a wild exit at the final turn. The order below was largely grouped into teams, with Sergio Perez in 14th the only exception as Toro Rosso shaded Sauber, Williams, Caterham and Marussia. Valtteri Bottas and Pastor Maldonado staged the closest of the inter-team fights, with the Finn edging out his stable-mate by just one thousandth of a second in what was a fight for 17th. Jules Bianchi, back at Marussia in place of free practice one stand-in Rodolfo Gonzalez, sat out the final 30 minutes of running due to illness.

1. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing - 1:30.416 -
2. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP - 1:30.651 + 0.235
3. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing - 1:30.683 + 0.267
4. Romain Grosjean : Lotus - 1:30.843 + 0.427
5. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus - 1:30.848 + 0.432
6. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari - 1:31.056 + 0.640
7. Felipe Massa : Ferrari - 1:31.059 + 0.643
8. Lewis Hamilton : Mercedes GP - 1:31.304 + 0.888
9. Jenson Button : McLaren - 1:31.568 + 1.152
10. Paul di Resta : Force India - 1:31.797 + 1.381
11. Adrian Sutil : Force India - 1:31.824 + 1.408
12. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso - 1:31.855 + 1.439
13. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso - 1:32.055 + 1.639
14. Sergio Perez : McLaren -1:32.086 + 1.670
15. Nico Hulkenberg : Sauber - 1:32.495 + 2.079
16. Esteban Gutierrez : Sauber - 1:32.762 + 2.346
17. Valtteri Bottas : Williams - 1:32.879 + 2.463
18. Pastor Maldonado : Williams - 1:32.880 + 2.464
19. Charles Pic : Caterham - 1:33.695 + 3.279
20. Giedo van der Garde : Caterham - 1:33.804 + 3.388
21. Jules Bianchi : Marussia F1 Team - 1:34.017 + 3.601
22. Max Chilton : Marussia F1 Team - 1:34.667 + 4.251

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Shaky-Schumi

05.07.2013, 19:47

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The result of the 1st practice session :

Lewis Hamilton leads Nico Rosberg in first practice :
Lewis Hamilton edged out team-mate Nico Rosberg as Mercedes took command of the first German Grand Prix practice session.
The Briton finished more than one second clear of the entire field bar Rosberg, with whom he traded fastest laps as the Brackley-based squad hit the front at the halfway stage. Hamilton eventually settled the fight with a 1m31.754s which put him two tenths clear of Rosberg, victorious last time out at Silverstone. Red Bull's Mark Webber prevailed in what was a much tighter fight for third, eclipsing the lead Force India of Adrian Sutil by just 0.033s. Kimi Raikkonen, Felipe Massa and Jenson Button all got within four tenths of Webber's time. Despite Massa's pace it was an unhappy session for Ferrari however, as Fernando Alonso failed to complete a lap due to electrical issues. The Spaniard lost power and abandoned his car just four minutes into the session, and then suffered an almost identical failure 40 minutes later on what was his second attempt at a first installation lap. This time he was at least able to revive the car and return to the pits, but was unable to return and ended the session with just two aborted laps under his belt. Sebastian Vettel, Alonso's chief championship rival, ended the session in eighth ahead of Romain Grosjean, who slipped in front of Sergio Perez and Paul di Resta as the chequered flag fell.

1. Lewis Hamilton : Mercedes GP - 1:31.754 -
2. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP - 1:31.974 + 0.220
3. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing - 1:32.789 + 1.035
4. Adrian Sutil : Force India - 1:32.822 + 1.068
5. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus - 1:32.956 + 1.202
6. Felipe Massa : Ferrari - 1:33.065 + 1.311
7. Jenson Button : McLaren - 1:33.139 + 1.385
8. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing - 1:33.213 + 1.459
9. Romain Grosjean : Lotus - 1:33.260 + 1.506
10. Sergio Perez : McLaren - 1:33.456 + 1.702
11. Paul di Resta : Force India - 1:33.493 + 1.739
12. Nico Hulkenberg : Sauber -1:33.810 + 2.056
13. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso - 1:33.901 + 2.147
14. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso - 1:33.976 + 2.222
15. Pastor Maldonado : Williams - 1:34.025 + 2.271
16. Valtteri Bottas : Williams - 1:34.200 + 2.446
17. Esteban Gutierrez : Sauber - 1:34.437 + 2.683
18. Charles Pic : Caterham - 1:35.674 + 3.920
19. Max Chilton : Marussia F1 Team - 1:35.987 + 4.233
20. Giedo van der Garde : Caterham - 1:36.078 + 4.324
21. Rodolfo Gonzalez : Marussia F1 Team - 1:37.459 + 5.705
22. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari -no time -

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Shaky-Schumi

04.07.2013, 20:56

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The German Grand Prix (Großer Preis von Deutschland) – it will be the 59° edition (in the past 33 Hockenheim, 25 Nurburgring and 1 Avus)
only one week after the British Grand Prix, you run the GP of Germany, which this year takes place at the Nurburgring. The modern circuit called GP-Strecke is adjacent to the old race track, but completely different and worse than the legendary old circuit called Nordschleife(northern loop) used until the accident of Niki Lauda on 1 August 1976 when his Ferrari caught fire. On the old Nurburgring, nicknamed "The Green Hell” by Jacky Stewart, were held memorable races(1935: Nuvolari won against the powerful Mercedes and Auto Union driving his outdated Alfa Romeo P3 and in 1957 the greatest victory of Jaun Manuel Fangio is the stuff of legend. The Nordschleife was more than 22 km long and with 174 curves ran between the dark green trees of the Eifel mountains; but was abandoned for safety reason and television market. Perhaps not everyone knows but the Nordschleife is open to the public This means that anyone can pay the ticket and drive on this mytical circuit with a road car or motorcycle. The modern Nürburgring circuit, built in 1984, is characterised by medium speed levels and a mix of slow and fast corners. There are many ups and downs but the surface is not too abrasive and tyre wear is not high. Tyre: medium compound(white stripe)and soft compound(yellow stripe). After what happened last week at Silverstone Pirelli has announced some changes for this race and others, more important for the next GP in Budapest. Also FIA has thus taken the decision to alter the Young Driver Test, scheduled for July 17-19 at Silverstone to allow teams to use race drivers(only for one day) for tyre development work in a bid to solve the problems. it is clear that the only purpose is to test tyres for Pirelli. The Mercedes AMG F1 Team will not participate in this test, following the recent decision of the International Tribunal.
Winners, podium and pole position (last 3 editions)
2010 Hockenheim, 1° Alonso – Ferrari (2° Massa and 3°Vettel) – fastest lap: Vettel – pole: Vettel
2012 Hockenheim, 1° Alonso – Ferrari (2° Button and 3° Raikkonen) – fastest lap: Schumacher – pole: Alonso,
so the only recent statistics about Nurburgring are from two years ago
2011 Hamilton – Mc Laren (2° Alonso and 3° Webber) - fastest lap: Hamilton – pole: Webber, time 1m 30.079
Two DRS zones will be used: the first on the main straight and the second from turn 11 to the NGK Chicane

04.07.2013, 11:52

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f1 memories
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30/04/1994 roland ratzenberger f1 driver
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02.07.2013, 19:56

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News :

Pirelli, explanation on Silverstone’ facts and next races :
A SERIES OF DIFFERENT CAUSES LED TO THE TYRE FAILURES AT SILVERSTONE: REAR TYRES MOUNTED THE WRONG WAY ROUND, LOW TYRE PRESSURES, EXTREME CAMBERS AND HIGH KERBS . THE 2013 TYRES DO NOT COMPROMISE SAFETY IF USED IN THE CORRECT WAY .TO DEVELOP AND MANAGE SOPHISTICATED TYRES SUCH AS THOSE USED IN 2013, IT IS ESSENTIAL TO HAVE ACCESS TO REAL TIME TYRE OPERATING DATA. CHANGE IN THE RULES HAS BEEN REQUESTED . ARRANGED WITH FIA WINTER TEST AND DURING THE SEASON FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE TYRES
THE KEVLAR BELT REAR TYRES TESTED IN FREE PRACTICE IN CANADA WILL BE USED IN GERMANY .
FROM HUNGARY THERE WILL BE A NEW RANGE OF TYRES, WHICH COMBINES THE 2012 STRUCTURES WITH THE 2013 COMPOUNDS. THESE WILL BE TESTED AT SILVERSTONE, USING THE RACE DRIVERS AND 2013 CARS, DURING THE YOUNG DRIVER TEST PAUL HEMBERY: “WHAT HAPPENED AT SILVERSTONE UPSETS US. WITH THESE SOPHISTICATED TYRES IT’S VITAL FOR US TO SEE DATA SUCH AS TEMPERATURE, PRESSURES AND CAMBER. WHILE WAITING FOR A REVISION TO THE RULES, WE WILL SUPPLY TYRES THAT ARE EASIER TO MANAGE.”

Milan, July 2, 2013 – After exhaustive analysis of the tyres used at Silverstone, Pirelli has concluded that the causes of the failures were principally down to a combination of the following factors:

1) Rear tyres that were mounted the wrong way round: in other words, the right hand tyre being placed where the left hand one should be and vice versa, on the cars that suffered failures. The tyres supplied this year have an asymmetric structure, which means that they are not designed to be interchangeable. The sidewalls are designed in such a way to deal with specific loads on the internal and external sides of the tyre. So swapping the tyres round has an effect on how they work in certain conditions. In particular, the external part is designed to cope with the very high loads that are generated while cornering at a circuit as demanding as Silverstone, with its rapid left-hand bends and some kerbs that are particularly aggressive.

2) The use of tyre pressures that were excessively low or in any case lower than those indicated by Pirelli. Under-inflating the tyres means that the tyre is subjected to more stressful working conditions.

3) The use of extreme camber angles.

4) Kerbing that was particularly aggressive on fast corners, such as that on turn four at Silverstone, which was the scene of most of the failures. Consequently it was the left-rear tyres that were affected.

The only problems that had come to light before Silverstone were to do with delamination, which was a completely different phenomenon. To stop these delaminations Pirelli found a solution by suggesting that the teams use the tyres that were tried out in Canada from Silverstone onwards. When this proposal was not accepted, Pirelli found another solution through laboratory testing, with a different bonding process to attach the tread to the carcass. So the problem of delamination has nothing at all to do with what was seen in Great Britain.

Following the conclusions of this analysis, Pirelli would like to underline that:

1) Mounting the tyres the wrong way round is a practice that was nonetheless underestimated by everybody: above all Pirelli, which did not forbid this.

2) In the same way, under-inflation of the tyres and extreme camber settings, over which Pirelli has no control, are choices that can be dangerous under certain circumstances. Because of this, Pirelli has asked the FIA for these parameters will be a topic of accurate and future examinations. Pirelli has also asked for compliance with these rules to be checked by a dedicated delegate.

3) Pirelli would also like to underline that the 2013 tyre range does not compromise driver safety in any way if used in the correct manner, and that it meets all the safety standards requested by the FIA.

The logical conclusion is that it is essential for tyres with the performance and technical sophistication of the 2013 range to be regulated and carefully controlled by Pirelli itself. In order to ensure the optimal functioning of the tyres, the Italian firm would need real-time data from the teams regarding fundamental parameters such as pressure, temperature and camber angles. While waiting for new regulations that would permit Pirelli access to this data, vital for the development and management of these state-of-the-art tyres, the following measures are proposed for the forthcoming grands prix, in agreement with the FIA, FOM, the teams and the drivers:

1) The use of the evolution of the current tyre that was tested in Canada (and proved to be completely reliable) for the German Grand Prix this weekend. This represents the best match for the technical characteristics of the Nurburgring circuit. In particular, the rear tyres that will be used at the German Grand Prix, which takes place on July 7, have a Kevlar construction that replaces the current steel structure and the re-introduction of the 2012 belt, to ensure maximum stability and roadholding. Given that these tyres are asymmetric as well, it will be strictly forbidden to swap them round. The front tyres, by contrast, will remain unaltered.
2) From the Hungarian Grand Prix onwards, the introduction of a new range of tyres. The new tyres will have a symmetrical structure, designed to guarantee maximum safety even without access to tyre data – which however is essential for the optimal function of the more sophisticated 2013 tyres. The tyres that will be used for the Hungarian Grand Prix onwards will combine the characteristics of the 2012 tyres with the performance of the 2013 compounds. Essentially, the new tyres will have a structure, construction and belt identical to that of 2012, which ensured maximum performance and safety. The compounds will be the same as those used throughout 2013, which guaranteed faster lap times and a wider working range. This new specification, as agreed with the FIA, will be tested on-track together with the teams and their 2013 cars at Silverstone from 17-19 July in a session with the race drivers during the young driver test. These tests will contribute to the definitive development of the new range of tyres, giving teams the opportunity to carry out the appropriate set-up work on their cars.
Paul Hembery, Pirelli’s motorsport director, said: “What happened at Silverstone was completely unexpected and it was the first time that anything like this has ever occurred in more than a century of Pirelli in motorsport. These incidents, which have upset us greatly, have stressed the urgency of the changes that we already suggested – which will be introduced during for free practice in Germany on Friday. We would like to acknowledge the willingness of the FIA, FOM teams, and drivers to act quickly to find an immediate solution to the problem. In particular, the adoption of winter tests, arranged with the FIA, that are more suitable for tyre development and the possibility of carrying out in-season testing will contribute to the realisation of tyres with increasingly improved standards of safety and performance. I’d like to re-emphasise the fact that the 2013 range of tyres, used in the correct way, is completely safe. What happened at Silverstone though has led us to ask for full access to real time tyre data to ensure the correct usage and development of tyres that have the sophistication we were asked to provide and extremely high performance that has lowered lap times by more than two seconds on average. While we wait for a change in the rules, we will introduce tyres that are easier to manage.”

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Shaky-Schumi

Ps: Sorry for the capital letters in the beginning of the post Confused Blush !!!

30.06.2013, 19:48

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FORMULA 1 GROSSER PREIS SANTANDER VON DEUTSCHLAND 2013
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Fri 05 July 2013
Practice 1 10:00 - 11:30
Practice 2 14:00 - 15:30
Sat 06 July 2013
Practice 3 11:00 - 12:00
Qualifying 14:00
Sun 07 July 2013
Race 14:00

30.06.2013, 19:46

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constructors standings
1 Red Bull Racing-Renault 219
2 Mercedes 171
3 Ferrari 168
4 Lotus-Renault 124
5 Force India-Mercedes 59
6 McLaren-Mercedes 37
7 STR-Ferrari 24
8 Sauber-Ferrari 6
9 Williams-Renault 0
10 Marussia-Cosworth 0
11 Caterham-Renault 0

30.06.2013, 19:45

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drivers standings
1 Sebastian Vettel German Red Bull Racing-Renault 132
2 Fernando Alonso Spanish Ferrari 111
3 Kimi Räikkönen Finnish Lotus-Renault 98
4 Lewis Hamilton British Mercedes 89
5 Mark Webber Australian Red Bull Racing-Renault 87
6 Nico Rosberg German Mercedes 82
7 Felipe Massa Brazilian Ferrari 57
8 Paul di Resta British Force India-Mercedes 36
9 Romain Grosjean French Lotus-Renault 26
10 Jenson Button British McLaren-Mercedes 25
11 Adrian Sutil German Force India-Mercedes 23
12 Jean-Eric Vergne French STR-Ferrari 13
13 Sergio Perez Mexican McLaren-Mercedes 12
14 Daniel Ricciardo Australian STR-Ferrari 11
15 Nico Hulkenberg German Sauber-Ferrari 6
16 Pastor Maldonado Venezuelan Williams-Renault 0
17 Valtteri Bottas Finnish Williams-Renault 0
18 Esteban Gutierrez Mexican Sauber-Ferrari 0
19 Jules Bianchi French Marussia-Cosworth 0
20 Charles Pic French Caterham-Renault 0
21 Max Chilton British Marussia-Cosworth 0
22 Giedo van der Garde Dutch Caterham-Renault 0

30.06.2013, 19:42

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30.06.2013, 16:48

Re: Formula 1 General Chat & Discussion

The result of the British Grand Prix :

Rosberg wins chaotic race amid tyre drama :
Nico Rosberg fended off Mark Webber to win a thrilling British Grand Prix littered with tyre blow-outs and featuring a late retirement for championship leader Sebastian Vettel. Rosberg's Mercedes team-mate Lewis Hamilton was leading until he became the first man to suffer a tyre blow, with Vettel then controlling the race until his Red Bull lost drive in the closing stages. That set up a thrilling finale as Vettel's team-mate Webber, who had fallen to 15th on lap one, hunted down Rosberg, while Fernando Alonso and the recovering Hamilton charged past Kimi Raikkonen into third and fourth. Hamilton had established a two-second lead over Vettel, who jumped Rosberg off the line, by lap seven, when his left rear tyre blew going down the Wellington straight.
That was followed soon after by a seemingly identical failure for Felipe Massa. The Ferrari driver had thrust from 11th on the grid to fifth at the start and was pushing Adrian Sutil for third when his tyre gave well while accelerating out of the The Loop.
When Jean-Eric Vergne's left rear tyre also exploded on the approach to Stowe, the safety car came out for seven laps, with engineers urging their drivers to avoid the kerbs. Vettel kept Rosberg at arm's length once the race restarted. Sutil ran third until leaving his second pitstop too late and being jumped by Raikkonen, Alonso and Webber. The Australian was on a charge from 15th after a slow start and a first-corner brush with Romain Grosjean, and overtook Alonso going into the closing stages.
Just as the result seemed settled, Vettel ground to a halt on the pits straight with a loss of drive.
With the stranded Red Bull prompting a safety car, Rosberg dived in for a third tyre stop and rejoined still ahead of Raikkonen. Webber and Alonso also went for tyres and dropped to fifth and eighth, elevating Sutil and Daniel Ricciardo to third and fourth.
Webber made sublime use of his fresh tyres to quickly pick off Ricciardo and Sutil, then battle past Raikkonen.
By the final lap the Red Bull was within a second of Rosberg, who held on to win by seven tenths of a second.
Alonso also made rapid progress on his new rubber, dodging the McLaren of Sergio Perez as it became yet another tyre-blow victim, then fighting through to third. The recovering Hamilton followed through, demoting Raikkonen - who had questioned Lotus's decision not to pit under the late safety car - to fifth. Massa climbed back to sixth after his puncture, with Sutil and Ricciardo pushed back to seventh and eighth ahead of Paul di Resta (from the back of the grid) and Nico Hulkenberg. Jenson Button had been on course for points for McLaren until the final laps, when he was elbowed down to 13th.

1. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP
2. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing
3. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari

4. Lewis Hamilton : Mercedes GP
5. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus
6. Felipe Massa : Ferrari
7. Adrian Sutil : Force India
8. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso
9. Paul di Resta : Force India

10. Nico Hulkenberg : Sauber
11. Pastor Maldonado : Williams
12. Valtteri Bottas : Williams
13. Jenson Button : McLaren
14. Esteban Gutierrez : Sauber
15. Charles Pic : Caterham 2
16. Jules Bianchi : Marussia F1 Team
17. Max Chilton : Marussia F1 Team
18. Giedo van der Garde : Caterham
Did Not Finish
19. Romain Grosjean : Lotus
20. Sergio Perez : McLaren
21. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing 1
22. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso

Fastest Lap : Mark Webber - 1:33.401
Pitstop Kimi Raikkonen : : 2
Bat.2 Teams : Daniel Ricciardo > Paul di Resta
Grid.Pos. Jenson Button : 13th place

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

30.06.2013, 14:53

Re: Formula 1 General Chat & Discussion

kyke50 wrote:What happens with the tires?
They have already burst three.
It seems that Pirelli is going to have problems to explain it.

At this moment they are thinking its cutting turn 4, that is doing the damage but, this is 4 in 2 days with the same issue.

Most or all drivers have been instructed to keep away from the curbs, there racers and curbs are straight lines Confused lets just hope this ssue is sorted and no more blowouts, lucky so far of no driver as been hurt.

ADDED: the teams have upped the tire pressure to try to stop punctures.