Formula 1 General Chat & Discussion

after monaco gp
1 Fernando Alonso Spanish Ferrari 76
2 Sebastian Vettel German Red Bull Racing-Renault 73
3 Mark Webber Australian Red Bull Racing-Renault 73
4 Lewis Hamilton British McLaren-Mercedes 63
5 Nico Rosberg German Mercedes 59
6 Kimi Räikkönen Finnish Lotus-Renault 51
7 Jenson Button British McLaren-Mercedes 45
8 Romain Grosjean French Lotus-Renault 35
9 Pastor Maldonado Venezuelan Williams-Renault 29
10 Sergio Perez Mexican Sauber-Ferrari 22
11 Paul di Resta British Force India-Mercedes 21
12 Kamui Kobayashi Japanese Sauber-Ferrari 19
13 Bruno Senna Brazilian Williams-Renault 15
14 Felipe Massa Brazilian Ferrari 10
15 Nico Hulkenberg German Force India-Mercedes 7
16 Jean-Eric Vergne French STR-Ferrari 4
17 Daniel Ricciardo Australian STR-Ferrari 2
18 Michael Schumacher German Mercedes 2
19 Heikki Kovalainen Finnish Caterham-Renault 0
20 Timo Glock German Marussia-Cosworth 0
21 Charles Pic French Marussia-Cosworth 0
22 Narain Karthikeyan Indian HRT-Cosworth 0
23 Vitaly Petrov Russian Caterham-Renault 0
24 Pedro de la Rosa Spanish HRT-Cosworth 0

1 Red Bull Racing-Renault 146
2 McLaren-Mercedes 108
3 Ferrari 86
4 Lotus-Renault 86
5 Mercedes 61
6 Williams-Renault 44
7 Sauber-Ferrari 41
8 Force India-Mercedes 28
9 STR-Ferrari 6
10 Caterham-Renault 0
11 Marussia-Cosworth 0
12 HRT-Cosworth 0

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Fri 08 June 2012
Practice 1 10:00 - 11:30
Practice 2 14:00 - 15:30
Sat 09 June 2012
Practice 3 10:00 - 11:00
Qualifying 13:00
Sun 10 June 2012
Race 14:00

I only add to the contribution from dazaman ( Thank You dazaman )that the Fastest Lap was driven by Sergio Perez -1:17.296 . Pitstop Nico Rosberg : 2 ,and that there where 10 drivers in the same lap !


And again a problem with Schumi's car , 1st the contact with Grosjean ...this costed him allready 2 places and than the technical problem ....when will this end ? I want to see Schumi finaly on the highest place ...and that's the nr.1 place on the podium !!!!! Dito with Massa ,finaly a good drive and result ( 6th ) , so i hope that this can be a turn around for him

Ps : i found that it was a boring race ...except the 1st couple of laps and than the last 10 laps ...but for the rest it was


Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

I Congratulate Webber! A miracle has happened! Alonso and Vettel - perfect tactics pit stop! Schumacher - a series of misfortunes continues! 6 races - 6 winners (absolute record! ) What will happen next? Famously twisted plot!

Barring any late penalties to the drivers who finished heres the result for the Monaco grand prix

1. Webber
2. Rosberg
3. Alonso
4. Vettel
5. Hamilton
6. Massa
7. Di Resta
8. Hulkenberg
9. Raikkonen
10. Senna

11. Perez
12. Vergne
13. Kovalainen
14. Glock
15. Karthikeyan

16. Button DNF
17. Ricciardo DNF
18. Pic DNF
19. Schumacher DNF
20. Petrov DNF
21. Kobayashi DNF
22. De La Rosa DNF
23. Maldonado DNF
24. Grosjean DNF

Congratulations to Mark Webber for a great performance from pole

According to Kimi's radio communication there is rain expected in the next 20 minutes

In Monaco overtaking difficult! If not sanctions - I would put on SCHUMACHER! And so ....Do Weber or Hamilton?

Holy shiiiiiiiiiiiit !!!!!!
Let us hope that we wil not see this kind of thing tomorrow in F1 !!!!

This happend today in the GP3 class



Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

1st of all ...Congratulations Schumi WHOEHOEEEE ......bummer that he has bin penalyzed in Spain ...but still .. starting from 6th place is not that bad .....the Mercedes is always good in his starts !!! I have 100% convidence in Schumi ..aswel in Felipe ( A very very good lap in Q2 )and Alonso

And now the result from the qualifying just after the the checkerd flag has bin waved !!! :

1. Michael Schumacher : Mercedes GP : 1:14.301 -
2. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing : 1:14.381 + 0.080
3. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP : 1:14.448 + 0.147
4. Lewis Hamilton : McLaren : 1:14.583 + 0.282
5. Romain Grosjean : Lotus : 1:14.639 + 0.338
6. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari : 1:14.948 + 0.647
7. Felipe Massa : Ferrari : 1:15.049 + 0.748
8. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus : 1:15.199 + 0.898
9. Pastor Maldonado : Williams : 1:15.245 + 0.944
10. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull : no time -

Q2
11. Nico Hulkenberg : Force India : 1:15.421 + 1.120
12. Kamui Kobayashi : Sauber : 1:15.508 + 1.207
13. Jenson Button : McLaren : 1:15.536 + 1.235
14. Bruno Senna : Williams : 1:15.709 + 1.408
15. Paul di Resta : Force India : 1:15.718 + 1.417
16. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso : 1:15.878 + 1.577
17. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso : 1:16.885 + 2.584

Q1
18. Heikki Kovalainen : Caterham : 1:16.538 -
19. Vitaly Petrov : Caterham : 1:17.404 + 3.103
20. Timo Glock : Marussia F1 Team : 1:17.947 + 3.646
21. Pedro de la Rosa : HRT : 1:18.096 + 3.795
22. Charles Pic : Marussia F1 Team : 1:18.476 + 4.175
23. Narain Karthikeyan : HRT : 1:19.310 + 5.009
24. Sergio Perez : Sauber : no time


So for our game the pole result is this :

Oual :1:14.301
Pole : Schumi
Rain : no

After the 5 place penalty of Schumi and the 10 place penalty of Maldonado the top 10 is officialy this :

1.Webber
2.Rosberg
3.Hamilton
4.Grosjean
5.Alonso
6.Schumacher
7.Massa
8.Raikkonen
9.Vettel
10. Hulkenberg

Comment of the Qualification :
Michael Schumacher was fastest in Monaco Grand Prix qualifying, but Mark Webber will start from pole position due to the German's five-place grid penalty for crashing into Bruno Senna at Catalunya.
Schumacher vaulted his Mercedes from a provisional fifth on the grid after his first Q3 run to the top spot with a 1m14.301s at the end of the session. But the penalty for his Barcelona incident means he will not be able to claim the first pole position of his Formula 1 comeback, as instead Red Bull driver Webber - who was 0.08 seconds slower - will head the Monte Carlo grid for the second time in his F1 career. Schumacher's team-mate Nico Rosberg held provisional pole for most of Q3, before slipping to third, which will still be a front row position. Lewis Hamilton was fourth quickest for McLaren, ahead of Lotus's Romain Grosjean - who had looked like a pole threat until a poor middle sector on his last lap. Ferrari could not manage the pole challenge it had been tipped for, with Fernando Alonso and Felipe Massa sixth and seventh, ahead of Kimi Raikkonen in the second Lotus.
Spanish GP winner Pastor Maldonado made it to Q3 and was ninth, but his Williams will also be moved down the order due to the 10-place penalty for his incident with Sergio Perez in final practice. Red Bull's championship leader Sebastian Vettel did not run in Q3 despite making the cut.
For the second grand prix in succession, Jenson Button failed to get beyond Q2. The McLaren driver could not improve on the 1m15.536s lap that had put him back in 13th.
A year on from his dramatic accident at the chicane, Perez was in trouble in Monaco qualifying again as he slid into the Swimming Pool barriers - seemingly due to a mechanical issue - early in Q1. The Mexican tried to drag his damaged Sauber back to the pits but succeeded only in causing a red flag when he shed a wheel and had to park at Rascasse.
Perez's team-mate Kamui Kobayashi also had a brush with the wall, but continued intact and qualified 12th.
Toro Rosso's Jean-Eric Vergne was the other man to crash, losing control under braking for the chicane and clouting the barriers, causing wing and suspension damage. That left him 17th on the grid - but this was just one place behind team-mate Daniel Ricciardo. Neither Force India made Q3, with Nico Hulkenberg 11th and Paul di Resta 15th.
Senna again failed to match Williams team-mate Maldonado's pace and was only 14th. At the back, Heikki Kovalainen came within a tenth of getting his Caterham into Q2 and beat team-mate Vitaly Petrov by nearly a second.
HRT's Pedro de la Rosa was also impressive as he split the Marussias and was only a tenth off Timo Glock.

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

Finaly the King of the Road is back but the dammed Penalty! Pole in Monaco means so much I am so happy for Schumi okay he is On 6 now but the Race is long anything cant happen! GO SCHUMI GO!!!

SchuuuUUUUuuuuuummmmmiiiii !!!!!! After 12 years again the fastet !
But only 6..... What a F*ck !!!
Schumi and Ross Brawn the GREATEST ever !!!

Maldonado has been sanctioned and it will be delayed 10 positions.

I think this qualifying wil go between 3 Teams ...namely Ferrari,Lotus and Mercedes GP ...i can be totaly wrong ofcourse but i have this feeling ...ofcourse i hope in the end it will be Ferrari .I hope that every driver can do a fast lap without being held up by drivers who do a out lap or are going back to the pit specialy in Q3 ,so that the qualifying can be a thriller !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

Here are the results of the 3rd free practice session :

1. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP : 1:15.159 -
2. Felipe Massa : Ferrari : 1:15.197 + 0.038
3. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing : 1:15.209 + 0.050
4. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari : 1:15.210 + 0.051
5. Romain Grosjean : Lotus : 1:15.445 + 0.286
6. Jenson Button : McLaren : 1:15.471 + 0.312
7. Lewis Hamilton : McLaren : 1:15.734 + 0.575
8. Michael Schumacher : Mercedes GP : 1:15.893 + 0.734
9. Sergio Perez : Sauber : 1:16.110 + 0.951
10. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing : 1:16.219 + 1.060
11. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso : 1:16.226 + 1.067
12. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus : 1:16.301 + 1.142
13. Kamui Kobayashi : Sauber : 1:16.311 + 1.152
14. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso : 1:16.479 + 1.320
15. Nico Hulkenberg : Force India : 1:17.027 + 1.868
16. Bruno Senna : Williams : 1:17.055 + 1.896
17. Heikki Kovalainen : Caterham : 1:17.276 + 2.117
18. Paul di Resta : Force India : 1:17.390 + 2.231
19. Vitaly Petrov : Caterham : 1:17.404 + 2.245
20. Timo Glock : Marussia F1 Team : 1:18.259 + 3.100
21. Pastor Maldonado : Williams : 1:18.488 + 3.329
22. Charles Pic : Marussia F1 Team : 1:19.099 + 3.940
23. Narain Karthikeyan : HRT : 1:19.147 + 3.988
24. Pedro de la Rosa : HRT : 1:19.151 + 3.992

Comment of the 3rd session :

Nico Rosberg set the fastest time in the final free practice session for the Monaco Grand Prix, which was brought to a halt prematurely following an accident for Pastor Maldonado at Casino Square.

The Spanish Grand Prix winner appeared to be involved in an incident with Sergio Perez's Sauber on the lap before at Portier and then lost control of his Williams on the entrance to Casino Square. He lost his left rear wheel as the car went out of control, before parking the FW34 at Mirabeau with three minutes of the session remaining.
An impressive Felipe Massa was second fastest ahead of a late-improving Sebastian Vettel and Fernando Alonso in the second Ferrari.
Unsurprisingly there was a little more urgency about getting on with the business of working through set-up programmes at the start of this session, and none was more in a hurry to get on with it than Kimi Raikkonen. The Finn did not even bother with an installation lap and was the first to record a time - that of 1m18.993s.
That mark did not last long at the top of the times as the two Mercedes joined him and Rosberg moved to the top, just six hundredths faster. Force India's Paul di Resta had a brief moment in the sunshine just before quarter distance, but only until one of the stars of the weekend so far - Romain Grosjean - fired in a 1m16.812s.
The Frenchman, super confident in the switched on Lotus, worked that down to a 1m15.811s, and notably that remained the best time anyone did on the soft prime Pirelli tyre.
Just after half an hour Rosberg moved the mark forward with a super soft option lap of 1m15.751s. The Chinese Grand Prix winner then backed off for a lap before going even faster – the result a 1m15.159s. That would be enough to settle the argument.
Behind him Massa - looking much more secure in the cockpit of his Ferrari than of late - Alonso and Grosjean all also improved on the red-walled Pirellis. It was only in the last 10 minutes that Vettel, who had a sideways moment on the exit of the Swimming Pool on a previous lap, finally moved into third place in a Red Bull that does not look easy to use on the Monaco streets.
Behind this quintet, Jenson Button's best super soft effort could only net him sixth fastest ahead of his McLaren team-mate Lewis Hamilton, Michael Schumacher, Perez (whose best lap was baulked by Nico Hulkenberg) and Mark Webber, who completed the top 10. Raikkonen spent the session focusing on race set-up and was 12th quickest.
Maldonado's was not the only late session incident. Di Resta, who ended up 18th fastest, crashed into the barriers under braking for the chicane as the car snapped left over the bumps, but he was able to return to the pits under his own power with significant nose and front wing damage.
As for the Venezuelan, it remains to be seen whether he will be called to discuss his Perez incident with driver steward Nigel Mansell, which could cost him dearly on a track that is all about grid position.

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi