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the podium of the last three Hungary GP

2010
1. Mark Webber Red Bull- Renault
2. Fernando Alonso Ferrari
3 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull- Renault
fastest lap on race: Sebastian Vettel Red Bull- Renault

2009
1. Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes
2. Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari
3 Mark Webber Red Bull- Renault
fastest lap on race: Mark Webber Red Bull- Renault

2008
1. Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes
2. Timo Glock Toyota
3 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari
fastest lap on race: Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari

Formula One has taken place at the Hungaroring near Budapest since 1986, when it was run the first Gran Prix in a country of est Europa. It was a huge success and almost 200,000 fans showed up. So far 25 editions on this track: Schumacher 4 wins (1994 -1998 - 2001 and 2004) Hamilton 2 wins (2007 and 2009) Barrichello Button Kovalainen Alonso Webber: one win.
The Hungaroring is one of the most technical and demanding circuits of the championship, despite being one of the slowest of the season. A pilot once described it as "a street circuit without the houses". The track is made up of tight and complicated corners which require precise driving. Unfortunately, there is little opportunity for the drivers to overtake and the race is often processional. So will be important the qualifying and the strategy. The Hungaroring is little used outside of the Grand Prix weekend and therefore the track can be quite dusty and low on grip at the beginning of the weekend. Usually the atmospheric temperature is very high and only in 2006 there was a wet race.
Tomorrow 29 july, Alonso will celebrate his 30° birthday and on this circuit he won his first GP in 2003.
the soft(yellow) and the supersoft(red) tyre will be used as “prime” and “option” respectively: just as was the case of Monaco Grand Prix. The FIA decided for a single zone DRS in this race, of course on the start finish straight, the only one on this circuit. It will be the 850° GP in the hystory of Formula One
The podium after 10 races:
1° place: Vettel 6 – Hamilton 2 –Alonso 1– Button 1
2° place; Vettel 3 – Alonso 3 – Hamilton 2 – Button 1 – Webber 1
3° place; Webber 5 – Button 2 – Alonso 1 – Heidfeld 1 – Petrov 1
Fastest lap on race: Webber 4 – Hamilton 2 – Vettel 1 – Alonso 1– Button 1 – Massa 1
After this race there will be a break of four weeks. The next Grand Prix will be raced on the track most spectacular: Spa-Francorchamps with its fast corners, first of all, the legendary Eau Rouge-Raidillon.

This weekend will the be last Grand Prix before the vacation/holiday starts for the Teams and Drivers ..with other words for the complete F1 ..they will have a 3 week off !
So let's enjoy this Hungarian GP before there break .
When the races are in Europe the times are ( normaly ) always the same ,so here are they :

Friday :
1st practice session : 10.00u - 11.30u
2nd practice session : 14.00u - 15.30u

Saturday :
3rd practice session : 11.00u
Qulification : 14.00u 15.00u

Sunday :
Race : 14.00u

And if you want to see the 1st and 2nd session ..well tune than in at DSF/Sport1 because they always bring it " Live " !

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

Good luck to everyone ..i hope you all will score points

Dear Shaky, unfortunately I am not in the second but the third. The second is Bellerophon.
Thanks

A short comment about the " Top 3 " voting game !

a little shuffeling in our list also this weekend ...and we have a new leader ...congratulations wolf1
but as we all can see this Championship is still close together ..so everything is still open on the halfway of this season F1 " Top3 voting " game , there can be a lot of shuffeling going on this season ...and also what is so pleasant at our list is that we have more different leaders this season than at the Formula 1 Champions list ...so i would like to say to everyone here ..come on guys/girls let's keep this up until the end of the season ..play it until the last race is done
There is only 18 points difference between the new nr1 and the one on the 10th place ..and there is still 9 races to go ..so a lot of points to earn people !
And as Champion from last years " Top 3 Voting " game i want to say too everyone ....i will Not give up until the season is done !!!
To end this post i would like to invite everyone back at the " Top 3 Voting " game (and maybe some new people also ) next weekend for the Grand Prix of Hungary at the Budapest circuit !

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

Ferrari's pit stop team needs a lot of work in improoving tyres changing time.Or else they will keep on making their pilots loosing places in the race.Alonso could be first today. Not to mention what they did to Massa.

Now this was a fantastic race too watch at ..even when there was not the rain that they say'd/predict would come it was even brilliant with some close battles ,some fightings for position ,some nice strategy's,etc...so after this all here are the official results than from this GP :

1. Lewis Hamilton: McLaren : 1:34.302
2. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari : + 3.980
3. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing : + 9.788
4. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing : + 47.921
5. Felipe Massa : Ferrari : + 52.252
6. Adrian Sutil : Force India : + 1:26.208
7. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP : + 1 lap
8. Michael Schumacher : Mercedes GP : + 1 lap
9. Kamui Kobayashi : Sauber :+ 1 lap
10. Vitaly Petrov : Lotus Renault : + 1 lap
11. Sergio Perez : Sauber + 1 lap
12. Jaime Alguersuari : Toro Rosso + 1 lap
13. Paul di Resta : Force India : + 1 lap
14. Pastor Maldonado : Williams : + 1 lap
15. Sébastien Buemi : Toro Rosso : + 1 lap
16. Heikki Kovalainen : Team Lotus + 2 laps
17. Timo Glock : Virgin Racing : + 3 laps
18. Jerome D'Ambrosio : Virgin Racing + 3 laps
19. Daniel Ricciardo : HRT : + 3 laps
20. Karun Chandhok : Team Lotus : + 4 laps
Not Finished
21. Vitantonio Liuzzi : HRT
22. Jenson Button : McLaren
23. Rubens Barrichello : Williams
24. Nick Heidfeld : Lotus Renault : crash with Buemi

Safetycar : no
Fastest Lap : Lewis Hamilton : 1:34.302
Pitstop : Nick Heidfeld : none

source : F1 Today

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

These is the officail result from todays quailification :

1. Mark Webber :Red Bull Racing : 1:30.079
2. Lewis Hamilton : McLaren : 1:30.134 + 0.055
3. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing : 1:30.216 + 0.137
4. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari : 1:30.442 + 0.363
5. Felipe Massa : Ferrari : 1:30.910 + 0.831
6. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP : 1:31.263 + 1.184
7. Jenson Button : McLaren : 1:31.288 + 1.209
8. Adrian Sutil : Force India : 1:32.010 + 1.931
9. Vitaly Petrov : Lotus Renault : 1:32.187 + 2.108
10. Michael Schumacher : Mercedes GP : 1:32.482 + 2.403

Q2
11. Nick Heidfeld : Lotus Renault : 1:32.215 + 2.136
12. Paul di Resta : Force India : 1:32.560 + 2.481
13. Pastor Maldonado : Williams : 1:32.635 + 2.556
14. Rubens Barrichello : Williams : 1:33.043 + 2.964
15. Sergio Perez : Sauber : 1:33.176 + 3.097
16. Sébastien Buemi : Toro Rosso : 1:33.546 + 3.467
17. Jaime Alguersuari : Toro Rosso : 1:33.698 + 3.619

Q1
18. Kamui Kobayashi : Sauber : 1:33.786 + 3.707
19. Heikki Kovalainen : Team Lotus : 1:35.599 + 5.520
20. Timo Glock : Virgin Racing : 1:36.400 + 6.321
21. Karun Chandhok : Team Lotus : 1:36.422 + 6.343
22. Jerome D'Ambrosio : Virgin Racing : 1:36.641 + 6.562
23. Vitantonio Liuzzi : 1:37.011 + 6.932
24. Daniel Ricciardo : 1:37.036 + 6.957

They predict rain on race day so let's see what the outcome than will be at the end ...because if Vettel wins again ..we all know who the Champion will be this season ....not that i would not give the Champions titel back to him...but it's still 9 races to go ....if he would not win let's say 3 or 4 races than it might get exciting again but at this moment it's a bit at the front of the list

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

shaky-schumi wrote:Sorry Mr_Niceguy that you did not score points this race ..but next time it could be you scoring points and leave us behind ..so don't give up my friend

Well Shaky like I always say, you win some and you loose some.

You know, no offense, but the last time I watched formula one was when Senna and Mansell fought their epic battles so if I could outscore you guys well..... lets say it would reflect pourly on your expertise.

I got lucky a couple of times, but with this last race it turns out true knowledge pays off in the end.

These are the times of the last practice session of the German GP :

1. Sebastian Vettel 1:30.916
2. Mark Webber 1:31.049 + 0.133
3. Fernando Alonso 1:31.138 + 0.222
4. Lewis Hamilton 1:31.578 + 0.662
5. Jenson Button 1:31.623 + 0.707
6. Nico Rosberg 1:31.694 + 0.778
7. Felipe Massa 1:32.144 + 1.228
8. Adrian Sutil 1:32.391 + 1.475
9. Michael Schumacher 1:32.523 + 1.607
10. Pastor Maldonado 1:32.751 + 1.835
11. Vitaly Petrov 1:32.777 + 1.861
12. Paul di Resta 1:32.813 + 1.897
13. Nick Heidfeld 1:33.072 + 2.156
14. Rubens Barrichello 1:33.179 + 2.263
15. Sergio Perez 1:33.531 + 2.615
16. Kamui Kobayashi 1:33.671 + 2.755
17. Sébastien Buemi 1:33.948 + 3.032
18. Jaime Alguersuari 1:34.125 + 3.209
19. Heikki Kovalainen 1:35.385 + 4.469
20. Timo Glock 1:36.724 + 5.808
21. Vitantonio Liuzzi1:36.804 + 5.888
22. Jerome D'Ambrosio 1:36.894 + 5.978
23. Karun Chandhok 1:36.959 + 6.043
24. Daniel Ricciardo 1:37.554 + 6.638

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

These are the times of the 2nd practice session :

1. Mark Webber 1:31.711
2. Fernando Alonso 1:31.879 + 0.168
3. Sebastian Vettel 1:32.084 + 0.373
4. Felipe Massa 1:32.354 + 0.643
5. Michael Schumacher 1:32.411 + 0.700
6. Nico Rosberg 1:32.557 + 0.846
7. Lewis Hamilton 1:32.724 + 1.013
8. Nick Heidfeld 1:33.098 + 1.387
9. Vitaly Petrov 1:33.138 + 1.427
10. Adrian Sutil 1:33.211 + 1.500
11. Jenson Button 1:33.225 + 1.514
12. Paul di Resta 1:33.299 + 1.588
13. Sergio Perez 1:34.113 + 2.402
14. Rubens Barrichello 1:34.344 + 2.633
15. Jaime Alguersuari 1:34.487 + 2.776
16. Kamui Kobayashi 1:34.491 + 2.780
17. Pastor Maldonado 1:34.996 + 3.285
18. Heikki Kovalainen 1:35.753 + 4.042
19. Timo Glock 1:36.940 + 5.229
20. Karun Chandhok 1:37.248 + 5.537
21. Jerome D'Ambrosio 1:37.313 + 5.602
22. Vitantonio Liuzzi 1:38.145 + 6.434
23. Daniel Ricciardo 1:40.737 + 9.026
24. Sébastien Buemi : no time

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

Saturday will be the 3rd and last practice session at 11.00u ,followed in the afternoon at 14.00u the qualification

So F1 fans the 1st practice session is just bin driven and here are the times allready ,hot from the Belgium pc and straight towards here :

1. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:31.894
2. Mark Webber Red Bull Racing 1:32.217 + 0.323
3. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing 1:32.268 + 0.374
4. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:32.681 + 0.787
5. Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:32.996 + 1.102
6. Jenson Button McLaren 1:33.628 + 1.734
7. Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP 1:33.787 + 1.893
8. Adrian Sutil Force India 1:33.832 + 1.938
9. Nico Hulkenberg Force India 1:33.858 + 1.964
10. Michael Schumacher Mercedes GP 1:33.863 + 1.969
11. Vitaly Petrov Lotus Renault GP 1:34.094 + 2.200
12. Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso 1:35.115 + 3.221
13. Sébastien Buemi Toro Rosso 1:35.371 + 3.477
14 Rubens Barrichello Williams 1:35.389 + 3.495
15. Nick Heidfeld Lotus Renault GP 1:35.444 + 3.550
16. Sergio Perez Sauber 1:36.371 + 4.477
17. Heikki Kovalainen Team Lotus 1:36.392 + 4.498
18. Pastor Maldonado Williams 1:36.842 + 4.948
19. Kamui Kobayashi Sauber 1:36.882 + 4.988
20. Narain Karthikeyan HRT F1 Team 1:38.504 + 6.610
21. Karun Chandhok Team Lotus 1:38.765 + 6.871
22. Daniel Ricciardo HRT F1 Team 1:39.279 + 7.385
23. Timo Glock Virgin Racing 1:40.109 + 8.215
24. Jerome D'Ambrosio Virgin Racing 1:40.428 + 8.534

A good start again from Alonso and Felipe hope that they can continue this this afternoon at 14.00u
For the rest it was a usual practice session like most of the previous ones , this means ,some blocking wheels, some drivers got of the track ,the most spectacular run off was at the slot seconds of the session by Sébastien Buemi , he spun off the track at turn five. The Toro Rosso briefly flew the air as he bounced over two gravel traps and a tarmac access road.he almost landed upside down !

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

This weekend it's the Grand Prix of Germany so here are the times and some short messages that pops out from this week in the F1 world !

Friday :
1st practice sesion : 10.00u-11.30u
2nd practice session : 14.00u-15.30u

Saturday :
3rd practice session : 11.00u-12.00u
qulification : 14.00u-15.00u

Sunday :
race : 14.00u

Karun Chandhok will race in place of Jarno Trulli at this weekend's German Grand Prix for Lotus.

Michael Schumacher admitted he is disappointed with the second season of his F1 comeback.

Drivers will only be able to use DRS once because the FIA has only giving one DRS zone .,this will be at the Warsteiner Kurve, this is at turn/curve 11

Rain is expected at the Nürburgring.

The organisation of German Gran Prix has moved the starting-line a 100 meters , the line is now closer to the first corner ,the finish-line is at the same place where she was beore !

After 15 years Aldo Costa has left Ferrari

Red-Bull will have a special sponsor for this weekend namely the German supermarket Kaufland !

Jarno Trulli to expected to drive also next season for Team-Lotus ,negotiations are allready started about that .

The FIA has launched on wednesday the new technical rules for 2014 !

The first half of the season saw 623 overtakings and 560 pitstops !

James Allison is the new leader of the FOTA Technical Working Group

Nürburgring lays future in the hands of Bernie Ecclestone

Mansell: “Hamilton behaves immature and stupid/foolish ”

Ferrari says line-up 20012 stays thesame !!!!!!!!! ( Yeeeah Felipe baby )
MercedesGP line up will stay also thesame ( 98 % for sure ! ) Thank thank you ...go Schumi,go Schumi ,go schumi ..next year will be the year of Schumi )

FIA confirms that in 2014 the Rpm will be limited at 15000/rpm !

Williams and Barrichello are talking at the German GP about a new contract

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi



The season is now halfway ( ) ...so let me take a short opertunity to say too oberon .. Thank You for your contribution on this topic ...it's always a pleasure to see some statistics !!!! Welldone ...keep it up ( if you can and will ofcourse )

And as always : DSF-Sport1 will bring the 1st and 2nd session " live " !!!

the podium of the last three Germany GP

2010(Hockenhaim)
1 Fernando Alonso Ferrari
2 Felipe Massa Ferrari
3 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull- Renault
fastest lap on race: Sebastian Vettel Red Bull- Renault

2009(Nurburgring)
1 Mark Webber Red Bull- Renault
2 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull- Renault
3 Felipe Massa Ferrari
fastest lap on race: Fernando Alonso Renault

2008(Hockenhaim)
1 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes
2 Nelsinho Piquet Renault
3 Felipe Massa Ferrari
fastest lap on race: Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber

will be the 58° edition of Germany GP
Until now 24 editions at Nurburgring (this year will be 25); 32 at Hockenhaim and 1 at AVUS
The Nurburgring is scheduled to host this year's the grand prix of Germany, but according to the alternating deal with Hockenheim. So the odd years at the Nurburgring and the even years at the Hockenheim.
The Nurburgring was also home the European Grand Prix(12 editions) and the Luxemburg GP(2 editions)
the new Nurburgring has nothing to do with his ancestor Nordschleife (northern loop) considered too dangerous after the accident of Niki Lauda .(1° august 1976) For the Belgian fans, Jacky Ickx won twice on this track in 1969 (Brabham) and 1972 on Ferrari. The new Nürburgring F1 track was completed in 1984 and called GP-Strecke. The best place to overtake is the first hairpin to the right where drivers can take various different racing lines, but you need great stability under braking. From there you enter the Mercedes Arena. Will be only one DRS Zone (Drag Reduction System) for this race.
The FIA has confirmed that the rules on blown diffusers will revert to those in place for the European Grand Prix for the remainder of the 2011 F1 season. Full exhaust blown diffusers will be permitted once again but there will be no special qualifying engine maps.
the medium(white) and the soft(yellow) tyre will be used as “prime” and “option” respectively
the track is not very demanding on the tires.
The podium after 9 races:
1° place: Vettel 6 – Alonso 1 – Hamilton 1 – Button 1
2° place: Vettel 3 – Alonso 2 – Hamilton 2 – Button 1 – Webber 1
3° place: Webber 4 – Button 2 – Alonso 1 – Heidfeld 1 – Petrov 1

The heroes of the northern loop
Next Sunday we will run the Grand Prix of Germany, at the Nurburgring, but until 1976 there was an other circuit called “die Nordschleife” The old Nurburgring was a mythical circuit with 172 corners and 22,8 km length, known as “the Green Hell”. This circuit was like a serpent of asphalt, which insinuated itself between volcanic peaks and fabulous forests. A victory at the Ring was usually the distinctive sign of a true champion. Before the start of the F1 in july 1935 was held a memorable race on this track in front of more than 250,000 viewers. One of the most famous Grand Prix race of all time. In those years the German cars were silver, Italian cars were red, English cars were green and French cars were blue.
There were five powerful Mercedes (Caracciola, Fagioli, Lang, von Brauchitsch and Geier) against the Auto Union with an engine V16 cylinders (Rosemeyer, Varzi, Stuck e Pietsch) In the middle among a mixture of Maserati, ERA and Bugatti, there was the Scuderia Ferrari with an old Alfa Romeo P3 at the wheel Tazio Nuvolari. It had been raining during the night and dark clouds and fog still hung over parts of the track. After 8 laps, there were three Mercedes cars at the top, Caracciola, Fagioli and von Brauchitsch. Only 2 laps later Nuvolari was in the lead, but lost two minutes to pit stop. Over the next few laps he passed Caracciola, Stuck and Fagioli. The gap to the race leader Von Brauchitsch nicknamed “der Pechvogel”, was 1m 27sec with seven laps still remaining, but his driving style putting great pressure on his tyres, nevertheless decided not to stop to change them At the last lap just thirty seconds separated the two men; but a few kilometers from the finish line the left rear tyre of his Mercedes bursted, and so unexpectedly won a red car, an old Alfa Romeo P3 Scuderia Ferrari. After that race Nuvolari was nicknamed “der Teufel” by German fans

1° Tazio Nuvolari Alfa Romeo Scuderia Ferrari time 4 h. 08 min 04 sec.
2° Hans Stuck Auto Union + 2 min 14 sec
3° Rudy Caracciola Mercedes + 3 min 09 sec
4° Bernd Rosemeyer Auto Union + 4 min 47 sec
5° M. Von Brauchitsch Mercedes + 6 min 13 sec
6° Luigi Fagioli Mercedes + 7 min 54 sec
7° Hans Geier Mercedes + 1 lap
8°Achille Varzi Auto Union + 1 lap