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29/03/1961 gary brabham former australian f1 driver
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29/03/1974 marc genè spanish f1 driver
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Sebastian Vettel has personally presented his apologies to the staff of the Red Bull team for disobeying the order of the last Grand Prix of Malaysia, when a dozen laps passed his team-mate Mark Webber who at that time was in the head. Earlier this week, the German driver has visited the team at the site of Milton Keynes in the UK in the next race in China, taking the opportunity to reiterate his mea culpa .

i don't like teams orders (also ferrari done in the past)
f1 will be ruined by the business

27/03/1971 david coulthard former scottish f1 driver
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Didier Pironi
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Born : 26th March 1952 - Died : 23rd August 1987

For me, both Mercedes and Red Bull have had a shameful behavior with team orders.
Rosberg has had to raise the foot not to move forward Hamilton; and Vettel, can be a great pilot but he has disappointed me as a sportsman.

To be honaust i'm serious dissapointed in the Team of Red Bull & Mercedes ,it's only the 2nd race ...and what is happening allready ....Team orders ....Come pn let those drivers fight each other .....let them race for what they are worth it ....and not ..." Nico you may not overtake Lewis " & " get Mark out of the way i'm faster " . Seriously ...a tripple F1 World Champion and complaining that his team mate is too slow ....wel Sebastianproof that you are a 3 times F1 Champion and just overtake him ....and don't cry like a baby !!!
The season is just begon ,so let them fight each other ..without taken each other out of the race ofcourse
And about Ferrari ...i can say that it was a serious gamble with keeping Alonso out for 1 more lap ....always the wrong strategy Thank god that Massa saved some damage for the Team !

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

Niki Lauda - Living Legend now Boss in Mercedes ...
Finally the Mercedes is goin well in F1 thanks to his great experience.
I'm so happy for Him, he is always in my heart just since my childhood !

So go ahead Mercedes !
This is only the new beggining, there is a lot of work to do but this is a good start.

Result of the race in Malaysia :

Sebastian Vettel beats Mark Webber amid team row
Sebastian Vettel denied Mark Webber in a ferocious Red Bull intra-team battle to secure Malaysian Grand Prix victory. The pair were wheel to wheel repeatedly in the closing laps before Vettel broke clear - despite the team having ordered them to hold station with Webber ahead.
Just behind them,team instructions were also a flashpoint between the Mercedes team-mates, before Lewis Hamilton - who had been a lead threat for a spell - led home Nico Rosberg.
Fernando Alonso's bid for victory ended early, when he crashed out having sustained wing damage nudging Vettel on the opening lap. Conditions had been wet at that stage following a heavy pre-race shower.
Alonso immediately passed Ferrari team-mate Felipe Massa off the line, resisted Webber's outside-line attempt and attacked Vettel for the lead, but slid lightly into the Red Bull at Turn 2 . That dislodged the Ferrari's front wing, a situation that worsened as the lap went on - though that did not stop Alonso from fending off Webber's repeated probes. Ferrari stayed out, seemingly hoping to coincide the wing change with a switch to slicks, but as Webber passed Alonso on the pits straight, the Spaniard's wing collapsed and sent him skating into the gravel and out of the race. Vettel and Webber then ran first and second, swapping positions at the pitstops as Vettel's early change to slicks proved slightly premature. Webber came under increasing pressure from Vettel in the middle of the race, while the Mercedes began catching them both.
This prompted Vettel to urge the team to get Webber out of his way, but the Australian managed to rebuild a lead and Vettel found himself dropping behind the earlier-pitting Hamilton at the third pitstops.
Hamilton lost pace in the next stint as he had to start saving fuel, allowing Vettel to reclaim second into the first corner. The world champion then played the early stop tactic at the fourth and final pit visit, which brought him right back onto Webber's tail when the Australian changed tyres. They grappled wheel to wheel through the first five corners for two consecutive laps, prompting frantic radio calls from a concerned Red Bull pitwall, before Vettel got decisively in front and went on to clinch another win. The Mercedes had fallen away by that stage and were involved in their own intra-team controversy. After Hamilton and Rosberg swapped places repeatedly in the DRS zones for several laps, they were ordered to hold station and save fuel and tyres, to Rosberg's clear displeasure. Ferrari had to settle for fifth with Felipe Massa, who recovered to that position after losing ground in the early stages. That place would have gone to Jenson Button had the McLaren not lost two minutes in the pits after pulling away with a loose right front wheel and having to stop in the pitlane and wait for his mechanics to retrieve the car. That was one of a wild array of pit incidents, which also included Hamilton mistakenly pulling into former team McLaren's area, both Force Indias having to retire with wheelnut issues, and Charles Pic and Jean-Eric Vergne colliding amid pitstops. Lotus claimed sixth and seventh with Romain Grosjean and Kimi Raikkonen, the latter having an uneventful afternoon that included trips off the road and a bitter battle with Sauber's Nico Hulkenberg, who took eighth. Sergio Perez was ninth for McLaren, while Vergne held off Valtteri Bottas to give Toro Rosso the final point.

1. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:38:56.681
2. Mark Webber Red Bull +4.298
3. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes +12.181
4. Nico Rosberg Mercedes +12.640
5. Felipe Massa Ferrari +25.648
6. Romain Grosjean Lotus +35.564
7. Kimi Räikkönen Lotus +48.479
8. Nico Hülkenberg Sauber +53.044
9. Sergio Perez McLaren +1:12.357
10. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso +1:27.124
11. Valtteri Bottas Williams +1:28.610
12. Esteban Gutiérrez Sauber +1lap
13. Jules Bianchi Marussia +1 lap
14. Charles Pic Caterham +1 lap
15. Giedo van der Garde Caterham +1lap
16. Max Chilton Marussia +2 laps
Did Not Finish :
17. Jenson Button McLaren +3 laps
18. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso +5 laps
19. Pastor Maldonado Williams +11 laps
20. Adrian Sutil Force India +0
21. Paul di Resta Force India +0
22. Fernando Alonso Ferrari +0

Fastest lap : Sergio Perez - 1:39.199
Pitstop Button : DNF
Bat.2 Teams : Grosjean > Perez
Gr.Pos .- V. Bottas : 11th place

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

constructors standing
1 Red Bull Racing-Renault 66
2 Lotus-Renault 40
3 Ferrari 40
4 Mercedes 37
5 Force India-Mercedes 10
6 Sauber-Ferrari 4
7 McLaren-Mercedes 4
8 STR-Ferrari 1
9 Williams-Renault 0
10 Marussia-Cosworth 0
11 Caterham-Renault 0

drivers standings
1 Sebastian Vettel German Red Bull Racing-Renault 40
2 Kimi Räikkönen Finnish Lotus-Renault 31
3 Mark Webber Australian Red Bull Racing-Renault 26
4 Lewis Hamilton British Mercedes 25
5 Felipe Massa Brazilian Ferrari 22
6 Fernando Alonso Spanish Ferrari 18
7 Nico Rosberg German Mercedes 12
8 Romain Grosjean French Lotus-Renault 9
9 Adrian Sutil German Force India-Mercedes 6
10 Paul di Resta British Force India-Mercedes 4
11 Nico Hulkenberg German Sauber-Ferrari 4
12 Sergio Perez Mexican McLaren-Mercedes 2
13 Jenson Button British McLaren-Mercedes 2
14 Jean-Eric Vergne French STR-Ferrari 1
15 Valtteri Bottas Finnish Williams-Renault 0
16 Esteban Gutierrez Mexican Sauber-Ferrari 0
17 Jules Bianchi French Marussia-Cosworth 0
18 Charles Pic French Caterham-Renault 0
19 Giedo van der Garde Dutch Caterham-Renault 0
20 Max Chilton British Marussia-Cosworth 0
21 Daniel Ricciardo Australian STR-Ferrari 0
22 Pastor Maldonado Venezuelan Williams-Renault 0

malaysia gp results
1 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 56 Winner 1 25
2 2 Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault 56 +4.2 secs 5 18
3 10 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 56 +12.1 secs 4 15
4 9 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 56 +12.6 secs 6 12
5 4 Felipe Massa Ferrari 56 +25.6 secs 2 10
6 8 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 56 +35.5 secs 11 8
7 7 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault 56 +48.4 secs 10 6
8 11 Nico Hulkenberg Sauber-Ferrari 56 +53.0 secs 12 4
9 6 Sergio Perez McLaren-Mercedes 56 +72.3 secs 9 2
10 18 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Ferrari 56 +87.1 secs 17 1
11 17 Valtteri Bottas Williams-Renault 56 +88.6 secs 18
12 12 Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 55 +1 Lap 14
13 22 Jules Bianchi Marussia-Cosworth 55 +1 Lap 19
14 20 Charles Pic Caterham-Renault 55 +1 Lap 20
15 21 Giedo van der Garde Caterham-Renault 55 +1 Lap 22
16 23 Max Chilton Marussia-Cosworth 54 +2 Laps 21
17 5 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 53 +3 Laps 7
18 19 Daniel Ricciardo STR-Ferrari 51 +5 Laps 13
Ret 16 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 45 +11 Laps 16
Ret 15 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 27 +29 Laps 8
Ret 14 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 22 +34 Laps 15
Ret 3 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1 +55 Laps 3
Note - Raikkonen qualified seventh but dropped three grid places for impeding

2013 FORMULA 1 UBS CHINESE GRAND PRIX
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Fri 12 April 2013
Practice 1 04:00 - 05:30
Practice 2 08:00 - 09:30
Sat 13 April 2013
Practice 3 05:00 - 06:00
Qualifying 08:00
Sun 14 April 2013
Race 09:00

Jaime Alguersuari 23rd March 1990
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Happy Birthday to your 23rd anniversary

Kimi Raikonen 3 places back in starting order due to interference of Nico Rosberg.
Now place 10 in starting grid.