Models choice or ETV policy

A lot of controverse over models being called liars and hypocryts led me to open this tread. I for one feel it's a total outrage to accuse a model of this, but lets put the arguments together and maybe we can figure it out.

It seems pretty obvious that if a model doesn't want to undress, she doesn't have to. I think we can all agree on this, after all we are not cavemen.

If a model does want to be more revealing (to make more money?), is there a policy from ETV management to prevent this from happening for some reason and what might this reason be?

I think it is pretty obvious at some times when a model seems to be starting what might be a hot show the camera turns away or regie cuts to another camera. Is this a matter of policy or was there made an agreement with the model? Maybe it's a combination of both?

I have the impression some models are being used as an advertisment for the channel. When a girl start to do a hot show and every time the camera is switched to some other girls lying idle on the bed it's like a commercial that says call us and what you see here (hot show) is what you can do here (idle girls).

If it is not the models choice, does she still get more money? If it is the models choice why would she sometimes make the choice to show more and another time not? It seems illogical if she can make more money and has already shown her "assets" before.

I have more thougths about this floating around, but for now it seems like enough. what do you think? (and remember to always keep on a )

BTW I looked but I didn't find a similar post if I'm wrong I can always delete it.

added 30-08-2011:
In addition to this post I can say now that it is the models decision. There can be many reasons for a model to show more or less as she did before, all of them are privat. What the director shows is the result of a mix of reasons among which are the regulations regarding showing nudity. Lets not forget that in addition to the 'floor'director there is also someone who is the 'switch'director.

Germane wrote:I don't think that ETV creates roles or got a sophisticated policy. They are simply too unprofessional for my opinion. For this there are many examples...

In the company I work there's a policy for everything except of going to toilet, but anyway this doesn't prevent from dilletantish decisions by the management
Regards
Joker

My impression: The models can decide what they DO - undressing or not.

But: The operator at the video mixer together with the camera men decide what the viewers can SEE....
So this team sometimes has much more influence for the quality of the show than the show director.
Maybe they have orders, maybe sometimes they are unprofessional, maybe they have their own favourite models... or even maybe they like or hate special viewers!
I have some experiences with this fact.

I don't think that ETV creates roles or got a sophisticated policy. They are simply too unprofessional for my opinion. For this there are many examples...

baabababa wrote:I agree completly with Joker

Just one add
The Models can decide - in each Show - if they want to undress and how much they want to show.

Within the show I'm not sure, maybe it's just depending on the mood of the girls, but my impression is sometimes there's a restriction for undressing also after 23:00o'clock.

Regards
Joker

I agree completly with Joker

Just one add
The Models can decide - in each Show - if they want to undress and how much they want to show.
A good example for that was Scarlet. She was performing very hot Shows, but left ETV for a while ( her Fans know why ) -> after a while she returned and was doing only soft shows -> another while later she solved her problems ( her fans know what i mean ) and was hot again.
Noone of ETV forces a Model to get naked or not i think. I that case they can do whatever they want.

brudgon wrote:and for kleopatra? models choice or etv policy?
after three years i don't know

Counting 1+1, why should ETV not allow her to get naked? I don't think the ETV management will take care for what exactly a girl is doing on the screen as long as she doesn't violate legal obligations or insults the viewers.
IMHO ETV management has a policy based on legal obligations what can be shown, and every show will have a plot within that the girls have some freedom to act, but it's up to the director to direct the show and make sure to follow the ETV policys by giving orders what to show or not not show, but he won't be in the position to force a girl to get naked, but for sure he can give order to a girl not to do it or switch the camera away if a girl does it anyway.
Maybe a female member of this forum (if there is one ) could sign a contract with ETV and then report
Regards
Joker

JuFan wrote:

GenaroXP wrote:The director gives the order what the models have to do in a show (how to move) but they has not the right and the force to say a model that she must show her naked breast or her pussy thats B**** S**** because when it were so than the directors must also have the force to decide that Evah,Joanna,Brona,Kleopatra or Karry get naked and have you ever seen it till now ?? I think you know the answer.

You're absolutly right!

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Well I am sure someone will post an answer to my post but to my humble opinion it is the Director decision when and what gets off and also here this is not his own decision in regard to the level of the heat of the show , this is dictated by the management if you watch carefully the show the camera the models look, you can understand that in every given show not all hot models are allowed to get undress so basically the Director plays with these parameters and maintains the show as expected byt ETV's management. Having said that the mentioned ladies above have probably a defined contract or some sort of an agreement with ETV that they are just models and that's it. A director or ETV can't force anyone to undress unless they are willing to do so and they gave their consent to it in a written paper otherwise they - ETV - will be liable to a law suite and involved in criminal activities. This is a satellite TV and not some sleazy dubious bar where owners usually treat girls like garbage and do what they want !!
Now ETV for the moment at least makes sure that in any given show at least some of the models are willing to show their body either completely naked or just topless - when they do it, what they show is the Directors decision ...

and for kleopatra? models choice or etv policy?
after three years i don't know

rialpka wrote:Sorry, not completely exact, there are directors who press on soft models so that they show more.
If the model is low she can eventually accept and if she does not want and what the continuous pressure she eventually leaves as we see it for many of models beginners.

If you change "press" with "ask" it could maybe right what you say. I think the highest press comes from the callers/sms senders which ask permanently for a m***show.

Sorry, not completely exact, there are directors who press on soft models so that they show more.
If the model is low she can eventually accept and if she does not want and what the continuous pressure she eventually leaves as we see it for many of models beginners.

kolokotronis wrote:It means Kate yestarday take the decision to show her naked body? You believe that?

Yes,it was her decision to show us that what we have seen (I´m one of her caller).

GenaroXP wrote:

kolokotronis wrote:Kyke50

I have the ansewr for you. Some months ago was in their site a viewers cam where can see clear who give orders.Everything control director"s. I am so sorry about that

The director gives the order what the models have to do in a show (how to move) but they has not the right and the force to say a model that she must show her naked breast or her pussy thats B**** S**** because when it were so than the directors must also have the force to decide that Evah,Joanna,Brona,Kleopatra or Karry get naked and have you ever seen it till now ?? I think you know the answer.

Karry saw us her pussy but it was accident , or oops in a shower show.? It means Kate yestarday take the decision to show her naked body? You believe that? Jane yestarday dont show anything , and she is the hotter performer etv for me ofcource these days. It was hers decision. ? Lia was soft , after hot and know what ? Yestarday was naked and perform good. It was her decision to be censored her performance. I think you know the ansewr. And yes there are and 4 really soft models

GenaroXP wrote:The director gives the order what the models have to do in a show (how to move) but they has not the right and the force to say a model that she must show her naked breast or her pussy thats B**** S**** because when it were so than the directors must also have the force to decide that Evah,Joanna,Brona,Kleopatra or Karry get naked and have you ever seen it till now ?? I think you know the answer.

You're absolutly right!

kolokotronis wrote:Kyke50

I have the ansewr for you. Some months ago was in their site a viewers cam where can see clear who give orders.Everything control director"s. I am so sorry about that

The director gives the order what the models have to do in a show (how to move) but they has not the right and the force to say a model that she must show her naked breast or her pussy thats B**** S**** because when it were so than the directors must also have the force to decide that Evah,Joanna,Brona,Kleopatra or Karry get naked and have you ever seen it till now ?? I think you know the answer.