Last night's show

Tarl_Cabot wrote:why do always the persons who spend money for etv defend etv while the for free wankers complain?
if etv would do everything so wrong this discussion would be different, or?

Hi Tarl

to give an explanation of this mystery it's necessary to become a caller I think.
I explored a lot which would be hidden without that. For the case I reach another lady at first and it was often during the last months I tried to find some nice words for her too. In between I get answers like "Hi... you would like to speak with...? and got some nice words too"
If ... is busy I speak some minutes with her and believe me never I got an unfriendly or angry answer but support by everyone there.
Because I have to name the super modi Joanna. It doesn't matter on me if she is a so named softie.
Not to forget someone who works in the background there... ("C...")
I have found not the worst way I think.

Greets and have a nice weekend

PS:[off topic on] are you watching this moment ? They are playing Hotel California by the Eagles" [off topic off]

(show them your respect and the fun will follow by alone...)

klemi wrote:< snip >
You dont apply for this job if you dont know what follows.
< snip >

How true ... but it appears that you do not understand what you say with this statement.
What you see on the screen, no matter which model you consider, is "what follows".
The fact that it does not meet with your expectations is your problem, not ours, not ETV's.
At some point you have to accept reality ...
... or, of course, you could start your own channel.

Legxpert wrote:

klemi wrote:And believe me besides all lies they make, when another director would just blink, for the right money these softies would do anything.

Aha. So you've talked with the models in the studio about why they strip or not strip? You know all their characters and reasons for their behaviour?

Sorry klemi, but not only that you repeat your things over and over again you also have absolutely no respect for gods best creation... WOMEN! But of course it's easy to hide behind your keyboard on the internet and act like this but I'll bet you doin't have the guts to speak like this with a women in the real world. And sorry, but with this post you've finally lost all my respect for you.

ETV now has maybe 6-7 nice models who do stripping.

Mmh flipping through the models list I see at least 21 models who to some degree show us their naked body. But as usual you distrube here false information.

I said nice models that do stripping, not all models. 21? Get serious, if you wanna compare them who go naked with beauty that Evah and Brona have, there are maybe 4-5 or even less. Of those who perform. But it is their corrupt strategy to put now best models in the evening show, and in a nightshow same old story with Athina or Tessa or Lilian...No I dont have any respect for them as models. Few years ago they were good enough for early morning shows now they are stars of the nightshows. But until for some riding baloons is enough for some, well ETV thinks well super, we dont have to do anything, until money keeps flowing in.
Some of you are commenting how it is not true soft models would do anything. Just look at Kate or Gia or some others that said that they are softest of them all. You dont apply for this job if you dont know what follows. Except in one case; if a boss of a certain channel alloves such circus as on etv.
Before you attack me again:
ETV studio, nightshow, 7 models, 6 plus one soft. A viewer asks this softy to go topless she answers: Well I cannot strip cause I am not a hooker. How idiotic is this for other models??? Germans would say "respectlos". Legexpert you have btw big respect for this model saying such rubbish.
I respect other people: people who come to work and do it properly. And get rewarded for it. In a good company...I hope they get that on etv otherwise all little arguments here have no meaning.

One little thing about last night that bugs me most last few weeks: seems like there is no serious control of smss appearing on these screens, so it happens that one sms comes on screens 5-6 times, so 2 nights ago we saw maybe half of the night of baloon riding from a viewer maybe going in bed hours ago. A disaster really. It looked rather bizarre. Any comment why this happens???

Good night

Hmmm ...
So, not much happened in last night's show then ...

kolokotronis wrote:@Mr Niceguy

This is my ansewr
1. I see that you atack everybody who dont like etv project
2. I dont like etv project and because of that i dont watch live shows.I only record some shows if i like one model like jane . I know that in 5 hours shows mabe there are maximum 5 -10 minutes realy hot action. Why somedody watch 5 hour for that ? I dont want to be a lover model in an ( eurotic chanell).I dont want to know personality of one person who never in my life meet.This is logic etv and how i see and yours to make money for nothing
3.I record some shows because i dont want to ask for videomakers who make great work for some videos.Two days ago lia has a fantastic ass shot and yestarday jane has some good moments but there arent exept gias who has 100 pages of videos other videos.Idont have the knowlegde and time to make videos
Is my ansewr clear for you?

Sorry, but no. I was looking only for a simple yes or no. I am just holding up a mirror with a simple question, if you see this as an attack then you can draw your own conclusions.

Also I did not ask for this discussion (about nothing).

Tarl_Cabot wrote:...why do always the persons who spend money for etv defend etv while the for free wankers complain?
if etv would do everything so wrong this discussion would be different, or?

Sorry, can you give me the list of the paying wankers and the free wankers -maybe it´s important for all and we have to check it !

The discussion somehow is useless.
Nothing will change as long as ETV is quite successful with there concept and it seems to me they are.
So the moderator can say a girl shows as much as she wants and it's her decision as long as the money is right.
We don't know if some soft models would change there minds if the situation is different or would rather leave the channel.

vappiano68 wrote:Please, don't turn this enjoyable forum into a place where every post is an attack against other members.

hmmm...that's the description of how this forum has always been,since the old days..

Tut tut

Possesiveness and territorialism are bad trates in all of us, so please refrain from displaying it here.

klemi wrote:for the right money these softies would do anything. .

well..guess people don't like to read this..but it's the truth
I'd go naked on tv too for the right price

@Mr Niceguy

This is my ansewr
1. I see that you atack everybody who dont like etv project
2. I dont like etv project and because of that i dont watch live shows.I only record some shows if i like one model like jane . I know that in 5 hours shows mabe there are maximum 5 -10 minutes realy hot action. Why somedody watch 5 hour for that ? I dont want to be a lover model in an ( eurotic chanell).I dont want to know personality of one person who never in my life meet.This is logic etv and how i see and yours to make money for nothing
3.I record some shows because i dont want to ask for videomakers who make great work for some videos.Two days ago lia has a fantastic ass shot and yestarday jane has some good moments but there arent exept gias who has 100 pages of videos other videos.Idont have the knowlegde and time to make videos
Is my ansewr clear for you?

Mr_Niceguy wrote:@kokotronis

You don't see the logic in watching something you like and not watch something you don't like?

Mr_Niceguy wrote:

kolokotronis wrote:@ Mr Niceguy

You dont see the logic between fake and original, lie and true?

Ehm, no , now can you answer my question?

I'd still like an answer to my simple question. I didn't attack or defend anybody or anything. It seems some people feeling cornered by logic feel the need to get verbaly abusive and offensive to fellow forum members. I don't feel any need for that. I would like an answer though.

And again the old discussion "wankers vs sissies"

Tarl_Cabot wrote:and now my two cents about this repetition of that endless discussion:
why do always the persons who spend money for etv defend etv while the for free wankers complain?
if etv would do everything so wrong this discussion would be different, or?

Hi Tari, I don't know if you regularly read the italian forum, but I can tell you that you can often read complaints also from persons who spend money and you can read compliments from people who don't spend.

hanshel wrote:Permits is only positive way and it seems for some brothers short cynical remarks about models and their fans !
But please no criticism on ETV and their development!
And certainly not a serious criticism with maybe the true background! Therefore maybe we "evil brothers" are also no VIP's!
We simply lack the slime! - But life goes on !

this is explained here in the forum and on the busy screen for not VIPs. and about long time members with many posts you should asked these for the reason. also is even this single thread enough to see that defenders aren't automatically VIPs.
enjoy reading AND understanding the given explanations.

and now my two cents about this repetition of that endless discussion:
why do always the persons who spend money for etv defend etv while the for free wankers complain?
if etv would do everything so wrong this discussion would be different, or?