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I am from the UK and watch both the uk phone in shows and eurotic.Its true that the rules in the Uk are strict on fta channels.However we have at present 15 phone in channels that apparently make money.Some of the channels such as Babestation have 4 fta channels,1 encrypted partial phone in channels and 2 unencrypted web only shows.
The comments posted from ETV wall implys that this is a stand alone,self financed channel.Alyhough i dont know if that is true but if it is ,with the number of models on air to be paid im sure it would have failed long ago.I take that statement with a big pinch of salt. Anyone watching UK shows can see only 1 sometimes 2 models per channel. As for censoreship i still say its self imposed. . |
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So according to the posts below it would seem Eurotic are not exactly pushing the boat out to try and keep customers who have contributed to their new pay per view 'hot' sections of the night show. It's so laughable and hard to believe that a company looking for revenue can act like this. And if or when it comes to an end they will still blame the lack of revenue on the customers who stopped calling or purchasing credits. They just want people to keep throwing money at them every time they tune in but want to give nothing in return. But this time, the knife they have stuck into their own back is gonna be so so hard to recover from this time. Surely the models must have thoughts about their future at Eurotic if they keep this format going. It is true that the regulators in tv land are wanting all shows of this type off our screens and not fta. So really- the only way for these channels to go is subscription and/or web. It is going to happen sometime soon but I just cannot see Enough people buying credits every week to watch what they are producing these days.
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Since the reason the it is forbidden to upload photos or videos of Exclusive shows or Premium Shows our good filmmakers have really less to do since 2-3 weeks.
And also blog or forum like this have to loose from this situation because the discussion are only about more or less censorship and what is or not allowed. About this question I´ve my personal point of view but I think that in this moment it´s not so important for the existence of this area of the forum (ETV and what goes around it). Without photo and videos there is really less to discuss about... 
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It 's the same old speech; they try to hide their inability to lead a decent show calling on the changing times or the technologies that are renewed or other dementias .. but we know it and we do not cheat more!
Those who want to pay to have censorship, bad show and chandeliers always on top?? only a fool ... etv goodbye and this time for good! 
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i have paid 2 credits to see an exclusive, i have seen a ball of censure, censure only, only censure.and sometime the variant is censure, only censure
What beatufiful show!!! A wonderful show!!!! The universal catalog of censure, a show for total idiots, after paid the first time only an idiot pay again bye bye dear ETV, for me you are dead but don't be angry, there are a lot of idiots that love to be cheated by you |
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On ETVs website ( [hidden link - please register] ) I found this comment:
Some shared thoughtsIn general I share ETVs opinion. But they are ahead for time for maybe 5-10 years. Because old happits are changing slowly, very slowly. What I mean is, that even if there is the possibility to watch Live-TV via internet streams that viewers will go according to this option. At the moment on-demand media streaming only sets the stage for live streaming. No more, but no less. Exceptionally funny is this statement from ETV: Also, the TV regulations are unbearable. You see how the things in SKY are. You don’t know what the real situation there is. We should better not tell you.Did someone forced ETV to broadcast via SKY? No, it was/is their FREE decision! Hannes |
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Watcher wrote:To all of you advocating withholding your credits ...That’s only half the story. Any member who registers on ETV is opening an account comparable to a bank account. You give money and getting credits back. But as long as you don’t spend money for SMS, videos, Exlusive shows, ... ETV cannot debit credits from your ETV account. Which in turn means that you don’t buy NEW credits. And I’m sure that’s not what’s originally intended by ETV. Slowfox wrote:(...) ETV does not survive without income, and sharing the costs amongst all viewers rather then only a few, that were even harrassed by the free-riders for their stupidity to pay, is absolutely fair. In case ETV dies in lack of moneys the out cry will even be louder. In my opinion over the years ETV earned most of their money with (VIP) SMS and with phone calls. In the last one or two years it seems to me that this basis of their income has dropped more and more. Reasons may vary. Now ETV tries to find new ways to compensate this. So far so good. But lately ETV is asking to much from their viewers. Too many experiments and changes have happened in very short time. So it doesn’t really surprise me that the viewers don’t follow these changes. Slowfox wrote:(...) or move away from the fta transmission via Satellite completely to the internet or encrypt the Satellite signal and/or internet entirely to give access to viewers only for e.g. a monthly fee (...)I'm very sure that this would be the certain death of ETV. At least if the viewers won't see more explicit shows. Try me! Hannes |
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Amigo1205 wrote:Slowfox wrote:b) The shows have always been paid, i.e. by those sending their sms worth 4 credits each. believe this has been covered, and if I am not misled those paying for an sms will not be charged for the exclusive night Slowfox wrote:b) The shows have always been paid, i.e. by those sending their sms worth 4 credits each. |
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Slowfox wrote:b) The shows have always been paid, i.e. by those sending their sms worth 4 credits each. The difference now is, they pay 4 credits for SMS and 2 credits for their wish also to see. |
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love.giant wrote:......Do you really know what you are talking about?  [hidden image - please register] |
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What we have know is a web only show with a fta waiting room.
Personally i believe it would be better to split into 2 distinct shows. As has been stated webcam shows can be watched for free,and you can see endless amounts of different pussy if you wish,it will then be your wish to spend money or not. Eurotic is in effect a subsription webcam show because credits have to be purchased in advance. Bring back the old fta format based on conversation and keep the web shows seperate,and ditch that awful caption. |
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@ slowfox
if they were professional and their shooting artistically valid, then 2 credits would be a fair price and honest; but considering that the show fee are covered with censorship, then it is not worth even considering spending money unnecessarily ... etv is ruining not only the exclusive shows but also those of the second level (if it ever existed a second level ...). |
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to pay 2 credits is surely not the problem.
If I think about it I am not sure, that so many free-riders will pay the 2 credits or simply turn up the TV and watch some sites in the internet. on the other side how many potential customers are disturbed by the change from TV to Internet and back and say no I don't pay anymore for this thing. I want a real TV show and not banner telling me if you want to watch further you have to go to internet. But I don't know a real solution I have to admit. Let's see what will happen. |
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Well, people, quite an outburst for some 2 credits you are asked, but not forced to spend.
The biggest mistakes in assessing the situation are a) Like Watcher said, as soon as you buy credits ETV has your money and they cannot care less on what you spend your credits b) The shows have always been paid, i.e. by those sending their sms worth 4 credits each. The difference now is that all those who previously could see the shows for ‚free‘ are asked to share in the costs. I can fully understand that this is annoying for the free-riders sitting on their money, but I find it more then fair them now being asked to particpate in the costs. I say asked, not forced. And the argument it was always for free it shall continue to be for free is outweighed by above. It was never for free ! Someone always paid the bill. Now it changes from ‚someone‘ to ‚all, who want to see the show‘. ETV is not the Salvation Army (S.A.) and the girls are not their Salvationists taking care of everybodies needs for nothing. But then even the S.A. is asking for donations. Am not sure, but maybe one or the other of the sms senders can say whether they got back the 2 credits for the exclusive night once they asked for a show by a VIP sms. At least it was that way before, that the requester had his extra credit for the exclusive returned. This means the exclusive night is for any sms sender with a request free of charge. And please do not argue on the quality of the shows. This argument is not valid as the shows were always different. Some were good, some were bad, and this will continue even in the internet. It is just a matter of which team is there, which girls and what the general mood of the day is. In front of the camera and in front of the TV sets. ETV does not survive without income, and sharing the costs amongst all viewers rather then only a few, that were even harrassed by the free-riders for their stupidity to pay, is absolutely fair. In case ETV dies in lack of moneys the out cry will even be louder. I do not say that ETV is on the right track with what they presently do, but I can fully understand that they try to find ways and means to keep their business running and to avoid being out of pocket. Being in debts ultimately means either to fold ETV entirely, or move away from the fta transmission via Satellite completely to the internet or encrypt the Satellite signal and/or internet entirely to give access to viewers only for e.g. a monthly fee. Finally for myself. I personally do not spend any credits on any of the premium and/or exclusive shows with one single exception. And I will gladly give my 2 credits tonite, and be it only in her support. Have a great discussion day and an enjoyable night, and be fair and friendly to each other. Thank you!  Slow |
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from Enjoy The Vacuum-wall:
"ETV Team: Thank you for the positive feedback. It always means a lot. Feel free to join the Exclusive marathon on Friday and Saturday night, we can't wait to start. Regards, ETV" no comment... |
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