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Post: #1 Zuletzt bearbeitet: 08.06.2008, 14:12 07.06.2008, 22:00 * moved * Zita explains a little about the nudity rulesZita talks a little about the rules regarding nudity, I made the clip a little longer because Monna was also in the mix of things. |
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Post: #89 Zuletzt bearbeitet: 12.06.2008, 02:58 12.06.2008, 02:54 Re: * moved * Zita explains a little about the nudity rules
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Few bits watched today: Jenifer showed her breasts with handbra. Just reading Angie's lips "I can't", and soon "Bye". Now at ETV2 Gia & Patricia (of course laying on the bed). :))))) ETV1 totally unwatchable and totally unerotic. Crisis? What crisis? |
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to Mustafa: now i accept your comment 100 percent. That is the truth. Only some viewers from forums can´t pay her bills. Europe is so big and has so much citizens. And most of them are people in the midage 40+ who never ever had a PC. And they have money to pay the bills and calls. Sad but true Best regards and more fun with Sexysat or Football EM Markus, |
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we do not depart the topic. |
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bullshit if you onlytalk with girls go to ICQ chat rooms with cameras you will find a lot of girls also, |
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That means it could happen that a hot models get less than a soft model ( if a hot model is together with 6 softmodels in a show ; and a soft model is in a other show with 6 hot models ). To be back on topic : the question is that if the income of non nudity show is less than with a hot show. With 50.000 guys which just like to watch nude girls for free you earn nothing. And are there really so much calls for a request to see a girl nude ? let me ETV compare with the high class muschishow channel Redlips. They got calls ( just few but they got ). I didn't saw atleast 1 caller who wanted to see a girl nude !!! Not one ! all calls was from guys which just wanted to talk with the girls. On internet there is much more possible than on TV. So all the fans of hot nude girls could request for things which was never shown on TV !!! Not one guy wanted to see it. Not 1 guy did spend money to see it. So I really ask me why that should be a problem for ETV in the future ? and they have still the night ! how many vip sms the got in the morning and afternoon with requests to see a girl nude ? How many calls they got on the same time with requests to see a girl nude ? And think about it how many models there was who showed their nude body. If I take a look what a transponder cost ( they have 3 of them ) and how many Man-hours they must daily pay, then I guess that they need minimum 200.000 Euro turnover a month. So will it be no problem to loss daily 10 - 20 vip sms with requests of seeing a model nude and maybe 20 calls with this requests ? The most internet users in forums think that they are a big group with much influence. ( btw, RL also thought that ). But in reality we are just 100 potential callers ( cause 90 % never calls or send sms ) and for a channel like ETV it doesn't matter if they lose them. The Ex Deutsche Bank CEO would call us PEANUTS. And a final question on this topic : If the format from last year was so profitable as the most here think , then why should they shovels their own grave with exchange the profitalbe format to this format right now ? You think that they like to die and lost their jobs ? |
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The discussion about models' pay is in strictness off-topic and it may well have changed since I was advsised of the system. But for the sake of clarity I will try to explain how it was. The total wage pool depended on volume of calls/SMSs. So let's say the pool was 120 euro. If there were 3 models in the studio then a 100% splt meant that each received 40 euro. If one model was a soft model then her wage would be less so let's say it was 30 euro. That means there remains 10 euro to be divided amongst the other two at the discretion of the production team. The total wages are still 120 euro. Bring this up to date and a 'soft' model can well argue that she should be paid the same as the previously 'hot' girl because in practice before 23:00 they are all doing the same. Except that it did not neccessarily work out like that. The production team could assess the value of the soft model differently if for a particular show she kept her callers on the line longer and thus made more money. So then she deserved to be paid more. And that differential could still apply now. Back now on topic. I just reviewed my recording of Saturday evening. Zita made that announcement at 20:25 UK time. She entered the studio at 19:00 and then said words to the effect "We can make ALL your dreams come true and we can do it all night". One hour before that Malena and Desita were topless yet between that time and Zita's announcement, Desita was dancing with her breasts covered. Malena also appeared to have been stopped just be Zita's initial speech at 19:00. So there seems to have been some clear change of policy between 18:00 and 20:25. A mystery indeed. |
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Why we all discuss about them? A wise man said: If nobody talks about you this is something like a small dead. Okay, i can´t english so well but this was my translations. If we stop talking and watching they die a little dead and when the only callers and watchers who are not have internet this check, too. And like Mustafa said Alexa and Malena are sitting on the floor at ETV 2. The only difference like last week is that they fully dressed. I understand what he thinks. The fans don´t care about what they wear. But i cannot stand with the phrase about the nudity. When my favourite girl always is in the afternoonshow and she don´t work at the nightshow can i see her naked when the new kindergarden rules of ETV her doesn´t allow it? Think about that. There are so many girls who don´t work often at night. So you will never have the change to see this "hot" models naked. |
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@DB:
hmm---I have some difficulties to understand that (well, mathematics never was my strong point). I see a bit of contradiction here. When 'soft' models are paid less, what do you mean then that the total remains the same? The total would be (if x 'soft' and y 'hot' models in a show) x * soft-salary + y * hot-salary, isn't it? But then this amount would - independent of the hot or soft status - distributed among all models according to the amount of calls and SMS each one got? I hardly can believe that; it would be very complicated to to compute that. And every model would like to have as much 'hot' colleagues as possible in a show, because then the total will be higher. Again - I have my doubts. And my 'contact' says she knows nothing about a difference; well maybe she knows not all. |
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@ db you imagine a soft who has the same salary that hot is not normal. @ mustafa3 |
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Post: #79 Zuletzt bearbeitet: 11.06.2008, 17:05 11.06.2008, 16:56 Re: * moved * Zita explains a little about the nudity rules@ DB The thing is if they want tell you the truth ? I don't believe all which is said on TV. Especially what is said in a line for 2 Euro a minute. What I never will understand is that it is so interesting to see these girls nude. To over 80 % of the warm and hot models I must say : please hold on your clothes :))) For the rest I can say that this is not a special thing if they are nude or not, because they are since years here and always nude. Where is the charm to see that always and for 24 hours a day ? For example malena or alexa. They sitting or standing 5 hours topless there and nothing special happen. They just standing or sitting topless there. And this since years ! Anyone have a daily interest to see them for 5 hours topless ? For me it doesn't matter if there is model with clothes or without , if she works there since 3 years. Their body is really well known. Another thing are for example the vids of alexa. Here are many vids from solo nightshow. She is sitting nude there and talks to a guy. If you have seen one of this vids you know all, you don`t need the other vids because they all look like the same. So I like to ask all guys here what is so important that these girls show their titts 24/7 ? You have still the night and I think that is more than enought . or isn't it ? |
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The foot fetish people should be happy with the new rules, the foot shows on eUrotic tv are up several hundred percent! |
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Let me discount one theory being discussed here. The theory about models' pay. It is true that a designated 'soft' model earns less than a designated 'hot' model. So you might think that put 6 hot girls in a studio and make them perform as soft girls will mean that the channel pays less wages. No. The total wages paid out is the same whether they are soft models or hot models. It is based on volume of calls/SMSs. And each model could earn a variable amount due to the assessment of the production team. But I suspect now that they all get the same money as no one is doing more than another. So if the volume of calls/SMSs does fall as a result of this new concept then they do run a higher risk of losing even more models. |
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@ bill80 So you think a ugly hot model with just few calls get more than a soft model with many calls ? I heared that on E2 they get less than on E1. But that is all what I heared |
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