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Watcher wrote:

uk334 wrote:I do find it really strange that money is being asked for something that was free, and to be honest did anything speciall happen ?

I find it strange that you (and this is aimed at all of a similar persuasion, not just 'uk334') find this strange.
Firstly, the show was not actually free. You had to have some fraction of a minimum of 7 credits remaining. i.e. you had to give ETV some money at some point prior to watching the show.
Secondly, it is not uncommon for a seller to have a time limited offer where they give away something they usually sell and then revert to selling it again later.
Thirdly, why should they not charge for something they put time and effort, however small, into producing?

Do not have to take out, it was just a promotion to attract more customers
Euro Currency Converter for loans more attractive, but you could benefit from this once.
Once a year, one show of this kind will not lead them to fall.

Shirtfull wrote:Tonites premium, is through the Keyhole. Just saw a preview test when viewing Evah. 1/10 of the screen visible.

so only 10% blur.

uk334 wrote:I do find it really strange that money is being asked for something that was free, and to be honest did anything speciall happen ?

I find it strange that you (and this is aimed at all of a similar persuasion, not just 'uk334') find this strange.
Firstly, the show was not actually free. You had to have some fraction of a minimum of 7 credits remaining. i.e. you had to give ETV some money at some point prior to watching the show.
Secondly, it is not uncommon for a seller to have a time limited offer where they give away something they usually sell and then revert to selling it again later.
Thirdly, why should they not charge for something they put time and effort, however small, into producing?

Tonites premium, is through the Keyhole. Just saw a preview test when viewing Evah. 1/10 of the screen visible.

uk334 wrote:I do find it really strange that money is being asked for something that was free, and to be honest did anything speciall happen ?

btw: did anyone buy & download one of the offered shows?
is it the same "quality" as the webstream or is it really a nearly hd picture quality?

if the quality is better than the webstream (~ nearly the quality of the tv in the 70s) the quality will be the special.

stanislavskji wrote:well, i really dont understand why the posts became a phylosophical debate about who complaints or who not.

i criticized a well concrete thing,

in the birthday night, ETV decided to give for gift the free vision of the show to all subscribers.

now, to see the reply of an old free show, the subscribers must to pay, starting (...) by a fool price.

1. subscribers are not all worthy to the gift? not being able to see the show that night is a fault you must refund?

2. is it normal that a show live, and where you can interact with the models is free, and the registration of that show, old, and without interaction is very expensive?

my answer is NO to both questions.
I'd like an opinion on these, not about the complaints on average

I do find it really strange that money is being asked for something that was free, and to be honest did anything speciall happen ?

Watcher wrote:

uk334 wrote:

klemi wrote:Hello company...Well I just watched premium show, so after one hour and half of the totally sickest show ever....it started to develope a bit and actually Karry was the first who got totally naked. But why so bad in first 100 minutes or so? Last 20 cant save the impression show actually sucked big time. So ETV I agree is dying. Proof surely is that shows suck even with their 3 best models. But dont blame the models for ship going down. Actually this one was about someones suicide...Doesnt it really tell us all where the problem is???

Everyone is suprised at the outcome of etv web shows, you know the story they are well documented yet you all still pay for this rubbish.
etv are sly parasites that want to dupe it's customers at every single opportunity, hence 100 mins of money for nothing and then the little carrot at the end to get you to come back.

C'mon guys stop the donations and stop the web shows, customer is king, no customers no revenue

I find the statements made by 'uk334' to be rather confused and lacking in substance but the final sentence does highlight a very pertinent fact ...
Yes, the customer is king. The fact that the web shows continue demonstrates that they have revenue from customers. The limited support you have for this often repeated boycott idea, probably from non-paying viewers, will have no impact.
Of course, you know this but you do like to have your say. Nothing wrong with that. But this does then beg the question of why you are so against ETV? A bad experience in the past? ... More speculation to follow?

No bad experiences , although wasting my money several times does not help. I have followed etv for a long time, and you kind of get a feeling of the character and philosophy of some businesses, those you do not like, then do not give them your custom, those you do, then buy their product or services.

Yes the web shows are continuing and so are the complaints, hence me reminding viewers who have complained to stop buying into it, why are you suprised !
If viewers continue to pay for webshows then absolutely fine. You are obviously quite happy with them. I addressed my comments to those who have paid and are unhappy with them.

well, i really dont understand why the posts became a phylosophical debate about who complaints or who not.

i criticized a well concrete thing,

in the birthday night, ETV decided to give for gift the free vision of the show to all subscribers.

now, to see the reply of an old free show, the subscribers must to pay, starting (...) by a fool price.

1. subscribers are not all worthy to the gift? not being able to see the show that night is a fault you must refund?

2. is it normal that a show live, and where you can interact with the models is free, and the registration of that show, old, and without interaction is very expensive?

my answer is NO to both questions.
I'd like an opinion on these, not about the complaints on average

Slowfox wrote:

kolokotronis wrote:

Slowfox wrote:some people really remind me of pavlov's dogs.

they are so predictable that it gets boring. ring a certain bell and they start to bark, drool, or make sit up and beg for some goodies of their mates,

and this all for nothing, or for something which should basically be some fun or kind of hobby

but I see that many take it too serious and personal and I do not figure why. why so frustrated and unhappy ?

well, you may have your reasons.

slow

Is this a comment about you or for someone else?

see what I mean ?

Yes.Good night

kolokotronis wrote:... I can found many people who complain about etv but only few who defend them

Actually on the long term it gets boring to comment any complaint.
If you are happy with complaining about ETV why should I try to make you unhappy? As long as it doesn't turn into insults feel free to criticise.
But who complains shouldn't get sad or angry if someone else reverses with facts.

Regards
Joker

kolokotronis wrote:

Slowfox wrote:some people really remind me of pavlov's dogs.

they are so predictable that it gets boring. ring a certain bell and they start to bark, drool, or make sit up and beg for some goodies of their mates,

and this all for nothing, or for something which should basically be some fun or kind of hobby

but I see that many take it too serious and personal and I do not figure why. why so frustrated and unhappy ?

well, you may have your reasons.

slow

Is this a comment about you or for someone else?

see what I mean ?

Slowfox wrote:some people really remind me of pavlov's dogs.

they are so predictable that it gets boring. ring a certain bell and they start to bark, drool, or make sit up and beg for some goodies of their mates,

and this all for nothing, or for something which should basically be some fun or kind of hobby

but I see that many take it too serious and personal and I do not figure why. why so frustrated and unhappy ?

well, you may have your reasons.

slow

Is this a comment about you or for someone else?

some people really remind me of pavlov's dogs.

they are so predictable that it gets boring. ring a certain bell and they start to bark, drool, or make sit up and beg for some goodies of their mates,

and this all for nothing, or for something which should basically be some fun or kind of hobby

but I see that many take it too serious and personal and I do not figure why. why so frustrated and unhappy ?

well, you may have your reasons.

slow

kolokotronis wrote:So interesting theoria. What is written on etv wall is it a fact? On etv wall there are only happy viewers , with fantastic, artistic shows ,is it a fact? I dont think so

Of course is all what is written on the ETV wall a fact, but not the complete facts. For sure they get a lot of complaints, but none company would use the negative things for advertising.
Please show me only 1 advertising in the whole capitalistic world, which is not exaggerated positive. ETV is doing nothing different, than every supermarket around the corner.

All for one and one for all