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9 Euros, or 150 Euros or more for me are really too much money, in consideration of the poverty of the service offered, the mediocrity of the models and the absolute unreliability of the ETV team.

This seems to become more and more a show for old pensioners only, ready to spend a bit 'of money in exchange for young flesh, whatever it is.


The summer is coming, the beaches near my house are full of women and girls who want to have fun and, guess what, no credits to pay for them.


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outside wrote:Easy, just give them 160€ in a row.
A bit hard to me and I think for every people who have to work to live.
Maybe easy to first class flyers.

Think what you want, do what you want, but don't say it's not expensive, firstofall because it isn't true and mainly because it's unrespectful to working people.

Cappuccino and croissant, I have already heard this words. It just was another britpop band (radiohead).
I usually have my breakfast at home to save money, and when I have a coffee at bar I spend 80c (1€ because I usually leave 20c as tip for bar boy, since I respect working people).
2€ for a coffee just at Starbucks, thank God not in my hometown.

so we learn that first class flyers aren't working. interesting pov.

but back to topic. yes, I agree, 160€ sound like a lot of money.
but while I think e.g. about something at the pc or at the car to be replaced (not always needed parts of them) or about a month with 3 soccer matches at home (match time less than 6 hours but longer total time with leaving home 2-3 before the match, 3 hours in the stadium and being back at home in the night after some liters of mineral water) I must confess that 160€ are so easily spent.
or I remember a discussion about the price of a Premium Show some month ago. iirc a complete evening a 2€ show was discussed in the forum and my only thought was that I was away for 1 hour and drinking 3 beers at that time. each beer for 2.70€ so that I gave 10€ after that hour with 3 beer and nearly the complete price of a show was given for a girl who was working for that money ~ 2 mins.

of course 160€ sound like a lot of money and of course 2€ aren't for free, too.
but I'm sure that everyone and so also your working people outside the planes spend very often 2€ easily, either in the supermarket for sweets, alcohol or other unhealthy shit, not needed shit, while being out, for a hobby or because of lazyness.

and it's again the personal decision if I want to spend this money for something I'm interested in or not.
so if anyone isn't able to spend 2€ it's ok and I'm sorry for him. but everyone who spends so easily 2€ at other places without thinking for a second about it shouldn't complain for hours about 2€ for a webshow that he wants to see. this is missing respect for working people.


PS: I have my breakfast @home, too. first of all it's cheaper, it's enough for my hunger, it's probably more healthy and it's a pleasure to bake my own bread and to brew up my coffee manually.
also I don't want to spend 1.50 - 2 euro for a bap nor 1€ or more for a coffee because I would have to pay too much money for something I often don't like or that doesn't smell as good as it could.
and especially I don't like to spend my money for a coffee-milk composition @Starbucks (usually 3.50 - 4.50 euro, so maybe even more expensive than in italy) because the price of that composition is inversely proportional to the delivered quality. you in italy as weel as we in germany have better coffee. but it's ok for me to spend ~2€in the afternoon for an Espresso (of course with the glass of tap water for free) while sitting in the sun and relaxing from work or during the lunch break. so no problem to spend money (of course not every amount) for something I like but only for things I like.
it's easily to understand if someone doesn't like the german fta erotic channels and also about etv everyone must take his own decision but he should be consequent and fair in his decisions, too.

In a democracy, everyone is free to express their thoughts.
And exchange of ideas and mutual respect of the person who states that are based advanced civilizations that lead to democratic forms of government peaceful calls the comparison is fair and should be accepted.

Easy, just give them 160€ in a row.
A bit hard to me and I think for every people who have to work to live.
Maybe easy to first class flyers.

Think what you want, do what you want, but don't say it's not expensive, firstofall because it isn't true and mainly because it's unrespectful to working people.

Cappuccino and croissant, I have already heard this words. It just was another britpop band (radiohead).
I usually have my breakfast at home to save money, and when I have a coffee at bar I spend 80c (1€ because I usually leave 20c as tip for bar boy, since I respect working people).
2€ for a coffee just at Starbucks, thank God not in my hometown.

I pay by bank transfer my credits zero commissions 160 € 150 credits cost per credit cost of credit 1. 1 euro there are shows with a model that cost 2 credits two Euros.
I do not think it's a robbery spend € 2 to see their own model for 1 hour engaged in an entertaining and erotic maybe a cup of coffee costs more.

15102004 wrote:6 credit are 9€ more then any important, new and expensive cinematography production in all Warner Willage (in Italy at least), the past weeks with premium shows had an average of 38/40 credits, more than 50€ so more than one monthly subcription of Sky or any other bouquet with tens of channels (also erotic) so IMHO, if there are people who likes ETV no problem, but for me this is a robbery and i think i'm not alone.

it's already been said that compairing etv with e.g. Warner is senseless thus I don't need to add anything to this point.
and of course you'll always find an example that is cheaper and of course you'll find a more expensive example, too.

the only question is this:
are you willing to spend any money for anything you are interested in or not?

you can get ... hmmm ... lets call it bad product(ions) everywhere. on tv, in cinema, in sports or at concerts. you often don't know what you'll get especially at live events as the etv webshows are.
thus you'll always have to accept the risk to be disapponted and to feel like having lost money. but you also know that for all events someone must invest money to let this event happen and everyone/ most want to earn some money with their events. and without anyone who spends money most events won't happen.

thus: do you accept that money must be invested and spent or do you want all for free?

it's a general decision and answer for many situations in life. it's the public musician on the street, it's for your heard music and watched movies, it's for most hobbies. do you spend money for what you like or you are interested in or not?
you must find very often your decision and not only for etv and it's shows. you know that etv isn't a social facility for physical relaxation, it's a business company (although they too often don't act as one).
do you accept this with all consequences or not? that's it.

When you go to the cinema or theater? And what you see, does not repeat! But I do not want you to think that I'm happy with the prices, it's not, but for good performance include the price. Also evaluate the performance of individual cases is a matter of individual.

verve66 wrote:It depends on how many credits you buy and how you buy 6 credits are those who say that 9 euro perhaps never bought credits and perhaps never bought anything from ETV criticize but knows very well

Paying by credit card, the cheapest package of 10credits, 6 credits=9,6 euros and paying the most expensive package of 160 credits, 6 credits= 7,61 euros. Not a huge difference. Anyway, even buying the most expensive package, i think 7,61 euros for a show like that it is too much, but not because the models or the duration, but the quality of the show, the lightning, the camera job...and the way they show us the erotic action. Nothing "extraordinary" as they were promoting. Sorry. My opinion.,Maybe you think it was a really good show and the price was very good. It´s ok, but there can be another opinions from people who has bought many shows and think different.

The channels transmit erotic film even low cost with a certain repetition.
This is also an argument sensation no logical connection.

It depends on how many credits you buy and how you buy 6 credits are those who say that 9 euro perhaps never bought credits and perhaps never bought anything from ETV criticize but knows very well

Compare an erotic show done by a small production company in an American movie is absurd and inconceivable, has no logical sense an argument unnecessary and unfounded.
At most you can compare to a theatrical performance.
As for SKY and repetitive on scheduling.

Wilsonsand wrote:I am watching a little bit this new "Candlelight Evenings" ELS system..and nothing new and nothing better for me, or i would say it is even worst. At least we could see the models legs before, now the table avoid it.

You don't understand the artistic intension: the table hides - but your imagination will tell you everything - for example Alice put off her slip behind the table - and for all people with a strong imagination it would have been enough to interprete her moves .... but then she showed it to the audience - what an artistic mistake - seems that she didn't understand, too

yes, and maybe the most important thing is what they offer in return, because in my opinion the saturday show it was not a great show, but the typical crowded-show questionably lit, where the confussion reigns most of the times if there are more than 3 models and where the cam is so often bad placed. It´s my opinion. Maybe i am wrong, but it´s what i see in this kind of shows with so many models. The recent bohemian were much better than this, with better lighting, better erotic actions...but it´s only my personal opinion.

verve66 wrote:Personally I am not in tune with those who criticize anyway. The criticism for shows on the Web has always been huge, but they did good shows and have also enabled users to develop simple ideas and see them implemented.
In this forum do nothing but criminalize the models that make web shows that are not even expensive.
There is a profound difference from doing with respect to the WEB TV shows, modeling on the web can do acting to complete a project does not always have the obligation to respond to calls Outbox. He who truly loves ETV also loves shows the WEB Saturdays they have done a great two hour show for 6 credits is not even a robbery.

6 credit are 9€ more then any important, new and expensive cinematography production in all Warner Willage (in Italy at least), the past weeks with premium shows had an average of 38/40 credits, more than 50€ so more than one monthly subcription of Sky or any other bouquet with tens of channels (also erotic) so IMHO, if there are people who likes ETV no problem, but for me this is a robbery and i think i'm not alone.

I am watching a little bit this new "Candlelight Evenings" ELS system..and nothing new and nothing better for me, or i would say it is even worst. At least we could see the models legs before, now the table avoid it. In terms of show ELS only depends on the models (you know it is possible if the model is Mashiara or Aida, unlikely or impossible if the model is everyone else), but now ELS are even more static and more boring, and the romantic atmosphere is a little candle and a glass of water on the table (more candles and wine and food if the fan pay for it?)... so in my opinion the show is even poorer than before. Without premiums and with these poor ELS, at least this week ETV has given to offer any kind of web-show. I don´t know if it´s their strategy for the future, and I won´t say it is not profitable for ETV with the reserved and the callings from the fans, even more if there are gifts like flowers and another store products, but in terms of show and eroticism i don´t know where they are going, honestly.