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i will tell you how shamefully ETV censor and manipulate the messages on the wall. Last tuesday 17th Jun replying dago, they wrote this: "...The truth is that many of the girls decided not to perform in Premiums shortly after the discussion on the wall where some viewers declared that said girls must not be in those shows because are too soft for them. You can see the discussion "Premiums" and "Premiums/2" on page 5..."

Well, it´s easy to check NOBODY "declared" anything like that. It was so easy than reading discussion "Premiums" and "Premiums/2" on page 5. In fact, nobody said something like that. It was an intentional lie, again blaming customers.I decided to write to them. I sent this original message:

"hi ETV! i´ve read carefully all the comments you are referring and nobody "declared that said girls must not be in those shows because are too soft for them". Nobody said so and nobody asked to remove them of the schedules, at least on the wall. See: Eddi talked about Lauren, Giorgio said the shows were getting "softer", he said "new models are always shy and soft" and he finally said "I am sure the models now are very beautiful and also hot and I hope you will give us lots of hot PH in the future". Lorenzo asked for "more interaction between the girls, more hot situations". Neither a single complain about new models by Silent Pain, just "premiums on the internet are much softer than the shows on TV". As you can see, nobody declared the girls "must not be in those shows", people was just expecting for less soft shows, nothing more. That is also understable i think. I agree models need time to adapt, and i am sure they need shows in which they can feel comfortable, but you must give them some chance. I fear the chroma shows were not the most ideal shows to get that self-confidence with so much direction and so many people there, and neither some unfortunate pairings. It was very strange six models at same time quitting all together: you say a individual/common position against doing premiums because dissatisfaction with the customers, maybe dissatisfaction with premium shows itself? with the way of making them? solidarity between them? don´t know, anyway i really think it was a disproportionate reaction to a few critics if that´s the true reason.

I also think the models have more reasons to do premiums than refusing them. We all can read much more praising comments than complaining ones: read "Daytime Premium Shows" and "New Models" on page 4, and read the avalanche of praises for them and for the fantastic exclusive live shower shows they did and you can find in the wall: a lot in "Congratulations for this Shower Shows week" and "The Gratest Shower Shows" on page 2. As you see, more praises than complains. We all could see how these girls made fantastic shows under the shower, so now we know they are able to perform at least to that level, and you could see we all were satisfied with them. We all want these models, we all like them, and we all like good shows. I hope you and the models can take the right comments to go ahead and make good shows for us, more comfortable (not so technical or script demmanding) shows for the models and their chance to prove it and a chance for us to enjoy them. I think we all can win with it."

the day after my message was posted on the wall, but seriously cut, manipulated, censored and changed the meaning of the more important part. You can see what they did with my message in this page:

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As, you can see, when i said " i´ve read carefully all the comments you are referring", ETV changed to "After reading carefully some comments" . After that they completely delete all of this: "nobody "declared that said girls must not be in those shows because are too soft for them". Nobody said so and nobody asked to remove them of the schedules, at least on the wall. See: Eddi talked about Lauren, Giorgio said the shows were getting "softer", he said "new models are always shy and soft" and he finally said "I am sure the models now are very beautiful and also hot and I hope you will give us lots of hot PH in the future". Lorenzo asked for "more interaction between the girls, more hot situations". Neither a single complain about new models by Silent Pain, just "premiums on the internet are much softer than the shows on TV". As you can see, nobody declared the girls "must not be in those shows"," I was trying to prove they were lying, but they didn´t allow me to post the refferences for keeping the lie safe.

After the hack, they did this: after the already changed sentence "After reading carefully some comments" they added this which i didn´t say , very different than my original meaning: "and I believe that nobody thinks that these girls must not be in those shows," and joined my "people was just expecting for less soft shows, nothing more". As you can see, they cut, invent, copy and paste where and when they want.

After that, they deleted this part: " don´t know, anyway i really think it was a disproportionate reaction to a few critics if that´s the true reason"

As you can see, they first lied, and after that they cut the part of the text that was talking about the lie.

When i read that, i got angry, because so much censorship, so much manipulation that changed completely the meaning of the first part of my message, so i sent a message to Christine, dennouncing the censorship and asking her to post my complete original message or deleting the manipulated one i don´t recognize as mine. The day after i received a fast reply from her: "i will check this, please be aware that I will probably have results tomorrow. I will keep you in touch"

Well, i´ve been waiting and no news from her after 5 days, The manipulated message is still on the wall, it has been not corrected or deleted as i asked her to do, and even after writing her again on friday 20, there is no reply and no "touch".This is the shameful, disrespectful way this scoundrel people respect our opinions, and this is the non-existent respect to us. I´ve been waiting all these days to any reply from them, but now that the message is hidden in the second page of the wall i am sure they won´t reply and the lie has remained even when i dennounced just in the day.

It´s not the first time they censor any of my messages (once they did another exercise of shame censorhip with a comment about Aida) but this time it was too much, at least i wanted to tell it here, and you all know what kind of liars they are.

Sorry for so long message. Regards.

Dreamlander wrote:

vector wrote:In the preview for today's premium show there is again a warning.

Tonight we will have a classical show, where the girls’ only task is to be true in what they do.
We forewarn you that this is an experiment that could have an unexpected result.

Uuuui, what could it be? Will we see some naked women? Or nothing? Who knows? Mysterious warning.

Yep, the usual pretentious, 'Bohemian' claptrap spouted entirely for the benefit and enjoyment of those within ETV's 'inner circle' of power. A warning to those potential customers that their own involvement and entertainment is not high on the list of priorities of those taking part. In fact, I think it was removed from the 'long form' of Premium shows a long time ago, along with many of the most desirable models outside of the 'inner sanctum'.

I'll stick with the 15 minute shows where it is still possible to feel that you are in some way involved as a viewer, and even the focus of, the girl/girls performing the shows.

Dreamlander

For the premium shows here is the signs I see for me personally

in general, in lack of interest:
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any show with Angelina, regardless of who else participates:
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well, there is only one who tells me:
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Slow

Dreamlander wrote:

vector wrote:In the preview for today's premium show there is again a warning.

Tonight we will have a classical show, where the girls’ only task is to be true in what they do.
We forewarn you that this is an experiment that could have an unexpected result.

Uuuui, what could it be? Will we see some naked women? Or nothing? Who knows? Mysterious warning.

Yep, the usual pretentious, 'Bohemian' claptrap spouted entirely for the benefit and enjoyment of those within ETV's 'inner circle' of power. A warning to those potential customers that their own involvement and entertainment is not high on the list of priorities of those taking part. In fact, I think it was removed from the 'long form' of Premium shows a long time ago, along with many of the most desirable models outside of the 'inner sanctum'.

I'll stick with the 15 minute shows where it is still possible to feel that you are in some way involved as a viewer, and even the focus of, the girl/girls performing the shows.

Dreamlander

Well I watched Sandra this morning DPS nice performance but not even one shot of her pussy at all, she was looking at the person behind the camera like a little schoolgirl. I was wondering if there is more censorship involved since I didnt watch last weeks shows, also anyone see last nights premium show?

vector wrote:In the preview for today's premium show there is again a warning.

Tonight we will have a classical show, where the girls’ only task is to be true in what they do.
We forewarn you that this is an experiment that could have an unexpected result.

Uuuui, what could it be? Will we see some naked women? Or nothing? Who knows? Mysterious warning.

Yep, the usual pretentious, 'Bohemian' claptrap spouted entirely for the benefit and enjoyment of those within ETV's 'inner circle' of power. A warning to those potential customers that their own involvement and entertainment is not high on the list of priorities of those taking part. In fact, I think it was removed from the 'long form' of Premium shows a long time ago, along with many of the most desirable models outside of the 'inner sanctum'.

I'll stick with the 15 minute shows where it is still possible to feel that you are in some way involved as a viewer, and even the focus of, the girl/girls performing the shows.

Dreamlander

..."one of our viewers accused us of being too “theatrical”, today the models will not act."

it seems one guy opinion has a huge influence, right? who can believe them? they have received countless critics like that and they don´t (and they won´t) stop doing it. So the reason must be another very different. Maybe because Danielle has been replaced, lack of ideas, no preparation, who knows... vector, I wish you a good show and they turn the lights on! (blurry screen seems very very dark)

In the preview for today's premium show there is again a warning.

Tonight we will have a classical show, where the girls’ only task is to be true in what they do.
We forewarn you that this is an experiment that could have an unexpected result.

Uuuui, what could it be? Will we see some naked women? Or nothing? Who knows? Mysterious warning.

I would like to thank the members who took their time to answer
my problem with the streaming I had earlier, much appreciated!!
as you are probably aware it is now resolved!! thank you for your
time and interest, regards to all!

Slowfox wrote:

bigalathome wrote:thank you my friend I am running windows XP aspect ratio
should be in the settings is that correct i am afraid of
losing all my data!!!?? regards

It is an issue with ETV and not at your end.

It is simply that the window they use to broadcast the video is too big on the lower end. They have to setup the page that it fits properly.

However, if you find it disturbing start the capture and play the stream in VLC player as it has the option to crop.

I sent an e-mail to ETV asking whether this can be corrected.

Apparently it has been corrected

bigalathome wrote:Good Morning Guys, I am not very "computer wise" I am not technically minded I need help
with the new webstream, can someone help me please!!?? Ever since the new stream
was introduced, I have a very clear image but along the bottom of the screen I have a thin
black line with quite a few small white arrow "dancing around!!" does anybody know how to
get rid of them please!! your assistance is Required!! Help regards

it is a problem to be addressed by ETV and not us!
I see that they already have the note not interrupting ....

bigalathome wrote:thank you my friend I am running windows XP aspect ratio
should be in the settings is that correct i am afraid of
losing all my data!!!?? regards

It is an issue with ETV and not at your end.

It is simply that the window they use to broadcast the video is too big on the lower end. They have to setup the page that it fits properly.

However, if you find it disturbing start the capture and play the stream in VLC player as it has the option to crop.

I sent an e-mail to ETV asking whether this can be corrected.

thank you my friend I am running windows XP aspect ratio
should be in the settings is that correct i am afraid of
losing all my data!!!?? regards

bigalathome wrote:Good Morning Guys, I am not very "computer wise" I am not technically minded I need help
with the new webstream, can someone help me please!!?? Ever since the new stream
was introduced, I have a very clear image but along the bottom of the screen I have a thin
black line with quite a few small white arrow "dancing around!!" does anybody know how to
get rid of them please!! your assistance is Required!! Help regards

Not arrows ,but etv's mouse pointer. (They need to set up their source AR)

To get rid of them, you'll have to crop(will change aspect ratio) and re-encode.

Good Morning Guys, I am not very "computer wise" I am not technically minded I need help
with the new webstream, can someone help me please!!?? Ever since the new stream
was introduced, I have a very clear image but along the bottom of the screen I have a thin
black line with quite a few small white arrow "dancing around!!" does anybody know how to
get rid of them please!! your assistance is Required!! Help regards

brudgon wrote:

slava64 wrote:

brudgon wrote:excuse me slava if i quote your post but alleluja? i can't record etv tonight and i don't know why

My friend Brudgon tell me please what program you are using for record video and maybe I can help you

i use rtmpdump and since last night worked well...but today and tonight don't work....others channels works well with rtmpdump

Then it is very easy and simple to fix this problem
In a batch file must change the thread number here so:
(was: etvshow.com/?action=sms&q=2" -y "etvshow_2"
must be now: etvshow.com/?action=sms&q=3" -y "etvshow_3")
instead 2 must be 3
And you can record stream again in HD

brudgon wrote:excuse me slava if i quote your post but alleluja? i can't record etv tonight and i don't know why

the new command is "rtmp://5.10.77.106/livepkgr/etvshow_3"

3 instead of 2!