Eurotic TV - General Discussion

Hello Vappiano,

The only thing I can imagine is that governments forbid these kind of television
like they forbid certain gambling because people get addicted to it and spent all there money on it (this is real love to ETV and the models)
But then they have to forbid a lot of things in this field.
I don't think that it would happen (income per tax) and that I would like it to be forbidden.

bigboy24 wrote:Hello Vappiano68,

maybe it's not a question to me but somehow it goes too far for me.
a person is not a car. And a model is a human being you can't buy a person.

If a model don't want to do something simply don't write anymore.
ETV always said a model must not do something she don't want to do
I can't imagine that you have any legal possibilities you write on your own risk.

Hi Bigboy,
thank you for your reply.
Yes, surely, a woman is not a car !
But you don't buy the woman, you spend money for her service.
You're right, people write at their own risk, and this is what puts ETV in a strong position, the fact that they know to work in a field that it's different from traditional market, a field where, for the the customer, is very difficult to see his rights respected.
But this was exactly the conclusion of my point 3 which, according to HvB, is far away from reality.

3) How many unfulfilled requests every night? Or requests fulfilled in a bad way?
Not only vipsmss, but also calls-requests (and Jonas, who thanked your post, knows this fact very well).
In every field when you spend money for something you have the right to get what you pay for in the best conditions,
What would you do if you buy a new Bmw and the seller, before you take it away, enjoys in beating out your new car with a 5 Kgs hammer?
But Etv's customers are different, and this puts Etv in a strong position towards them.
Isn't it?

Hello Vappiano68,

maybe it's not a question to me but somehow it goes too far for me.
a person is not a car. And a model is a human being you can't buy a person.

If a model don't want to do something simply don't write anymore.
ETV always said a model must not do something she don't want to do
I can't imagine that you have any legal possibilities you write on your own risk.

HvB wrote:

vappiano68 wrote:The reason is another: ETV has probably other plans for the future.
It's all a matter of business:

- "Cold beauties" are cheaper
- "Cold beauties" can receive calls and smss also for a request of "showing their knees". Nobody would make such a request to Angelina...
- ETV knows that almost surely nobody, among the customers, will take a legal action against ETV even if they don't get what they pay for.

A lot of theories again (and of course as usual far away from reality) ...

Thanks God that King of Molvania HvB is the only one who can see the truth !

But since I've always been a willing student, I'd like to know something more about this.
For esample:

1) Scarlet's retribution during 2009 (soft) was the same she got during 2010 ?
So,please, tell me the reason for which we see some naked models: Is it pure exhibitionism if the wages are the same?

2) Often I see "Brona, my love, please, show me your belly".
I never saw such a request for Angelina.Isn't it?

3) How many unfulfilled requests every night? Or requests fulfilled in a bad way?
Not only vipsmss, but also calls-requests (and Jonas, who thanked your post, knows this fact very well).
In every field when you spend money for something you have the right to get what you pay for in the best conditions,
What would you do if you buy a new Bmw and the seller, before you take it away, enjoys in beating out your new car with a 5 Kgs hammer?
But Etv's customers are different, and this puts Etv in a strong position towards them.
Isn't it?

Please, let me see some ray of your dazzling light ,
so that I can understand how far I'm from "the truth" (as usual)...

new girls in the nigth show no old girl I don't wacth evt last 2 nigth bored and bad show specially carry's show new girl new girl new girl please

Watcher wrote:@Yasmine1
To save space I will not quote your post, it is clear to see below.
Whilst I may disagree with the conclusions you draw, often out of thin air, I will not argue over your observations.
You did, however, fail to reach a solid conclusion, so let me offer one ...
eUrotic TV has chosen it's path and is moving relentlessly along it.
Those who enjoy the journey, will stay with them. Those who don't, will leave.
... hint .

You already sound like an ETV manager or white knight from your every single post; don't try too hard or someone might get the wrong idea! ;)
And don't feel too hard if I kindly refuse your generous advice.

On more important matters:

bigboy24 wrote:I know there are many reasons why viewers don't want to see naked girls

That might be true, but is so wrong on many grounds I won't even start to discuss it.

bigboy24 wrote:Viewers the girls don't l.o.v.e you they do there job for money.

You're talking to a wall of concrete: nothing will stop them from doing this, as long as they can live in such a dream (and have the money for it), they are not going to stop.
And honestly, while I do agree that many would like to see a strip request rather than a "I love you! Please promise me you'll never get naked! OMG I have no more SMS left, I'm so sorry I can't call you tonight." message, it is their money and they can do what they want with it. While to us it may look like wasted money, it might be the only source of happiness for those people.

bigboy24 wrote:If she said she wants to stay a decent girl she should leave the channel.

That is a bit too drastic for me: like I said in another topic, I'd never criticize Joanna nor Kleopatra, whether I like them or not, because they made perfectly clear what they want to do in this channel and, more importantly, never gave moral speech about the inflation of nakedness and such things. That is what annoyed me the most. Again, if this had been a dayshow, nobody - me included - would have said a single word.

I try to keep things simple.
If the show is good I watch it and pay for it and if not I don't. And soft models in the nightshow are useless, because I like most of the viewers I think want to see naked girls.
I know there are many reasons why viewers don't want to see naked girls but one thing is important to know for all of them.

Viewers the girls don't l.o.v.e you they do there job for money. If they would love you they would give you your private number and ask you not to call here anymore.
it's entertainment nothing more and if someone of the girls try to teach me what is erotic and what is not and is not ready to show anything she is doing a bad job in my opinion.
If she said she wants to stay a decent girl she should leave the channel. This business always had to do with cheating otherwise it won't work. So take care and don't let them cheat you too much.

I think that most of the viewers want to have good entertainment, so only softshows won't be very successful. ETV can try this again and again but it won't work.

Watcher wrote:eUrotic TV has chosen it's path and is moving relentlessly along it.
Those who enjoy the journey, will stay with them. Those who don't, will leave.
... hint .

Yeah, right...and hopefully a lot of them will leave so they will have to start making decent shows again.

...hint

vappiano68 wrote:The reason is another: ETV has probably other plans for the future.
It's all a matter of business:

- "Cold beauties" are cheaper
- "Cold beauties" can receive calls and smss also for a request of "showing their knees". Nobody would make such a request to Angelina...
- ETV knows that almost surely nobody, among the customers, will take a legal action against ETV even if they don't get what they pay for.

A lot of theories again (and of course as usual far away from reality) ...

@Yasmine1
To save space I will not quote your post, it is clear to see below.
Whilst I may disagree with the conclusions you draw, often out of thin air, I will not argue over your observations.
You did, however, fail to reach a solid conclusion, so let me offer one ...
eUrotic TV has chosen it's path and is moving relentlessly along it.
Those who enjoy the journey, will stay with them. Those who don't, will leave.
... hint .

The following was extracted from Karrys thread but I think my update belongs to this thread

baabababa wrote:Like she said " Erotic is not getting naked, its teasing and filling Fantasy of a Person"

She is simply conveying a message ETV is trying to sell from the beginning of the year getting softer month after month !!!! Having said that I myself don't like this hypocrisy and I wrote about this years ago.. Karry is not the first to do so even hot Randa did it a few years ago and there were others like Tia , Sabrina who tried to sell us this issue about non nudity so don't kill the messenger .... As I said a few weeks/days ago now are different times and this is what ETV is trying sell and hence the focus on Gold members i.e members who are in love or love the model viewers who are suffering from the same symptoms like other people who are in love - the craving to talk to their loved ones day after day for hours send unlimited sms's and accept the fact or message the model is selling them (Evah is good with this message "if you really love me you will not ask me to undress") ... obviously this is dangerous as these people one day will wakeup with a severe hangover and a big hole in their pocket but this is life and love... ETV gold is giving the viewers the possibility to talk more for less but obviously ETV is building on the "more" of this equation so in fact the viewers are spending more as they think its cheap but the bottom line is they spend more than they planned to spend. Just look on Karrys fan that keeps sending SMS's and probably is on the phone a lot and later you see he can't speak or send any more messages because he used the whole package and this drives him crazy and you probably know what happens next you run to renew the package ... i am sure this reminds you something totality different but its the same ....
So in summary this is ETV this is why they bring hot models from the outside (like temps or fillers) even though they have in-house models that can do the job ! so in the future when ETV completes its transformation you'll have only new dressed models or former hot and now dressed models that most viewers (beside us the hardcore) ever knew or saw them totally naked.
Will this strategy succeed ? God knows but for sure its an experiment and for the moment this is what the FTA viewers are gonna get ...

pool theme? so all girls standing in one place all show? im afraid that next theme will "looking into the sky" where all girls will just sit and look up i wanna old gold times

Soft or hot show ....It doesn't really matter .

As yesterday's was a new event in ETV world ( At least in this year ) the first night show, with a complete fully dressed stuff . I suppose that it needs some space to discussed .

And believe it or not ….it didn't take so much time with me …but I was really a little bit curious to know how all the softies will earn the bet …did they ????

Well , I must admit that I am a fan of the hot shows ….but at the same time I also can appreciate the real sensual and beautiful soft shows .

So , with respect to last's night show …..I guess that We can conclude that Karry has already joined the club of ….the negative soft statues …..beside Brona , Evah , Cleopatra ,

And before anyone says it , nothing against them , and I do respect their decision….but quite frankly I can't stand someone who spent more than 3 years working in an erotic channel and performs in sometimes the night shows , and still refuses even to appear in bikini .

Back to last night's show , I suppose that the show could have been more successful and acceptable from all levels of recipients , if it was provided in such more professional and sensual way .

Good and suitable theme for the night show ( for example the very interesting theme of the beach show ) ..... skillful director who is able to create such a real erotic atmosphere .... and willing and enthusiastic models could be a little bit more bolder without being fully nude .

The main point is... to make your show really interesting and watchable ...whether it's soft or hot …because in so many times the soft shows could be more commercially successful and also at the same time very satisfying for the different kind of recipients.

In my humble opinion , I think the year of 2011 wasn't that bad ….it contains many hot and explicit shows ( if you don't believe return to the records ) beside the soft and the teasing shows ….but it was all uninteresting , and away from the creative level . for that everybody keep complain .

In all cases ... If this is the new direction for ETV at least for once per week , I would say ... it's welcome …but it's very important and inevitable to make these kind of the soft shows survive....Is to present A real planned and interesting show with a suitable and likable theme .

And most of all , the members of ...the negative soft statues club.. must be completely excluded ...sorry but they have already lost the bet yesterday ....and the alternative should be the new softer generation....did we really watch Connie yesterday .

About the fishtank afternoonshows I want to say it may be hard for the girls to put on a show, but it gives good oppurtunity for the girls to reply to a message and also an nice chance to talk with your favorite and see her all the time. This certainly is an upside for some (including me).

fcn2011 in Now on ETV - The current show wrote:at the end i wanna say a few words.

I hope, include me, no one here ever make again a complain against Maryah, Lillian or Athina. These girls work really hard for the money, have to do shifts when the models are ill or have no bock.

Not alot here respect them, including me, but after the Karryshow i wanna say sorry to them because this models do really a good job.

Yes, I can understand your point of view, but this is just what ETV wants:

- Uncensored nudity and actions from a "certain kind of models ...(surely not the best ones)"
- Nothing from some beauties

"hot beauties" disappeared from Molvania?
Mmmhhh...I think not, just watch that they find a lot of "hot beauties" when they want (year 2010).

The reason is another: ETV has probably other plans for the future.
It's all a matter of business:

- "Cold beauties" are cheaper
- "Cold beauties" can receive calls and smss also for a request of "showing their knees". Nobody would make such a request to Angelina...
- ETV knows that almost surely nobody, among the customers, will take a legal action against ETV even if they don't get what they pay for.


It's pure business: nothing for the viewers, everything for their incomes.

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Despite all this I'm grateful to ETV because now I know the meaning of

"Hot", "Soft", "sexy", "teasing", "strip" according to "ETV 2011 Dictionary".

In my old dictionary all this was simply "cold".