Eurotic TV - General Discussion

Tarl_Cabot wrote:some notes:


- Kate, Scarlet, Mashiara and all the models who have a nice set of lovers
aren't Kate, Scarlet and Mashiara mostly in the night shows? and if not I'll use for Scarlet & Mashiara again the university arguement.

- what is the reason for having Lilian, Marayah or Athina in nightshows
I've heard from several sides that Lilian & Marayah are between the models with most callers (please don't ask for the language their callers use ). no idea about the sources or the base of these "facts" but as "some say this so it must be right" is often and gladly used for facts in this forum I'll use it here, too.
everyone who wants an explanation for Athinas night shows this week gets easily an answer when he calls her.

(I'll reply only to those twos as they're answers to my points)

Yes, Kate, Scarlet and Mashiara are mostly in the nightshows, and that was exactly my point - those are models (whether one likes them or not) who receive a lot of messages in their nightshows, from more than one person (not to mention... uh... "fan clubs" and all), and so I have absolutely no reason to complain. Which brings me to the second point.

From a "messages" point of view, Kate, Scarlet and Mashiara are infinitely more, how to say, "profitable" than Lilian, Marayah or Athina, who, again, as everyone can see, receive at most 1 (or 2 if there's some strange astral coincidence) messages during each nightshow. And very much like Kate, Scarlet and Mashiara, models like Michelle (proved), Anna (proved) and probably more like Naomi, Carrie, Connie, Simona, Jessica, Carla (to be proven) would receive a great amount of messages during nightshows as well, at least for their first (let's say 6 or 7, after that it is up to the model to be, look and act sexy and keep viewers attached to her).
(Of course I'm talking about shows in which they do something, not just stand there fully clothed and waggle - a performance like Jessica's or Naomi's during the birthday show is more than OK for the sake of this discussion, not enough in my personal views, but still ok; a show like Carrie's, however beautiful and nice she might be, would absolutely be not OK)

Now, speaking about calls. Well, it is right as you imply that ETV's main point of revenue are calls, but honestly, every time the Italian mod mentions the free models, they always go in circle, so every model will likely be busy at some point in the show, which leads me to believe that, at least in a nightshow, there's actually not much of a difference which model is present.

That's why I'm saying, in short, that in my opinion ETV would be better off, if not permanently at least as a one shot affair, with scheduling at least a "novelty" a week (much like they seemed to have started doing with Anna first and Michelle second), as in both their first shows those two received so many messages that mods couldn't keep up.

Of course, my argument crumbles in pieces if many dayshow models consider ETV like a marriage agency or broken hearts agency...

As a final point, I'd like to back up Vappiano's argument, as a person who has studied and is studying languages and translation, there's no way a true italian viewer would have dictated that message.
Not to mention that Aria, when she speaks in Italian, starts 99,9% of her sentences with "Volevo dire..." ("I wanted to say..."), which, interestingly enough, is the very first part of that message.

HvB wrote:

vappiano68 wrote:

HvB wrote:

vappiano68 wrote:

Joker1305 wrote:And maybe sometimes reason is to have some more popular girls left for the daytime shows to attract enough customers there.

This could be possible.
What I don't like is that kind of cryptic (and at 99,99% fake) vipsmss.

What do they win by faking VIPs?
So why should they do?

It should be you who could gimme this answer.

I'm not claiming that the VIPs are faked, so why should I explain?
You brought this up, so I ask for your arguments.
Either you have some or we are at the usual unfounded conspiracy theories again ...

Ok, I didn't want, but as you ask me...

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- This vipsms contains the same "fox" arguments.
- The italian mod. was the same in these 2 cases.
- "10x" : it was an expression always used by a former ETV model.

Is it enough?
If not...

Another italian message:
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In English:
"I wanted to say to Nicole that she's very nice and she has beautiful legs... and I wanted to see her crossed legs. Antonio"

Pity: there is no italian guy who will ever say "gambe incrociate".
In Italy the translation for "crossed legs" is "gambe accavallate".
You can say "gambe incrociate" only if you translate it from English with a dictionary.

I could believe if I saw: "accavvalate" or acavvallate" (2 tiping errors), but not "incrociate".
So this guy cannot be Italian.
Now I guess: if he's from another country, why should he translate from English to Italian a message for a girl (Nicole) who speaks English but not Italian?

I hope it can be enough.
But I can do more.

I don't want to spread rumors or conspiracy theories.
I just think that these are strange messages.

vappiano68 wrote:What I don't like is that kind of cryptic (and at 99,99% fake) vipsmss.

Hi vappiano,
I have to agree with HvB. Why should ETV create fake SMS which have a negative touch concerning ETV?
With so many girls in one place I can imagine there will be a lot of rivalry behind the scenes, but as I'm not the writer nor do I know more about ETV than what I see on the screen or read here, so actually I'm not sure which way exactly they are meant.
Regards
Joker

vappiano68 wrote:

HvB wrote:

vappiano68 wrote:

Joker1305 wrote:And maybe sometimes reason is to have some more popular girls left for the daytime shows to attract enough customers there.

This could be possible.
What I don't like is that kind of cryptic (and at 99,99% fake) vipsmss.

What do they win by faking VIPs?
So why should they do?

It should be you who could gimme this answer.

I'm not claiming that the VIPs are faked, so why should I explain?
You brought this up, so I ask for your arguments.
Either you have some or we are at the usual unfounded conspiracy theories again ...

some notes:

- I mean: why only for ETV we have strange theories?
without the etv threads we wouldn't need neither Forum Rules nor warnings or the bin. compare the behaviour in the etv threads with the other threads. and this add to the forum rules was made when the former etv forum existed but many were compaining here but not at etv, too. also it's not the only "just for etv" rule and so it should be kept in context.
although aren't the forum rules topic of a discussion.

- Anna has been no more present in a nightshow since then...
that show was Anna's second last show on the screen and so it's too few to build up a theory on only two shows. if her next show is a night show this theory is not even at all hot air. and what I know about Anna and her private life I would build up another theory to explain her shifts.

- Andy
iirc sent this Andy or Andi more than these 2 vips and wasn't it an Andi who asked for Nancy's first striptease? I won't check this but I would expect for 99,99% a person being this Andy who is watching etv since several years and who is often critical and also not happy about the old models hanging around in the night shows. and second comparing the advertisement made on the screen and the words said by the staff I think a vip writen without any mistakes (no idea about the quality of the italian vip) cannot be made by etv. maybe it's a person who's interested in languages and so he writes in different languages.

- Are we sure that the new girls don't want to do nightshows?
Or is the old "Golden Dozen" who has priority of choice and absolutely no will to leave the nightshifts ?
according to some comments made by models like Karry, Jessica or Naomi I'm pretty sure that they aren't interested in night shows.
also looks the etv schedule often like a schedule made the easy way which would mean that the best connections to Randa brings the best shows. so advantage for some old models. further I assume that between the old models are less students than between the newer models (I prefer Scarlet & Mashiara at daytime in the university and not at the night on the screeen) and so the old models fill the night show schedules. the students between the models earn some money for their study while the old models earn THE money for life.
I DON'T wanna say that I'm happy about the schedules of the last month.

- On the other hand a night show is more demanding for the girls and because of much more viewers its more important for ETV, so it will be also in the interest of ETV only to bring girls who have enough experience.
In the end, as in every company, also the Management of ETV will do what they think will bring the best benefit...
yes, some of the new models look like being at the wrong place in the night show.
no, I'm not sure about the words etv + management + think + best being right in one sentence. sometimes it looks like pure luck that we saw a 7th birthday show.

- Kate, Scarlet, Mashiara and all the models who have a nice set of lovers
aren't Kate, Scarlet and Mashiara mostly in the night shows? and if not I'll use for Scarlet & Mashiara again the university arguement.

- what is the reason for having Lilian, Marayah or Athina in nightshows
I've heard from several sides that Lilian & Marayah are between the models with most callers (please don't ask for the language their callers use ). no idea about the sources or the base of these "facts" but as "some say this so it must be right" is often and gladly used for facts in this forum I'll use it here, too.
everyone who wants an explanation for Athinas night shows this week gets easily an answer when he calls her.

- as they exist for more than 7 years I assume they can calculate
reminds me of some phrases in german like "das Glück ist mit den Dummen" or "die dümmsten Bauern ernten die dicksten Kartoffeln" which means that pure luck must be a big part in this calculation.

- to have some more popular girls left for the daytime shows to attract enough customers there
yepp, think the same about this. at daytime models with fanboys are more needed than at night. the fetish & nudity guys feel probably also comfortable with the (in this forum at least) not so popular models.

vappiano68 wrote:

fcn2011 wrote:But at ETV the cutest girls don´t must even show the tits.....

I have no words how this channel can work and earn money with this Managment, Mods and Directors......

They simply follow their own way which is, nowadays, not for people who like to enjoy some nice hours with pretty and sexy girls. Since 2008 they think that "guys who fall in love" with girls bring more money, because they don't pretend to see naked babes.

For guys who like nudity? There's the eternal Golden Dozen .

And for guys, like me, who like nice and sexy babes : a dozen good shows per year, so that they don't lose all the interest.

It's just strategy.
According to me a disastrous one, but a strategy .

There is no strategy like that.
Especially when it comes to the shows, there is no strategy at all.
Just a set of rules. The rest is left to the fantasy of the directors and models.

HvB wrote:

vappiano68 wrote:

Joker1305 wrote:And maybe sometimes reason is to have some more popular girls left for the daytime shows to attract enough customers there.

This could be possible.
What I don't like is that kind of cryptic (and at 99,99% fake) vipsmss.

What do they win by faking VIPs?
So why should they do?

It should be you who could gimme this answer.

fcn2011 wrote:But at ETV the cutest girls don´t must even show the tits.....

I have no words how this channel can work and earn money with this Managment, Mods and Directors......

They simply follow their own way which is, nowadays, not for people who like to enjoy some nice hours with pretty and sexy girls. Since 2008 they think that "guys who fall in love" with girls bring more money, because they don't pretend to see naked babes.

For guys who like nudity? There's the eternal Golden Dozen .

And for guys, like me, who like nice and sexy babes : a dozen good shows per year, so that they don't lose all the interest.

It's just strategy.
According to me a disastrous one, but a strategy .

vappiano68 wrote:

Joker1305 wrote:And maybe sometimes reason is to have some more popular girls left for the daytime shows to attract enough customers there.

This could be possible.
What I don't like is that kind of cryptic (and at 99,99% fake) vipsmss.

What do they win by faking VIPs?
So why should they do?

I have heard what Conny has said to her viewer. And i ask myself this question.
Why does she came back after her long break if she don´t wanna strip or even work in a nightshow?

I mean if i work at McDonald´s or others i can´t say i don´t wanna make burgers. I think we all get fired but at ETV the rules are really different and i have no words why.

In Pornmovies you find the hot and nasty girls from ETV Land or other countries near ETV Land. But at ETV the cutest girls don´t must even show the tits.....

I have no words how this channel can work and earn money with this Managment, Mods and Directors......

Joker1305 wrote:And maybe sometimes reason is to have some more popular girls left for the daytime shows to attract enough customers there.

This could be possible.
What I don't like is that kind of cryptic (and at 99,99% fake) vipsmss.

Chris26 wrote:But then, what is the reason for having Lilian, Marayah or Athina in nightshows instead of models, such as Anna, who would receive, at least in their first 4-5 night shifts, much more messages, thus making ETV earn more?
The three aforementioned girls receive 1 message per show, if they are lucky.
So, even from a business point of view, what is the reason for ETV to stick with them in the nightshows?

Anyway it's just speculation, also from my side, I only wanted to name some other possibilities.
Though these three girls aren't my favourites either I assume their presence must somehow turn out for ETV, as they exist for more than 7 years I assume they can calculate.
And maybe sometimes reason is to have some more popular girls left for the daytime shows to attract enough customers there.

Regards
Joker

Joker1305 wrote:

vappiano68 wrote:...

My questions:
Are we sure that the new girls don't want to do nightshows?
Or is the old "Golden Dozen" who has priority of choice and absolutely no will to leave the nightshifts ?
And probably for a strong woman like Michelle is easier than for some new young girls to win this fact?

Actually I prefer not to believe in conspiracy theories, the only of the ones I know of and which I believe is that JFK wasn't shot by a single person.
The basic question about your theory is, does a girl earn significantly more money in a nightshift? If yes it's very probable the established girls will fight for their position, at least in the background.
On the other hand a night show is more demanding for the girls and because of much more viewers its more important for ETV, so it will be also in the interest of ETV only to bring girls who have enough experience.
In the end, as in every company, also the Management of ETV will do what they think will bring the best benefit, this doesn't always correspond with the normal viewer's opinions.
And with established girls you have a known base of callers and SMS writers, and the one's who are addicted to a certain girl use to spend more money than they maybe wanted.
But every new girl doesn't have this, so it's in the beginning maybe less profitable or at least not that predictable.

Regards
Joker

That might be the case for, say, Kate, Scarlet, Mashiara and all the models who have a nice set of lovers (geez, it must be packed-tight in there!).
But then, what is the reason for having Lilian, Marayah or Athina in nightshows instead of models, such as Anna, who would receive, at least in their first 4-5 night shifts, much more messages, thus making ETV earn more?
The three aforementioned girls receive 1 message per show, if they are lucky.
So, even from a business point of view, what is the reason for ETV to stick with them in the nightshows?

The ranks of the "Golden Dozen" have been thinned considerably, but the remaining members have tripled their efforts.

vappiano68 wrote:...

My questions:
Are we sure that the new girls don't want to do nightshows?
Or is the old "Golden Dozen" who has priority of choice and absolutely no will to leave the nightshifts ?
And probably for a strong woman like Michelle is easier than for some new young girls to win this fact?

Actually I prefer not to believe in conspiracy theories, the only of the ones I know of and which I believe is that JFK wasn't shot by a single person.
The basic question about your theory is, does a girl earn significantly more money in a nightshift? If yes it's very probable the established girls will fight for their position, at least in the background.
On the other hand a night show is more demanding for the girls and because of much more viewers its more important for ETV, so it will be also in the interest of ETV only to bring girls who have enough experience.
In the end, as in every company, also the Management of ETV will do what they think will bring the best benefit, this doesn't always correspond with the normal viewer's opinions.
And with established girls you have a known base of callers and SMS writers, and the one's who are addicted to a certain girl use to spend more money than they maybe wanted.
But every new girl doesn't have this, so it's in the beginning maybe less profitable or at least not that predictable.

Regards
Joker