Eurotic TV - General Discussion

Slowfox wrote:could somebody please shed some light on the following, which came to my mind ?

Am reading tons of complaints these days about the quality and the attitude of etv. About bad shows, about boring shows, you name it. But from whom are these complaints ? As having said this, I fail to identify and to distinguish who are the main complainers. a) the viewers, or b) the viewing customers.

well, a viewing customer, once not satisfied has a right to complain once his righs out of any contractual obligations are not fullfilled, and even then this is not necessarily related to the contents and the quality of the show, be it FTA or Internet.

but, a viewer ? complaining about something he or she gets for free ? I have my serious doubts. It would be the same as complaining about the birthday present of your best buddy for whatever reasons, without any reason, but telling him to better improve next time as otherwise you drop him as best friend. Or even drop him right away, to force him to improve and to bring better presents. Admittedly a bit a childish explanation, but you understand what I mean.

In a nutshell, I believe, that the vast majority of the complainers in here are the viewers, whereby the viewing customers are dealing with ETV direct, rather then getting involved in some fruitless and senseless discussions here in the forum.

slow

A viewer is a potential customer, if the show that he sees it does not satisfy him, he has every right to complain.
However, it seems to me that both categories of customers (potential and actual) are somewhat dissatisfied.
ETV was a sex show, now no one knows what it is. I don't even understand why they continue to put that stupid table after 2300, in these shows nothing happen.

This morning bikin heaven except Jo, obviously.( I thought there was a censoreship problem.)
Why ok at the moment but not any other time.eg so the models could wear short skirts with bikin bottoms underneath.and loose clothing with bikin tops underneath ?
simples

Slowfox wrote:could somebody please shed some light on the following, which came to my mind ?

Am reading tons of complaints these days about the quality and the attitude of etv. About bad shows, about boring shows, you name it. But from whom are these complaints ? As having said this, I fail to identify and to distinguish who are the main complainers. a) the viewers, or b) the viewing customers.

well, a viewing customer, once not satisfied has a right to complain once his righs out of any contractual obligations are not fullfilled, and even then this is not necessarily related to the contents and the quality of the show, be it FTA or Internet.

but, a viewer ? complaining about something he or she gets for free ? I have my serious doubts. It would be the same as complaining about the birthday present of your best buddy for whatever reasons, without any reason, but telling him to better improve next time as otherwise you drop him as best friend. Or even drop him right away, to force him to improve and to bring better presents. Admittedly a bit a childish explanation, but you understand what I mean.

In a nutshell, I believe, that the vast majority of the complainers in here are the viewers, whereby the viewing customers are dealing with ETV direct, rather then getting involved in some fruitless and senseless discussions here in the forum.

slow

From both, and this is a forum for discussion about etv with no attachments to etv, so it really does not matter either way. I am sure those who have paid and not happy will share that with etv themselves.
All the moaning and complaining are possibly from those that know etv have been and should be doing a lot better. And then perhaps myself and others will play along and pay, but at the moment watching models in shorts with absolutely no sexual stimulation whatsoever I will continue to complain.

And I do not for a second blame censoreship, I think it is the models and staff who are building a brick wall, look at Sugar or Suzie always sexy in a short skirt and giving that little glimpse now and then. Why is it they can do it and others do not ?

Slowfox wrote:could somebody please shed some light on the following, which came to my mind ?

Am reading tons of complaints these days about the quality and the attitude of etv. About bad shows, about boring shows, you name it. But from whom are these complaints ? As having said this, I fail to identify and to distinguish who are the main complainers. a) the viewers, or b) the viewing customers.

well, a viewing customer, once not satisfied has a right to complain once his righs out of any contractual obligations are not fullfilled, and even then this is not necessarily related to the contents and the quality of the show, be it FTA or Internet.

but, a viewer ? complaining about something he or she gets for free ? I have my serious doubts. It would be the same as complaining about the birthday present of your best buddy for whatever reasons, without any reason, but telling him to better improve next time as otherwise you drop him as best friend. Or even drop him right away, to force him to improve and to bring better presents. Admittedly a bit a childish explanation, but you understand what I mean.

In a nutshell, I believe, that the vast majority of the complainers in here are the viewers, whereby the viewing customers are dealing with ETV direct, rather then getting involved in some fruitless and senseless discussions here in the forum.

slow

Hello you.
Strange and bizarre reaction? A viewer is a potential customer for sms or phone calls!
@ << Complain about something he or she gets for free? >> What a joke! you pay before you buy??
Say a show is bad is sterile or foolish?? Finding of real or unsatisfied fans who do not want to pay more??
Do not pay a web show poor qualitée is sterile and senseless??
Not be able be expressed ....... there is a definition for it .......
dafr911.

@ wolf... Really, Are a basis for revenues, always certain

@ slow... I don't know.. Maybe you have many reasons, we often appends trends for convenience without actually being share about it... But personally I do not pursue the path of this division ... If we were to keep quiet to everything free or even pay us (see TV programs of public or property of our Jobs... Only 2 little examples...).. I do not think it would be something as desirable and positive ... I think I understand what you mean, but I think it is a minor problem compared to the seriousness and about the current product line of etv .. I myself do not spend more money, simply because I do not see why do it!!!.. But I do not think that I could not complain, because I could spend it, if the product was better ....

@ leahluv.. If you had written the message first, I would have saved time with my sometimes contradictory web translator

Slowfox wrote:could somebody please shed some light on the following, which came to my mind ?

Am reading tons of complaints these days about the quality and the attitude of etv. About bad shows, about boring shows, you name it. But from whom are these complaints ? As having said this, I fail to identify and to distinguish who are the main complainers. a) the viewers, or b) the viewing customers.

well, a viewing customer, once not satisfied has a right to complain once his righs out of any contractual obligations are not fullfilled, and even then this is not necessarily related to the contents and the quality of the show, be it FTA or Internet.

but, a viewer ? complaining about something he or she gets for free ? I have my serious doubts. It would be the same as complaining about the birthday present of your best buddy for whatever reasons, without any reason, but telling him to better improve next time as otherwise you drop him as best friend. Or even drop him right away, to force him to improve and to bring better presents. Admittedly a bit a childish explanation, but you understand what I mean.

In a nutshell, I believe, that the vast majority of the complainers in here are the viewers, whereby the viewing customers are dealing with ETV direct, rather then getting involved in some fruitless and senseless discussions here in the forum.

slow

Well, I think it´s ok to complain sometimes about the things are going on Etv.
This is a forum, meaning to talk with each other about Etv.

I started to look for years,had my favorite model,I called and send messages.
Etv was a part of me.And now it´s getting slip away from me bit by bit.
No thrill,no suprise, no meaning for me .I know it is for free,but it doesn´t mean
I don´t care about it.So if I´m complaining( not daily ) it means, I still watching it and I still
care about Etv/ this forum.So If you don´t hear anything about me anymore,you can be sure:
Etv for me is done, over and out.......

uk334 wrote:I agree taahastiin, without all the quoting, and I myself like teasing and pov camera work. But at the moment there is nothing, absolutely nothing to encourage anyone to spend money on requests etc because they are never met, unless you like feet and balloons.
Look at yesterday aft, wtf was that all about.. eating shoes and the guys ???

ETV should be happy that are so much Fetishguys in the World without them this Channel will be dead already.

could somebody please shed some light on the following, which came to my mind ?

Am reading tons of complaints these days about the quality and the attitude of etv. About bad shows, about boring shows, you name it. But from whom are these complaints ? As having said this, I fail to identify and to distinguish who are the main complainers. a) the viewers, or b) the viewing customers.

well, a viewing customer, once not satisfied has a right to complain once his righs out of any contractual obligations are not fullfilled, and even then this is not necessarily related to the contents and the quality of the show, be it FTA or Internet.

but, a viewer ? complaining about something he or she gets for free ? I have my serious doubts. It would be the same as complaining about the birthday present of your best buddy for whatever reasons, without any reason, but telling him to better improve next time as otherwise you drop him as best friend. Or even drop him right away, to force him to improve and to bring better presents. Admittedly a bit a childish explanation, but you understand what I mean.

In a nutshell, I believe, that the vast majority of the complainers in here are the viewers, whereby the viewing customers are dealing with ETV direct, rather then getting involved in some fruitless and senseless discussions here in the forum.

slow

I agree taahastiin, without all the quoting, and I myself like teasing and pov camera work. But at the moment there is nothing, absolutely nothing to encourage anyone to spend money on requests etc because they are never met, unless you like feet and balloons.
Look at yesterday aft, wtf was that all about.. eating shoes and the guys ???

Without invoking the entire post of Ji_mar, I agree with him ... But deviate for a moment the speech of many sentences read in various threads ... Sometimes someone is scolded for not having a clear idea. it is true that on some occasions the same person, I can be myself, complaining that a model is too bare and the other because no strips! Or because undresses little or too fast! But who, amicably, condemn me or us sometimes does not consider that everyone has their own way of seeing things ... So it must be, and is, thankfully! We leave the study of etv and think about a night of love with a girl ... Already make love has its own variations, but think of the variants of the preliminaries, who loves more than.. And before that, the pleasure of being us to undress her ... Or to admire while she does ... Or do it together.. As well there are those who like to get down to action, who do not want to waste time and find her already naked with her legs apart ... Returning to etv's NS, and to the models, the points of view may legitimately be multiple and sometimes, even if partially against, far from beeing inconsistent or plaintive, as if to give the feeling of never being satisfied ... Respect for those who would like 4-5 hours of models always naked, dancing, touching and more ... Respect for those who would like more sensual strip... Respect for those who love to spend more time to peek through transparencies and see-not see ... Respect for those who just loves the explicit sexuality .... However, it is clear, I say and write respect, but there is real respect in the forum .... (Maybe should ask etv to themself, if they have as much respect not only to the members of the forum...)... But sometimes we think there're only 2 options .. We think there is or naked or dressed ... Black or white ... And we forget all what there is in the middle... And this one, I love, there's in not so many girls, actually... And those few, do not use often these shades to art ... Or, rather, etv does not consider that this art can be used much more in the NS... Have a nice week all

Shirtfull wrote:

Slowfox wrote:Snip

the girls present are just taking turns in the internet, which imho is a very good idea and schedule system as saving in the exhaustive too long extra internet shifts.

slow

The idea is old and was suggested when ETV first started on the web.

whether old or not the approach is still o.k. for me

slow

Slowfox wrote:Snip

the girls present are just taking turns in the internet, which imho is a very good idea and schedule system as saving in the exhaustive too long extra internet shifts.

slow

The idea is old and was suggested when ETV first started on the web.

galahad wrote:Next week you can watch some interesting girls only in the web where i don't think they will ever have a great audience and the usual boredom in the sat channel where instead they should change things. For me it's impossible to understand this strategy.

this is not correct, as the girls doing the web shows are in the regular shifts anyway, with a maximum of 1 hour prior or after the regular shift, meaning the internet schedule is correlative to the TV schedule.

the girls present are just taking turns in the internet, which imho is a very good idea and schedule system as saving in the exhaustive too long extra internet shifts.

slow

Next week you can watch some interesting girls only in the web where i don't think they will ever have a great audience and the usual boredom in the sat channel where instead they should change things. For me it's impossible to understand this strategy.

ETV has lost spectator.
I am that spectator. I was a faithful spectator.
For many years I watched ETV every day. I had many favorite girls.
Because it changed strategy ETV I lost popular girls. Some left, others stayed, but they greatly changed. Now I have only one favorite girl (but she left and she probably never return).
Other girls do not interest me and I do not follow their show. They can not to offer anything new or they maybe not want to. Most girls have become professionals without emotion, which only show their bodies for customers. No sensuality, no romance, no feelings.
Disappeared a erotic from ETV, retain only a nudity, hypocrisy and "dirty game" ETV with their customers.

Goodbye ETV.