Formula 1 General Chat & Discussion

Here are the results of a exciting race of Silverstone :

1. Mark Webber : Red Bull : 1:25:11.288
2. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari : +3.060
3. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull : +4.836
4. Felipe Massa : Ferrari : +9.519
5. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus : +10.314
6. Romain Grosjean : Lotus : +17.101
7. Michael Schumacher : Mercedes : +29.153
8. Lewis Hamilton : McLaren : +36.463
9. Bruno Senna : Williams : +43.347
10. Jenson Button : McLaren : +44.444
11. Kamui Kobayashi : Sauber : +45.370
12. Nico Hülkenberg : Force India : +47.856
13. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso : +51.241
14. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso : +53.313
15. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes : +57.394
16. Pastor Maldonado : Williams : +1 lap
17. Heikki Kovalainen : Caterham : +1 lap
18. Timo Glock : Marussia : +1 lap
19. Charles Pic : Marussia : +1 lap
20. Pedro de la Rosa : HRT : +2 laps
21. Narain Karthikeyan : HRT : +2 laps
Did Not Finish :
22. Sergio Perez : Sauber : +41 laps
23. Paul di Resta : Force India : +50 laps
24. Vitaly Petrov : Caterham : +52 laps

Fastest Lap : Kimi Raikkonen -1:34.661
Pitstop Jenson Button : 2 ( lap 16 - lap 31 )
D.S.L : 15 drivers

finally alonso in pole
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This is not a Sunny Spain! Welcome to the cold and rainy England! Although Fernando
indifferent ! Pleases there are 3 the place of man-rain!

equation wrote:

dazaman wrote:I think its only raining in the UK at Silverstone

In Italy it's called "nuvoletta di Fantozzi", "Fantozzi's cloud"...

In the UK its called a normal day sorry no special words for it here

dazaman wrote:I think its only raining in the UK at Silverstone

In Italy it's called "nuvoletta di Fantozzi", "Fantozzi's cloud"...

And here are the results of a loooooooooooooooong qualifying :

1. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari : 1:51.746 -
2. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing : 1:51.793 + 0.047
3. Michael Schumacher : Mercedes GP : 1:52.020 + 0.274
4. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing : 1:52.199 + 0.453
5. Felipe Massa : Ferrari : 1:53.065 + 1.319
6. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus : 1:53.290 + 1.544
7. Pastor Maldonado : Williams : 1:53.539 + 1.793
8. Lewis Hamilton : McLaren : 1:53.543 + 1.797
9. Nico Hulkenberg : Force India : 1:54.382 + 2.636
10. Romain Grosjean : Lotus : no time set -

Q2
11. Paul di Resta : Force India : 1:57.009 + 5.263
12. Kamui Kobayashi : Sauber : 1:57.071 + 5.325
13. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP : 1:57.108 + 5.362
14. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso : 1:57.132 + 5.386
15. Bruno Senna : Williams : 1:57.426 + 5.680
16. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso : 1:57.719 + 5.973
17. Sergio Perez : Sauber : 1:57.895 + 6.149

Q1
18. Jenson Button : McLaren : 1:48.044 -
19. Vitaly Petrov : Caterham : 1:49.027 + -2.719
20. Heikki Kovalainen : Caterham : 1:49.477 + -2.269
21. Timo Glock : Marussia F1 Team : 1:51.618 + -0.128
22. Pedro de la Rosa : HRT F1 Team : 1:52.742 + 0.996
23. Narain Karthikeyan : HRT F1 Team : 1:53.040 + 1.294
24. Charles Pic : Marussia F1 Team : 1:54.143 + 2.397

Rain : yes


Comment of the qualifying :
Fernando Alonso claimed his and Ferrari's first pole position since the 2010 Singapore Grand Prix as he came out on top of a tight battle with Red Bull's Mark Webber in a drying and delayed British GP qualifying session at Silverstone. The session was interrupted for over an hour and a half when the level of standing water became impossible to handle. By the time it resumed, conditions were much improved, and although full wets were still the best choice for the remaining six minutes of Q2, intermediates were the way to go in the pole shoot-out. Webber looked to be in good shape as he put himself 0.8 seconds clear of the pack with a 1m51.793s in the closing minutes, only for Alonso to pip it by 0.047s. Webber's reply was not quite quick enough and he had to be content with the outside of the front row.
Germany's two Formula 1 world champions will share row two. Michael Schumacher produced one of his best qualifying efforts for Mercedes as he secured third ahead of the second Red Bull of Sebastian Vettel.
Ferrari got both its cars in the top five, as Felipe Massa qualified fifth.
Kimi Raikkonen's Lotus starts alongside the Brazilian, with Catalunya winner Pastor Maldonado next up for Williams. The leading British driver was only eighth, Lewis Hamilton qualifying his McLaren on row four. Nico Hulkenberg was ninth quickest but will lose five places due to a gearbox change on his Force India.
Romain Grosjean qualified for Q3 only to the spin into the gravel at Vale at the end of Q2. With his Lotus beached, he had to sit out Q3 and settle for 10th.
Inevitably there were some midfield upsets in the rain. Nico Rosberg (Mercedes) was third at the red flag but tumbled to 13th after the restart while Sauber's Sergio Perez dropped further still. Fastest before the stoppage, his choice of intermediates proved too ambitious and he tumbled to 17th.
The headline story from Q1 was yet another Silverstone disappointment for Jenson Button. The McLaren driver could do no better than 18th, his final lap hamstrung by more rain arriving in the final sector plus yellow flags for Timo Glock's spun Marussia on the exit of Club.
Hamilton was the only home driver in the top 10, Paul di Resta (Force India) being edged out of a Q3 place by Alonso in the closing moments, leaving the Scot 11th.


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Shaky-Schumi

Weldone Alonso and ...Weldone Schumi ( whoehoe again made it om the podium ....let's hope that this continue also for tomorrow )

I think its only raining in the UK at Silverstone

Here are the times of the 3rd practice session :

1. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari : 1:32.167 -
2. Jenson Button : McLaren : 1:32.320 + 0.153
3. Romain Grosjean : Lotus : 1:32.358 + 0.191
4. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing : 1:32.420 + 0.253
5. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus : 1:32.454 + 0.287
6. Lewis Hamilton : McLaren : 1:32.477 + 0.310
7. Pastor Maldonado : Williams : 1:32.622 + 0.455
8. Sergio Perez : Sauber : 1:32.940 + 0.773
9. Kamui Kobayashi : Sauber : 1:33.046 + 0.879
10. Nico Hulkenberg : Force India : 1:33.150 + 0.983
11. Bruno Senna : Williams : 1:33.267 + 1.100
12. Paul di Resta : Force India : 1:33.367 + 1.200
13. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing : 1:33.398 + 1.231
14. Michael Schumacher : Mercedes GP : 1:33.462 + 1.295
15. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso : 1:33.673 + 1.506
16. Felipe Massa : Ferrari : 1:33.674 + 1.507
17. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso : 1:33.707 + 1.540
18. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP : 1:33.733 + 1.566
19. Heikki Kovalainen : Caterham : 1:34.298 + 2.131
20. Vitaly Petrov : Caterham : 1:34.781 + 2.614
21. Timo Glock : Marussia F1 Team : 1:36.605 + 4.438
22. Charles Pic : Marussia F1 Team : 1:37.060 + 4.893
23. Narain Karthikeyan : HRT F1 Team : 1:37.269 + 5.102
24. Pedro de la Rosa : HRT F1 Team : 1:37.429 + 5.262

Comment of the 3rd session :
Fernando Alonso led the way for Ferrari in a dry final practice session ahead of British Grand Prix qualifying at Silverstone. Jenson Button was the quickest McLaren driver in second, 0.153 seconds down on Alonso, with Romain Grosjean third for Lotus, and Sebastian Vettel (Red Bull), Kimi Raikkonen (Lotus) and Lewis Hamilton (McLaren) completing the top six. With no dry running at all on Friday and dark clouds closing in, there was immediately a pitlane traffic queue to emulate the ones outside the circuit, with all teams eager to make the most of the conditions. A sign of how much work was being crammed into the hour was that soft tyres runs began just after the mid-point, with Button the first to hit the front on softs, deposing team-mate Hamilton. The McLarens swapped places again soon afterwards, as Hamilton took his turn on softs and produced a 1m32.728s to beat Button by 0.123s. Grosjean then hinted at impressive pace from Lotus by beating the McLarens by three tenths on hard tyres, but his time in front was only fleeting as Alonso then delivered a 1m32.167s to head the order. The championship leader had a quick spin at Club on his next lap, continuing without drama and remaining at head of the times until the finish.
Button eventually reclaimed second, just ahead of Grosjean, who improved again on softs. The second Lotus of Raikkonen was fifth, between Vettel and Hamilton. Pastor Maldonado was seventh for Williams, with Sergio Perez eighth despite smashing his Sauber's front wing as he bounced over the grass. Team-mate Kamui Kobayashi also had a spin before taking ninth, ahead of Nico Hulkenberg's Force India.
Mercedes' Nico Rosberg had been the initial pacesetter, but had to sit out the latter part of the session with a mechanical problem, so fell to 18th. Also in mechanical bother was Marussia's Charles Pic. The Frenchman caused a brief red flag when his car ground to a halt on the exit of Copse just after the 20-minute mark. Marussia got it running again, but a similar thing seemed to happen in the closing minutes, leaving Pic stranded on the Hangar Straight.

This afternoon at 14.00u CET will the qualification !!!

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

07/07/1959 happy birthday to alessandro nannini former italian driver
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And the times of the 2nd practice session are as followed :

1. Lewis Hamilton : McLaren : 1:56.345 -laps 8
2. Kamui Kobayashi : Sauber : 1:56.474 + 0.129 laps 16
3. Michael Schumacher : Mercedes GP : 1:56.545 + 0.200 laps 12
4. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP : 1:56.567 + 0.222 laps 9
5. Sergio Perez : Sauber : 1:57.493 + 1.148 laps 13
6. Jenson Button : McLaren : 1:57.948 + 1.603 laps 9
7. Heikki Kovalainen : Caterham : 1:58.580 + 2.235 laps 10
8. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus : 1:58.897 + 2.552 laps 8
9. Nico Hulkenberg : Force India : 1:58.943 + 2.598 laps 12
10. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari : 1:59.015 + 2.670 laps 14
11. Paul di Resta : Force India : 1:59.429 + 3.084 laps 9
12. Pastor Maldonado : Williams : 1:59.472 + 3.127 laps 6
13. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing : 1:59.476 + 3.131 laps 10
14. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso : 1:59.854 + 3.509 laps 7
15. Felipe Massa : Ferrari : 2:00.565 + 4.220 laps 7
16. Timo Glock : Marussia F1 Team : 2:00.820 + 4.475 laps 11
17. Bruno Senna : Williams : 2:01.099 + 4.754 laps 6
18. Vitaly Petrov : Caterham : 2:01.348 + 5.003 laps 12
19. Charles Pic : Marussia F1 Team : 2:03.719 + 7.374 laps 8
20. Narain Karthikeyan : HRT F1 Team : 2:04.774 + 8.429 laps 8
21. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing : no time set - laps 1
22. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso : no time set - laps 2
23. Romain Grosjean : Lotus : no time set - laps 1
24. Pedro de la Rosa : HRT F1 Team : no time set - laps 0

Comment of the 2nd session :
Lewis Hamilton led the way in front of his home fans as the Silverstone weather got even worse in Friday afternoon practice for the British Grand Prix. Te combination of a sodden track and the limited number of wet and intermediate tyres permitted by the regulations meant it was only when the rain eased off in the second half of the session that drivers began work in earnest. There was then a further delay when Bruno Senna aquaplaned into the barriers on the way out of the Becketts complex. The heavily-damaged Williams caused a 10-minute red flag period. Senna stepped out unhurt. Sauber's Kamui Kobayashi was the initial pacesetter, as the Japanese driver showed the same flair that he had in the morning. But his 1m56.474s was then pipped by a 1m56.345s from McLaren driver Hamilton. That was how the lead order stayed, with Michael Schumacher and Nico Rosberg moving into third and fourth for Mercedes, and Sergio Perez putting the second Sauber fifth. The Mexican subsequently had a big spin coming out of Woodcote.
Fernando Alonso also had a late incident in the Ferrari while trying intermediate tyres, smashing the car's new-spec front wing off on the barriers as he spun across the grass. Although times were relatively meaningless in the conditions, Heikki Kovalainen's seventh place to Caterham was certainly noteworthy. The Finn was yet another man to go off the road, although his incident was limited to a messy trip through a big puddle in the grass.


Tomorrow ( saturday ) at 11.00u CET - 12.00u CET will br the 3rd practice session ,followed at 14.00u CET the qualification !

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

Here are the times of the 1st practice session that is bin driven at the Silverstone circuit :

1. Romain Grosjean : Lotus : 1:56.552 - laps 13
2. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso : 1:56.827 + 0.275 laps 10
3. Lewis Hamilton : McLaren : 1:57.174 + 0.622 laps 6
4. Sergio Perez : Sauber : 1:57.664 + 1.112 laps 11
5. Felipe Massa : Ferrari : 1:58.119 + 1.567 laps 7
6. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing : 1:58.463 + 1.911 laps 7
7. Kamui Kobayashi : Sauber : 1:58.483 + 1.931 laps 19
8. Michael Schumacher : Mercedes GP : 1:58.493 + 1.941 laps 10
9. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP : 1:58.942 + 2.390 laps 8
10. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso : 1:59.076 + 2.524 laps 8
11. Sebastian Vette :l Red Bull Racing : 1:59.414 + 2.862 laps 11
12. Vitaly Petrov : Caterham : 1:59.614 + 3.062 laps 9
13. Valtteri Bottas : Williams : 1:59.733 + 3.181 laps 7
14. Heikki Kovalainen : Caterham : 1:59.787 + 3.235 laps 10
15. Pastor Maldonado : Williams : 2:00.125 + 3.573 laps 5
16. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus : 2:00.253 + 3.701 laps 6
17. Jenson Button : McLaren : 2:01.834 + 5.282 laps 6
18. Timo Glock : Marussia F1 Team : 2:01.835 + 5.283 laps 6
19. Pedro de la Rosa : HRT F1 Team : 2:04.341 + 7.789 laps 9
20. Dani Clos : HRT F1 Team : 2:05.022 + 8.470 laps 11
21. Charles Pic : Marussia F1 Team : 2:11.760 + 15.208 laps 6
22. Jules Bianchi : Force India : no time set - laps 1
23. Paul di Resta : Force India : no time set - laps 3
24. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari : no time set - laps 4

Comment of 1st session :
Romain Grosjean was quickest as heavy rain hit the opening practice session for the British Grand Prix at Silverstone. Conditions were wet from the outset, and steadily worsened. That meant that the 1m56.552s lap that Lotus driver Grosjean produced after 37 minutes proved to be the fastest anyone could manage all morning. Demonstrating how tricky the track was, Grosjean took to the grass at Becketts just after setting his benchmark time. Daniel Ricciardo was among the initial pacesetters and remained second for Toro Rosso, 0.275 seconds behind Grosjean. Lewis Hamilton led the home contingent for McLaren in third, followed by Sergio Perez's Sauber, Felipe Massa's Ferrari, and Red Bull driver Mark Webber, who also took several turns on top early on. Although Kamui Kobayashi was only seventh in the times, he was among the most spectacular to watch on the wet track, managing to keep his Sauber on the road most of the time despite some slides. Team-mate Perez was one of several to have a harmless spin - although his incident could have collected Grosjean. Marussia's Timo Glock and HRT test driver Dani Clos also looped their cars, but despite the conditions, everyone managed to avoid the barriers.
Unusually for a wet session, the majority of the field came out for some concerted running. Only the Force Indias and Ferrari's Fernando Alonso decided against flying laps


Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

British Grand Prix – 63° edition – Silverstone
On this circuit the history of Formula One began in 1950, and here Ferrari won in 1951 his first F1 Grand Prix. The Silverstone circuit has changed a lot over the years, mostly in a few zones. In 1991 it was considered too fast and the organizers decided to add some chicanes. Other important upgrades were realized two years ago. In that occasion the old circuit was lengthened by more than seven hundred meters. In my opinion the most interesting part of the track is that which leads from Copse, one of the fastest corners, into Stowe, a uphill right hander, through Maggots - Becketts - Chapel complex (3 curves very fast: left, right, left, right, left). It is important to keep car on the limit all the time in this combination to have a good speed for the exit on to Hangar Straight. At the end there is another fast corner, called Stowe. For me this part of track is the real soul of Silverstone. The new section begins after the Club corner (here there are the new pit and paddock complex) and leads into Woodcote corner. From 2011 the track has a new start-finish straight, so the first corner is now Abbey. If you look at the track layout, all will be clear. Unfortunately, the cutting of engine power in recent years has reduced the challenge of the this track, but Silverstone remains one of the fastest circuits on the calendar. In the past also Brands Hatch(12 times) and Aintree(5 times) hosted the British GP. This week Pirelli tyres will be Soft (option, yellow) and Hard(prime, silver). The same pairing used in Barcelona. To understand the importance of tires just one example: the last one Valencia GP. Schumacher lap n.18 before his first pit stop (time 1.48.877) with badly worn tyres(Medium). Always MSC: lap n. 43 after his second pit stop (time 1.43.099) with fresh tyres(Soft). Obviously the quantity of fuel in the tank was different, but the gap on the lap time(5.778 seconds) is too big. In this way strategy and tyres are decisive to win or lose the race. DRS: only one zone; after turn 4 (The Loop), so the cars will take turn 5 (Aintree Corner) with the rear wing in the open position and then will continue down the Wellington Straight.
Podium 2010: Webber – Hamilton – Rosberg – fastest lap on race: Alonso – pole position : Vettel 1'29''615
Podium 2011: Alonso – Vettel – Webber – fastest lap on race: Alonso – pole position : Webber 1'30'399
Silvestone GP:victories for current pilots:Schumacher(3) Alonso(2), Vettel Hamilton Raikkonen and Webber(1).
Quite strange: Button(12 attemps) and never on podium, never pole position and never fastest lap.
Silvestone GP: pole position for current pilots: Vettel and Alonso (2), Schumacher, Raikkonen, Hamilton, Webber and Kovalainen (1)
Silvestone GP: fastest lap for current pilots: Alonso, Schumacher and Raikkonen(3) Vettel, (1).
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