Formula 1 General Chat & Discussion
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One more step to championship Fernando Alonso! For him only do Vettel Hamilton Webber and Button!
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Newsflash :
Michael Schumacher will get a 10 place grid penalty at the GP of Japan ![]() Regards Shaky-Schumi |
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2012 FORMULA 1 JAPANESE GRAND PRIX
[Versteckter Link - Registrierung notwendig] Fri 05 October 2012 Practice 1 03:00 - 04:30 Practice 2 07:00 - 08:30 Sat 06 October 2012 Practice 3 04:00 - 05:00 Qualifying 07:00 Sun 07 October 2012 Race 08:00 |
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constructors standing after singapore gp
1 Red Bull Racing-Renault 298 2 McLaren-Mercedes 261 3 Ferrari 245 4 Lotus-Renault 231 5 Mercedes 136 6 Sauber-Ferrari 100 7 Force India-Mercedes 75 8 Williams-Renault 54 9 STR-Ferrari 14 10 Marussia-Cosworth 0 11 Caterham-Renault 0 12 HRT-Cosworth 0 |
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Post: #1161 Zuletzt bearbeitet: 23.09.2012, 18:19 23.09.2012, 18:16 Re: Formula 1 General Chat & Discussion
The result of the Singapore F1 race :
1. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing : 2. Jenson Button : McLaren : + 8.959 59 3. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari : + 15.227 59 4. Paul di Resta : Force India : + 19.063 59 5. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP : + 34.759 59 6. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus : + 35.700 59 7. Romain Grosjean : Lotus : + 36.600 59 8. Felipe Massa : Ferrari : + 42.800 59 9. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso : + 45.800 59 10. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing : + 47.100 59 11. Sergio Perez : Sauber : + 50.600 59 12. Timo Glock : Marussia F1 Team : + 1 lap 13. Kamui Kobayashi : Sauber : + 1 lap 14. Nico Hulkenberg : Force India : 1:51.033 + 1 lap 15. Heikki Kovalainen : Caterham : + 1 lap 16. Charles Pic : Marussia F1 Team : + 1 lap 17. Pedro de la Rosa : HRT F1 Team : + 1 lap Did Not Finish : 18. Bruno Senna : Williams : 19. Vitaly Petrov : Caterham 20. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso 21. Michael Schumacher : Mercedes GP 22. Pastor Maldonado : Williams 23. Narain Karthikeyan : HRT F1 Team 24. Lewis Hamilton : McLaren Fastest lap : Nico Hulkenberg Pitstop Senna : DNF D.S.L : 11 Comment of the Race : Sebastian Vettel finally scored the second victory of his latest Formula 1 title defence in the Singapore Grand Prix. The Red Bull driver benefited from Lewis Hamilton's McLaren suffering a gearbox failure while holding a narrow lead. Jenson Button claimed second in the other McLaren, with Fernando Alonso's third place maintaining the Ferrari driver's world championship cushion. Front-row starter Pastor Maldonado had to retire with hydraulic failure having battled with Alonso for the final podium spot. Hamilton and Vettel ran in close company prior to the McLaren's problem, although the Briton seemed under control. Third-placed Button fell away at first, before regaining some ground as he got better tyre longevity than those ahead. Vettel made his first pitstop two laps earlier than Hamilton, and though this initially looked costly as he dropped into time-consuming traffic, once he was in clear air his pace on fresh rubber was sufficient to make up all the time lost and keep him between the McLarens. That position became the race lead on lap 22, when Hamilton's car ground to a halt with a gearbox failure. Button then kept Vettel honest to the finish, without it ever looking like the Red Bull's lead was in jeopardy. By the end, Vettel had edged away into a very secure lead. Vettel stayed cool through two mid-race safety car periods: the first for Narain Karthikeyan sliding his HRT into the barrels at the tunnel entrance, and the second when Michael Schumacher ploughed into Jean-Eric Vergne on the restart lap. Those cautions resolved the third-place battle. When Maldonado, who had fallen from second to fourth at the start, pitted for a second time under the first safety car, he rejoined 10th while Alonso stayed out and moved up to third. That decision probably secured the place for Ferrari even before Williams ordered Maldonado to retire with a hydraulic problem before the green. Paul di Resta kept the frontrunners in sight throughout to score an excellent fourth for Force India, outpacing fifth-placed Mercedes man Nico Rosberg. Lotus salvaged sixth and seventh with Kimi Raikkonen and Romain Grosjean on its least competitive weekend of 2012 so far. Ferrari's Felipe Massa picked up a puncture on lap one, yet fought back impressively to secure eighth. On the way, he overtook Bruno Senna with an incredible move that saw him bounce off the Williams and the wall before arriving at Turn 13 sideways but in front. The safety car timing hurt Mark Webber's strategy, and the best he could manage was to battle through to 10th, right on Daniel Ricciardo's tail. Among other incidents, Nico Hulkenberg clashed with both Saubers on consecutive laps late on, with Sergio Perez the only one involved to get away without having to pit for repairs. Also notable was Timo Glock's 12th place, which moved Marussia ahead of Caterham in the constructors' standings. Kind Regards Shaky-Schumi |
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drivers standings after singapore gp
1 Fernando Alonso Spanish Ferrari 194 2 Sebastian Vettel German Red Bull Racing-Renault 165 3 Kimi Räikkönen Finnish Lotus-Renault 149 4 Lewis Hamilton British McLaren-Mercedes 142 5 Mark Webber Australian Red Bull Racing-Renault 133 6 Jenson Button British McLaren-Mercedes 119 7 Nico Rosberg German Mercedes 93 8 Romain Grosjean French Lotus-Renault 82 9 Sergio Perez Mexican Sauber-Ferrari 65 10 Felipe Massa Brazilian Ferrari 51 11 Paul di Resta British Force India-Mercedes 44 12 Michael Schumacher German Mercedes 43 13 Kamui Kobayashi Japanese Sauber-Ferrari 35 14 Nico Hulkenberg German Force India-Mercedes 31 15 Pastor Maldonado Venezuelan Williams-Renault 29 16 Bruno Senna Brazilian Williams-Renault 25 17 Jean-Eric Vergne French STR-Ferrari 8 18 Daniel Ricciardo Australian STR-Ferrari 6 19 Timo Glock German Marussia-Cosworth 0 20 Heikki Kovalainen Finnish Caterham-Renault 0 21 Vitaly Petrov Russian Caterham-Renault 0 22 Jerome D'Ambrosio Belgian Lotus-Renault 0 23 Charles Pic French Marussia-Cosworth 0 24 Narain Karthikeyan Indian HRT-Cosworth 0 25 Pedro de la Rosa Spanish HRT-Cosworth 0 |
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singapore gp results
1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 59 2:00:26.144 3 25 2 3 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 59 +8.9 secs 4 18 3 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 59 +15.2 secs 5 15 4 11 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 59 +19.0 secs 6 12 5 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 59 +34.7 secs 10 10 6 9 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault 59 +35.7 secs 12 8 7 10 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 59 +36.6 secs 8 6 8 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 59 +42.8 secs 13 4 9 16 Daniel Ricciardo STR-Ferrari 59 +45.8 secs 15 2 10 2 Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault 59 +47.1 secs 7 1 11 15 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 59 +50.6 secs 14 12 24 Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 59 +91.9 secs 20 13 14 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 59 +97.1 secs 17 14 12 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 59 +99.4 secs 11 15 20 Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 59 +107.9 secs 19 16 25 Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 59 +132.9 secs 21 17 22 Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 58 +1 Lap 24 18 19 Bruno Senna Williams-Renault 57 +2 Lap 22 19 21 Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 57 +2 Lap 18 Ret 17 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Ferrari 38 Accident 16 Ret 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 38 Accident 9 Ret 18 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 36 Hydraulics 2 Ret 23 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 30 Accident 23 Ret 4 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 22 Gearbox 1 Note - De la Rosa and Senna dropped five grid spots for unscheduled gearbox changes. Pic had 20s added to his race time for passing under red flags in FP3. |
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Robert Doornbos 23rd September 1981
(Former driver of Minardi & Red Bull) [Versteckter Link - Registrierung notwendig] Happy Birthday to your 31st anniversary ![]() |
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One word - the Asian Monaco! The beginning of boring and uninteresting! 23 round - the problem with the box of the Lewis Hamilton! It is insulting to go from the road when you лидируешь! Again it was not without a safety car! Pastor Maldonado - technical problems! Schumacher - gathering!
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What were they thinking
- Hamilton, while the gears did not respond to his commands - Schumi, when he found himself in the ass of Vergne - Button, when it was in danger of ending up in the ass of Vettel, under safety-car - Alonso...Fernando, Domenicali, now ... what will you do????what are you thinking???? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Newsflash :
Bruno Senna will have a 5 place penalty grid !!!! Due to its collision with the wall during qualifying got the gearbox of Bruno Senna heavily damaged .Thereon it had to be replaced by the team for the race today.Senna qualified on the seventeenth place, but must now start from the 22th place. Singapore has a new contract signed with Bernie Eccelstone , the race wil stay on the calendar til 2018 . Kind Regards Shaky-Schumi |
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Pastor Maldonado-the hero of the qualifying! Who will win - say hard!! Given that overtaking difficult here! And every time is not complete without the pace car !
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If you are superstitious, and Alonso-fans, do not read any further .... You've been warned!!!
![]() ![]() ![]() There is little to be confident in Alonso for tomorrow race, seeing the gaps in the qualifying. yet I feel that tomorrow will arrive on the podium, and not third ... This is simply because Alonso has the right mix between speed and cleanliness in the guide, and this, in a very complicated circuit, can be decisive.. Could be more with the entrance of the safety car, probable event for the few escape routes.. which could also modify the strategies of pit-stops, because the maximum speed in the pit lane here is only 60 km/h and not the usual 80; and so each stop requires about 30 seconds Considering everything, I took the calculator, that it told me ... Alonso 1st or 2nd...probably because I feed my calculators with batteries and ferrari ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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The result of the qualifying are :
1. Lewis Hamilton : McLaren : 1:46.362 - 2. Pastor Maldonado : Williams : 1:46.804 + 0.442 3. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing : 1:46.905 + 0.543 4. Jenson Button : McLaren : 1:46.939 + 0.577 5. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari : 1:47.216 + 0.854 6. Paul di Resta : Force India : 1:47.241 + 0.879 7. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing : 1:47.475 + 1.113 8. Romain Grosjean : Lotus : 1:47.788 + 1.426 9. Michael Schumacher : Mercedes GP : no time set - 10. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP : no time set - Q2 11. Nico Hulkenberg : Force India : 1:47.975 + 1.613 12. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus : 1:48.261 + 1.899 13. Felipe Massa : Ferrari : 1:48.344 + 1.982 14. Sergio Perez : Sauber : 1:48.505 + 2.143 15. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso : 1:48.774 + 2.412 16. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso : 1:48.849 + 2.487 17. Bruno Senna : Williams : no time - Q1 18. Kamui Kobayashi : Sauber : 1:49.933 - 19. Vitaly Petrov : Caterham : 1:50.846 + 4.484 20. Heikki Kovalainen : Caterham : 1:51.137 + 4.775 21. Timo Glock : Marussia F1 Team : 1:51.370 + 5.008 22. Charles Pic : Marussia F1 Team : 1:51.762 + 5.400 23. Narain Karthikeyan : HRT F1 Team : 1:52.372 + 6.010 24. Pedro de la Rosa : HRT F1 Team : 1:53.355 + 6.993 Rain : no Comment of the qualifying : Lewis Hamilton secured pole position for the Singapore Grand Prix with a brilliant lap of 1m46.362s, ahead of Williams driver Pastor Maldonado. It was the 24th pole of the McLaren driver's Formula 1 career, and the third in four races, as he put down the rising challenge of Sebastian Vettel and Red Bull, who had set the pace throughout the weekend until qualifying. It wasn't all plain sailing for the Briton, who brushed the wall on his quick lap - though apparently without damage. But it won't be the world champion Vettel that starts the grand prix at Marina Bay on the front row, as perhaps was expected, but Spanish Grand Prix winner Maldonado, who delivered a stunning (and surprising) lap to go second fastest ahead of Vettel. Jenson Button was fourth fastest ahead of points' leader Fernando Alonso and Paul di Resta in the rapid Force India. Mark Webber was seventh fastest for the moment, but that may change as the Australian is under investigation for allegedly impeding Timo Glock during Q1.Romain Grosjean, with what might have constituted the scruffiest lap of the season, was eighth fastest ahead of the two Mercedes of Michael Schumacher and Nico Rosberg, who both declined to set a laptime in Q3. Grosjean, having set the fastest time of all in Q1, also tapped the wall with the rear of the car at Turn 14 at the beginning of Q2. The Lotus driver bounced back from his shunt though to go fourth fastest in Q2, behind Hamilton, Vettel and Webber. He wasn't the only one in the wall in that session. Bruno Senna hit the retainers at the penultimate corner, the same place he'd brushed in Q1, but this time he damaged his suspension and, unlike the Frenchman, would take no further part. It was the third time the Brazilian had been in the barrier over the weekend - and he starts Sunday's race 17th. Joining Senna on the Q2 fail list, but obviously starting ahead of him, were Nico Hulkenberg, Kimi Raikkonen, Felipe Massa, Sergio Perez, Daniel Ricciardo and Jean-Eric Vergne. Hulkenberg, Raikkonen and Massa in particular might have expected to progress further, but late laps from the Mercedes duo put paid to their hopes. With speculation surrounding Vitaly Petrov's future at Caterham, he put in a tremendous effort in Q1. For most of it he looked like he might outqualify Toro Rosso's Vergne and Sauber's Kamui Kobayashi on merit to move into the second session. But both of those drivers would eventually move ahead of the Russian, who lines up 20th for the race ahead of his team-mate Heikki Kovalainen, as the Toro Rossos injected some super-soft pace at the crucial moment (Ricciardo was seventh fastest overall in Q1!). Kobayashi however was the star scalp dropped early as he was already in the pits when the Toro Rossos fired up the afterburners. The Japanese, let us not forget, was on the front row at Spa. Also worth mentioning was the fact that Narain Karthikeyan outqualified HRT team-mate Pedro de la Rosa for the second time in a row, and by nearly a second, as the pair occupied the last row of the grid. Kind Regards Shaky-Schumi |
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Here are the times of the 3rd practice session that just ended under Red Flag ! :
1. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing : 1:47.947 - 2. Lewis Hamilton : McLaren : 1:48.272 + 0.325 3. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari : 1:48.623 + 0.676 4. Nico Hulkenberg : Force India : 1:48.859 + 0.912 5. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus : 1:48.865 + 0.918 6. Felipe Massa : Ferrari : 1:49.458 + 1.511 7. Paul di Resta : Force India : 1:49.684 + 1.737 8. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP : 1:49.699 + 1.752 9. Bruno Senna : Williams : 1:49.715 + 1.768 10. Michael Schumacher : Mercedes GP : 1:49.981 + 2.034 11. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing : 1:50.110 + 2.163 12. Jenson Button : McLaren : 1:50.524 + 2.577 13. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso : 1:50.664 + 2.717 14. Kamui Kobayashi : Sauber : 1:50.777 + 2.830 15. Romain Grosjean : Lotus : 1:50.840 + 2.893 16. Pastor Maldonado : Williams : 1:51.012 + 3.065 17. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso : 1:51.059 + 3.112 18. Sergio Perez : Sauber : 1:51.272 + 3.325 19. Charles Pic : Marussia F1 Team : 1:52.290 + 4.343 20. Vitaly Petrov : Caterham : 1:53.781 + 5.834 21. Heikki Kovalainen : Caterham : 1:54.326 + 6.379 22. Narain Karthikeyan : HRT F1 Team : 1:54.421 + 6.474 23. Timo Glock : Marussia F1 Team : 1:54.630 + 6.683 24. Pedro de la Rosa : HRT F1 Team : 1:54.875 + 6.928 Comment of the 3rd session : Sebastian Vettel maintained his advantage over the field in Singapore, setting the fastest time again in an eventful final free practice session on the Marina Bay circuit. The German, who was quickest in both Friday sessions - having won from pole here last year – ended the hour more than three tenths faster than Lewis Hamilton's McLaren. Fernando Alonso was third fastest ahead of the continually impressive Nico Hulkenberg. Kimi Raikkonen and Felipe Massa were next up. Paul di Resta was seventh in the second Force India ahead of Nico Rosberg, Bruno Senna and Michael Schumacher. Initially it was the McLarens that had the pace in the 60-minute session, while the teams were still using prime tyres with first Hamilton, and then Button setting an early pace in the low 1m50s. Then halfway through the session, with Red Bull's Webber having given a hint of the RB8's pace by splitting the two McLarens, Vettel went out and was seven tenths up on Hamilton when he was forced to back off for the yellows in sector three. Those yellows were out for Timo Glock's stricken Marussia, the German having stamped on the brakes and dipped the clutch after his throttle stuck open. The obstacle cleared, Vettel got straight back on it and became the first man to dip below the 1m50s barrier with a 1m49.614s. Alonso, having up to this point completed merely an install lap, then went second quickest joining Vettel in the 49s. Two thirds of the way through and Senna became the first man to try the supersofts, his flying lap putting him momentarily second on the board. With just over ten minutes to go, teams then began thinking about their qualifying session simulation fliers, and it was just then that Webber replicated Sergio Perez's earlier error and clouted the Armco under the tunnel at the entry left-hander. Both the Sauber - which spent most of the session in the pits - and the Red Bull needed attention as Webber also picked up a puncture. With the last of the final yellow flags gone, Vettel emerged from the pits, having previously scattered photographers on the pitlane entry and seemingly suffering some KERS issues. This time the German pulled out a stunning time of 1m47.947s, and that was that. No one got near it. Hamilton was closest, 0.325s behind the world champion. But if anyone else had thoughts of a crack at Vettel's time, Vitaly Petrov denied them all by smacking the outside barrier at the penultimate corner in his Caterham, bringing out the red flags. Kind Regards Shaky-Schumi |
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